Bigfoot. Is it possible they exist?

[Deleted member 409801]

I'll address the perceived calorie deficit two ways:
I live in a condominium development spread across some 20 acres. The land supports a herd of deer. They eat the flowers, acorns, and whatever else deer eat. In that small amount of land there is enough food to support a large deer body mass. That is because their diet is tailored to the environment.
Second point I'll have to call upon 'naked and afraid '. There was one show where the guy caught rats. In the 21 days he lost only 5 pounds. Considering the area they allot the contestants to I figure we can scale that for a skilled hunter in its environment and a proportionally large territory, the calorie intake shouldn't be an issue.

As I stated earlier, I am not a believer. However, if a Bigfoot body was to show up some day, I wouldn't be completely surprised.

The only thing I take issue with in this thread is the name calling of those who represent the realm of possibility. Plenty of logical arguments have been made and have sited fact as support.

You live in a fertilized , irrigated, landscaped with imported plants ( probably loaded with hostas and all sorts of succulent ornamentals) environment. Its probably not sealed off from the outside world either. Are you certain they only travel within your complex? Look at deer in the wild , they have much larger ranges than that generally. What's a male black bears range? They are of similar size , that's probably a good place to start your guess.

To your naked and afraid point , 3 weeks is vastly different than a lifetime. Eventually things are gonna get scarce and your gonna have to move to feed yourself.

Like I non sequitur'd you with earlier, I can make the case that Hitler staged his suicide , escaped from Berlin , moved to Boca del vista and lived to be 121. Some Nazis surely escaped justice and people have lived that long on occasion. That's not a very compelling argument though . Just because something isn't impossible doesn't make it a viable theory .

 

[Deleted member 409801]

Who wins in a fight? Bigfoot (not the UFC fighter) or a werewolf? I feel like a motivated Werewolf takes it easy.

What about bigfoot vs a merman in 4ft of water .......5 rounds?

 

[Execute]

What about bigfoot vs a merman in 4ft of water .......5 rounds?

Not only does the water help the merman move, but it should drastically lower bigfoot's elusiveness. You take away bigfoot's elusiveness....what does he have then? No way that fight even goes five rounds.

 

[FlawlessVictory]

according to Mountain Monsters there are several Species of Bigfoot:

Grassman
Yahoo
Sheepsquatch (Cross between a Bigfoot and a Ram)
Dustman
Cherokee Devil (able to Hypnotize)
Wildman
Midnight Whistler

man i love that Show, cant wait for more Nonsense in Season 4

 

[Deleted member 429137]

 

[Mr Jay]

4. This is not Africa, this is the United States, which is a very developed nation and has little to no locations that are completely isolated from human contact.

Why do people think Sasquatch is American?

Canada is a developed nation that has plenty of locations that are completely isolated from human contact.

 

[Deleted member 409801]

Why do people think Sasquatch is American?

Canada is a developed nation that has plenty of locations that are completely isolated from human contact.

So everyone that supposedly sees one in the US can be discounted now ? What about the holy grail Patterson film?

I'd like to debate the existence of the invisible space ship that's been hovering in my backyard for 3 weeks next please!

 

[MPH]

So everyone that supposedly sees one in the US can be discounted now ? What about the holy grail Patterson film?

I'd like to debate the existence of the invisible space ship that's been hovering in my backyard for 3 weeks next please!

 

[Mr Jay]

So everyone that supposedly sees one in the US can be discounted now ? What about the holy grail Patterson film?

I'd like to debate the existence of the invisible space ship that's been hovering in my backyard for 3 weeks next please!

4. This is not Africa, this is the United States, which is a very developed nation and has little to no locations that are completely isolated from human contact.

Gasm is implying that Sasquatch is only in the US, hence his comment which is why I asked the question

You're not very good at this, are you?

I would like to see your debate about the existence of the invisible space ship, you may have better luck with that topic.

 

[DoomPatrol]

Man, you are reaching. There are tons of species who are being discovered, from bugs, microorganisms, plants, small mammals, etc. that all die, shed, piss, nest, birth, shit, and they are still being discovered.

