Bigfoot silva has better wins than Fedor

Fedor has the biggest concentration of nuthuggers you will have encounter in your lifetime. No point arguing with them. Plenty of people have better wins than Fedor.

Lyoto Machida

Fabricio Werdum

Overeem

José Aldo

GSP

Anderson Silva

Vitor Belfort

Jon Jones

Daniel Cormier

And the list could go on and on and on. Fedor is far from being the GOAT.
 
fedor is a great fighter, but no way he is goat. Not one mma fighter can be consider goat yet in my opinion. Gsp is the closet and jon has the potential but still no goat. fedor is not even on the level of aldo or anderson
 
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Scyther said:
Prime Tim and Arlovski? It could be argued both were better at different times.
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Yeah I might have jumped the gun a bit on that. Perhaps they weren't in their absolute primes but they weren't over the hill either.
 
KrowX said:
Fedor has the biggest concentration of nuthuggers you will have encounter in your lifetime. No point arguing with them. Plenty of people have better wins than Fedor.

Lyoto Machida

Fabricio Werdum

Overeem

José Aldo

GSP

Anderson Silva

Vitor Belfort

Jon Jones

Daniel Cormier

And the list could go on and on and on. Fedor is far from being the GOAT.
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woops. accidental reply. mods delete please
 
Elite:
Nog 2x
Cro Cop
Arlovski

Very good:
Sylvia
Hunt
Herring
Coleman I
Randleman
Schilt

Decent:
Coleman II
Arona
Babalu
Lindland
Fujita
Etc
 
Fedor didn't lose for 10 years. Big Foot beat some good fighters but has a very checkered record.
 
KrowX said:
Fedor has the biggest concentration of nuthuggers you will have encounter in your lifetime. No point arguing with them. Plenty of people have better wins than Fedor.

Lyoto Machida

Fabricio Werdum

Overeem

José Aldo

GSP

Anderson Silva

Vitor Belfort

Jon Jones

Daniel Cormier

And the list could go on and on and on. Fedor is far from being the GOAT.
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Its not just about the strength of your win list tho. IMO GOATs also have to be dominant. The 'greatest' is going to have a period where he(or she) is viewed as untouchable.

Anderson, GSP, Jones, and Aldo have had that so you could make a case for those guys being above him(I have Anderson and sometimes Jones above him personally). But the rest of those guys have not dominated the sport for any significant period of time. Thus can't be GOATs.

Werdum could maybe slide in there if he can get up to 3 defenses. Or if Cormier beats Jones in the rematch and then defends a few times.
 
TheComebackKid said:
No they're not, stop being silly.

Prime Nog 2x, Prime CC, Prime Tim, and Prime Arlovski are better wins. Plus Fedor has a bunch of not great but pretty good wins.

Fedor is the HW GOAT because he went undefeated for 10 yrs, won 4 titles, racked up 14 top 10 wins, defended his belt 3x, and beat the consensus #2 and #3 guys of his era. Show the man some respect.
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Ok he beat Nog and CC, but Tim always kinda sucked and he beat AA only through a lucky punch. Fedor is a great fighter but also of the most overrated ever.
 
TheComebackKid said:
Its not just about the strength of your win list tho. IMO GOATs also have to be dominant. The 'greatest' is going to have a period where he(or she) is viewed as untouchable.

Anderson, GSP, Jones, and Aldo have had that so you could make a case for those guys being above him(I have Anderson and sometimes Jones above him personally). But the rest of those guys have not dominated the sport for any significant period of time. Thus can't be GOATs.

Werdum could maybe slide in there if he can get up to 3 defenses. Or if Cormier beats Jones in the rematch and then defends a few times.
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Aldo, GSP and Anderson didn't spend half of their prime fighting guys that weren't even serious Mixed Martial Artists. May i remind you that a lot of Fedor's wins were against one dimensional strikers or grapplers? Even Hunt is better now than he was before. Hunt had very poor ground skills and still managed to almost submit Fedor twice, and that's the man you think is better than GSP or José Aldo? Do you seriously think that someone with the skill set of Hunt 10 years ago would be able to lock subs on Anderson Silva? You are out of your mind. Fedor was dominant in a weak division. Even the best guys he faced were not that skilled, compared with guys from other divisions. Compare Cro Cop to Frankie Edgar, for example. Fedor beat Cro Cop. José Aldo beat Frankie Edgar, who is a monster everywhere.
 
I don't know how anyone takes Fedor seriously anymore after he signed with Rizin and fought a nobody.
 
FedorFanBoy said:
You mad?





Fedor as a fighter was always one step ahead of his competition. Boxing, ground game, hell he even trained stand up in Holland kickboxing schools with Ernesto Hoost one of the most entertaining fighters of K-1. And he even tried to land a few kicks on Cro Cop... A master of head cutting? :D



He was supreme athlete. In 90% of his fights he was smaller than his opponents. People were scared of him.





I'm his big fan. And nobody was so dominant, so technical, so agressive as fedor was in heavyweight history.


I can say that someone is better then him. But who was so good in every place as Fedor was in mma history?

And lets not talk about power, we talk about pure skills as a fighter.