Do you think if an undiscovered animal shit in the woods 200 years ago that Scientists could just comb through through the dirt, find unknown DNA of it's shit and be like "EUREKA! I just discovered the existence of an animal we didn't know existed!" And even if they could, do you think they are doing that for every square inch of forested land in the world?

Tell me, how many old animal pelts, bones, etc. from hunters that were collected/traded/sold/destroyed, etc. have existed, been logged, and DNA tested? What naive world do you live in where people just have DNA recordings for all of their shit.

Again, I'm not arguing the existence of Sasquatch, I'm just disagreeing with the naive foundation of your argument which is that "oh if the bones/pelt from an extremely rare animal aren't around, today, then it must not exist". Again, are you ignoring the fact that there are relics/antiques/ even human remains of people that we knew existed, but were never actually found? And they were KNOWN to exist. Tasking people with finding the remains of an "animal" that is legendary for being elusive is just flatout stupid.

If you want to argue that Sasquatch doesn't exist, stick with an argument that makes you seem at least reasonable.

Dude comparing the discovery of new bug species to a huge omnivore is just too far of a reach. You're talking about them identifying things that are already identified, but in slightly different shapes and colors. A new species of moth or bird is nowhere as crazy as a new species of 200-800lb omnivores in the United States.

People aren't discovering huge animals like that anymore. We've found them all. It's no longer that part of our world's history. Humans have explored North America already. Giant gorillamen aren't hiding outside of Portland in the woods.


And as far as DNA goes, people aren't going to throw away a one of a kind animal pelt or bones. If someone had hunted, trapped, found a body they would understand it's value. And yes, if Bigfoot existed people would definitely take shit and piss samples if they found them. Hair fibers. All that stuff.

 

[Mr Jay]

Dude comparing the discovery of new bug species to a huge omnivore is just too far of a reach. You're talking about them identifying things that are already identified, but in slightly different shapes and colors. A new species of moth or bird is nowhere as crazy as a new species of 200-800lb omnivores in the United States.

People aren't discovering huge animals like that anymore. We've found them all. It's no longer that part of our world's history. Humans have explored North America already. Giant gorillamen aren't hiding outside of Portland in the woods.

Yep, just keep ignoring everything and cherry pick what you want.

Humans have explored North America already.

Totally, every square inch of Canada has been walked across by humans! There are definitely not unexplored areas that have never been walked across, that may or may not equate to the size of India. Nope, definitely not.

 

[Fedorgasm]

Why do people think Sasquatch is American?

Canada is a developed nation that has plenty of locations that are completely isolated from human contact.

There are a very high number of bigfoot sightings in the US. I don't know what the stats are, or how you'd even track those, since there's no official international organization that you call when you see bigfoot, but I'd bet that the US leads the world in bigfoot sightings.

If most or all of the sighting reports came out of Canada, or Africa, or South America, then I'd be more open to the possibility.

 

[Deleted member 409801]

" why do PEOPLE"

Sounds like a group to me . What group would that be ? I guess itd have to include every person that ever claimed to see one in the us , including Mr. Patterson. Keep on moving your goal post though!

North pole is where its at bro....you ever seen the north pole bro? Exactly!


You seem awfully invested in other people taking an idea seriously that you claim to consider bullshit.

 

[Mr Jay]

There are a very high number of bigfoot sightings in the US. I don't know what the stats are, or how you'd even track those, since there's no official international organization that you call when you see bigfoot, but I'd bet that the US leads the world in bigfoot sightings.

If most or all of the sighting reports came out of Canada, or Africa, or South America, then I'd be more open to the possibility.

A lot of sightings come from Canada, there's even a site that tracks for each province (intense, I know).

http://www.sasquatchcanada.com/bc-sightings.html

In fact, one of the first documented sightings occurred in Jasper, Alberta in the 1800's.

It has already been mentioned how much of Canada is not "boots on the ground" explored.

It's amazing the stupid things I have learned from researching this topic today...

 

[Mr Jay]

" why do PEOPLE"

Sounds like a group to me . What group would that be ? I guess itd have to include every person that ever claimed to see one in the us , including Mr. Patterson. Keep on moving your goal post though!

North pole is where its at bro....you ever seen the north pole bro? Exactly!


You seem awfully invested in other people taking an idea seriously that you claim to consider bullshit.

Well, you can read the thread and see the people talking strictly about the US. But it seems like reading is hard for you so you can take my word for it. Why do you keep mentioning Patterson? Sasquatch existed and was talked about before Patterson was even alive. Patterson has footage which is hugely debated between both sides. Personally, I think it's fake, but guess where they got all of the specs/ideas for the costume? From legends/myth/lore about Sasquatch, which came from "eye witness stories" from when people were in remote, isolated regions.

But hey, if you want to use bad arguments to disprove the Sasquatch, by all means, go ahead. Just don't try and pull a jgartner and call people "retarded" when you are using a retarded argument like "North America has been completely explored! If Bigfoot was around, we would have caught him on a satellite photo or a cellphone camera by now!". If you want to disprove something, do it right.

 

[Deleted member 409801]

Well, you can read the thread and see the people talking strictly about the US. But it seems like reading is hard for you so you can take my word for it. Why do you keep mentioning Patterson? Sasquatch existed and was talked about before Patterson was even alive. Patterson has footage which is hugely debated between both sides. If it's fake, which it likely is, guess where they got all of the specs/ideas for the costume? From legends/myth/lore about Sasquatch, which came from "eye witness stories" from when people were in remote, isolated regions.

But hey, if you want to use bad arguments to disprove the Sasquatch, by all means, go ahead. Just don't try and pull a jgartner and call people "retarded" when you are using a retarded argument like "North America has been completely explored! If Bigfoot was around, we would have caught him on a satellite photo or a cellphone camera by now!". If you want to disprove something, do it right.

What would make you happy , what's " right" ? Why dont you admittedly believe it ? Why dont you articulate the reasons why you're a skeptic? You sound like a wide eyed 12 year old , both for your silly naïveté concerning wilderness areas and your vacillating and cowardly non commitment to your position.

I look forward to your 3 paragraph response letting everyone know how you dont have time to outline any " legit " reasons. Too fuckin funny!

 

[Mr Jay]

What would make you happy , what's " right" ? Why dont you admittedly believe it ? Why dont you articulate the reasons why you're a skeptic? You sound like a wide eyed 12 year old , both for your silly naïveté concerning wilderness areas and your vacillating and cowardly non commitment to your position.

I look forward to your 3 paragraph response letting everyone know how you dont have time to outline any " legit " reasons. Too fuckin funny!

I'm naive? That's ironic considering you're supporting the argument that all of North America is completely discovered, when I told you and showed you otherwise. I've already given you my opinion of Sasquatch, and I'm not sure why you think it's a black and white thing. Are you saying it's only acceptable for you to either believe A) there's a mind controlling, telepathic, disappearing, dimension travelling Sasquatch or B) there is no Sasquatch? Feel free to go back and read my opinion, I'm not wasting my time rewriting it for you.

You're really fishing for an argument today, you've tried with another poster in this thread and now you're trying with me after white knighting jgag's illogical arguments (even for a Sasquatch thread). It's kinda sad, really. I think your "you sound like a wide eyed 12 year old" is you projecting. There's only one 12 year old in this thread, and it's the one who is red faced trying to start multiple arguments in a Sasquatch thread and trying to convince us all that you find it hilarious.

 

[MARTIAN]

There's been Dogman sightings in Michigan.

Nope. No there hasn't

 

[BearGrounds]

Nope. No there hasn't

It was jest because he mentioned werewolfs in a Bigfoot thread.

But here's this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michigan_Dogman

 

[Deleted member 409801]

No reasons yet ? Dodge noted.

Roadking man'd up and owned his position, that's respectable. What exactly are you doing? Still here arguing that something you absolutely dont believe has a great chance of being so? You make a decent point about remoteness, and instead of leaving it there ,decide to go on some Aspergers'esq tangent about bigfoot being Canadian. You're obviously too emotionally invested to hear any criticism and and then respond with any sort of cogent argument.

Did I call anyone any names? Disparage their mothers? You got your ass on your shoulders with me initially and you're still going, each post a little more whiney than the last. Cry more!

And yes ...it is hilarious, a literate first world adult seriously entertaining your silly opinion. Absolutely great stuff!