Submission and grappling skills in Heavyweight Werdum>Fedor>Rest of fighters

Stand up : He can bang with evrybody in the whole division. He sparred with boxing champions, K1 champions. He fought in stand up and was good against PRIME MIRKO CRO COP? THIS IS INSANE. He played the game by his own rules.

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DO YOU SEE THIS SHERDOG? DO YOU UNDERSTAND? FEDOR WAS THE SMARTEST FIGHTER IN HEAVYWEIGHT HISTORY, YES I CALL HIM GOAT OF HEAVYWEIGHT DIVISION. NO FIGHTER RULED 1 DIVISION FOR 10 YEARS IN MMA. Don't even say Aldo... Fedor is/was just good evrywhere.

Wrestling? The meaning of power, stamina and strength is too much but if we talk about skills he was above them all.

But i think he could get wrestlefu*ked by Cain and Bobby Lashley, maybe Miocic. He got skills but those guys are so strong...


Anyway... The GOAT of MMA is still banging and i hope we will see him fight someone with a name and skills in future.
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Calm down man :D
Yea Bigfoot has some big wins, but he has also some heavy losses lately. Anyway HW GOAT has to be Werdum.
 
Bigfoot only made a name off of Travis Browne.
 
Fair point, but Matt Hammil is even higher in the GOAT discussion imo, considering hes the only fighter to stop a prime Jon jones
 
TheComebackKid said:
You must have not heard of Mark Hunt, Heath Herring, or Semmy Schilt.
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I seem to remember you being around back when Fedor beat Hunt via sub which means like the rest of us old timers you also know Hunt was maybe Blue belt level at best on the ground at the time.

Semmy? Lol get real man he never was a great win for anyone in MMA this isn't K1.

Herring is a strange one he was ranked fairly high in a super weak HW divison for beating sub par comp most people have never heard of. A decent fighter but quiet sad if he is a name your throwing around for the best HW ever 5th best win. Perhaps not Fedors fault for HW being the most shallow in MMA.

Im gonna call you out for claiming Tim was in his prime when he fought Fedor that is pure horse crap he was 1-2 going into that fight in his last 3 with that one win via holding a much smaller Vera against the cage for 2 out of 3 rounds. Tim would go on to lose to Rey Mercer in 10 seconds in his next fight as well and would go on to never win a relavent fight again. This is in FACT Fedors 4th best win of his career.

Fedor has a great top 3 but after that its pretty slim pickings for top wins.
 
samoajoe said:
I seem to remember you being around back when Fedor beat Hunt via sub which means like the rest of us old timers you also know Hunt was maybe Blue belt level at best on the ground at the time.

Semmy? Lol get real man he never was a great win for anyone in MMA this isn't K1.

Herring is a strange one he was ranked fairly high in a super weak HW divison for beating sub par comp most people have never heard of. A decent fighter but quiet sad if he is a name your throwing around for the best HW ever 5th best win. Perhaps not Fedors fault for HW being the most shallow in MMA.
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Well my only point was that they were better than 40 yr old Mark Coleman. Yeah none of those wins were elite/great but they were good quality wins. Its like beating Bigfoot or Nelson or Browne nowadays.

Im gonna call you out for claiming Tim was in his prime when he fought Fedor that is pure horse crap he was 1-2 going into that fight in his last 3 with that one win via holding a much smaller Vera against the cage for 2 out of 3 rounds. Tim would go on to lose to Rey Mercer in 10 seconds in his next fight as well and would go on to never win a relavent fight again. This is in FACT Fedors 4th best win of his career.
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Yeah prime might have been too much he was very close to it at the very least. His previous fight with Nog he was dominating and got caught in a sub as that is what Nog does. Didn't look at all past his prime in that fight.

Fedor has a great top 3 but after that its pretty slim pickings for top wins.
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I think you could say Fedor has beaten 4 elite fighters(yes I'm including Tim). Other than Nog or Werdum what other HW in history has beaten more?

Cain has beaten 3 at most. CC, Barnett, Couture, Mir, Tim, Arlovski have only beaten 2 or 3 a piece.

And when you look at AS, Jose, and GSP they have beaten about 4 elite fighters themselves. Jones may be able to claim more. But beating 4 elite fighters is very good by historical standards. Then if you give him credit for his decent wins then he again is in the upper percentile in that regard.
 
Nice list of BIgfoot's impressive TRT wins
 
I need to cleanse myself from this thread
 
KrowX said:
Fedor has the biggest concentration of nuthuggers you will have encounter in your lifetime. No point arguing with them. Plenty of people have better wins than Fedor.

Lyoto Machida

Fabricio Werdum

Overeem

José Aldo

GSP

Anderson Silva

Vitor Belfort

Jon Jones

Daniel Cormier

And the list could go on and on and on. Fedor is far from being the GOAT.
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I kinda agree. Fedor was a great fighter in his time but lets be honest heavyweight has always had the weakest division by a long way. So to call him pound for pound greatest is an absolute myth. So many padded fights within his record that its not funny.

Heavyweight division <all
Always has been

When you had someone like Cormier blow through the heavyweights he faced like bigfoot, barnett, mir and nelson then that tells you a lot. Add on top of that AJ beating a current top 5 heavyweight in arlovski
 
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