Big Nog's Move [GIF]

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  1. suicidalinfants

    suicidalinfants Banned Banned

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    What do you call this move by Big Nog? He always uses it after a failed takedown to get out of that position. He is the only one I have ever seen using it.

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  2. Mikey Triangles

    Mikey Triangles Bending Joints the Wrong Way Since 1985

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    i use it pretty often myself. I don't know if it has a particular name anywhere. it's just a type of sit out with omoplata sweep principles. i don't think you'd be wrong calling it an omoplata sweep, or a sit-out.
     
  3. codemonkey76

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    It's called an armspin, or a sit out.
    Here is my instructor doing it to me

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  4. Bird21

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    Well it sorta looks like a wrestling move called the peterson, but its some kinda weird variation.

    Edit: wait no not really, saw it from a weird angle.
     
  5. clift

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    It's an excellent move for a small HW as well because as witnessed in the Sapp fight it was quite effective in negating the weight/strength difference.
     
  6. codemonkey76

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    also if the person is sprawling on you with a lot of weight, they face plant straight onto the mat.
     
  7. Cmac916

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    I believe that is a Peterson, atleast that's what my wrestling team called it.
     
  8. suicidalinfants

    suicidalinfants Banned Banned

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    thanks guys
     
  9. Mikey Triangles

    Mikey Triangles Bending Joints the Wrong Way Since 1985

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    is that the peterson?


    similar, but not the same.
     
  10. WalkenWouldOwn

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    That was literally the first move I learned on my first day of class. Not sure what it's called though
     
  11. IChinaManI

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    Or separate their shoulder like me :mad:
     
  12. wOg

    wOg Burien Top Team

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    LOL! Same here!
     
  13. Cmac916

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    Ohh my bad, been a while since I was in the wrestling room.
    Thanks for the heads up.
     
  14. Zankou

    Zankou Muscle and Hate Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    It is a sitout if their elbow goes under the guy's armpit (like the Nog gif). You can do the kimura finish by cranking the elbow like he does there, though I try for the back after a sitout. In that gif, Sergei rolls out of the kimura finish.

    It is an armspin if they "overhook" the arm and shoot their other arm under as they come around (like your gif).

    Basically if somebody has an over-under grip on you, you have a sitout going one way and an armspin going the other way. The sitout is better, but if it's blocked, the armspin is open.
     
  15. DaRuckus337

    DaRuckus337 Black Belt

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    ^ what he said. It's an old wrestling move, and a new jiu jitsu craze! It's a good move to as a reversal option from bottom of turtle, and the primary reason not to sink your arms in too deep from the top of turtle.
     
  16. Zankou

    Zankou Muscle and Hate Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    Yeah, and you can see that codemonkey's arms are way too high on his opponent.

    If my opponent is a good wrestler, I won't even bother keeping a tight over-under. I just work for the choke or spinning around the back. Clamping down tight is just going to get you pwned.

    Damn, I wish I had better wrestling skills. Wrestling rules.
     
  17. DaRuckus337

    DaRuckus337 Black Belt

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    ^ against most people, I definitely look to use my wrestling and take advantage of that move when I'm on bottom and they lock up a tight head and arm/front headlock. However, there is one larger brown belt at my gym with ridiculous guillotines and crushing force who I have learned to hand-fight and back out against.
     
  18. Darkslide632

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    Looked like a failed attempt at Waki gatame to me.
     
  19. salboski

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    I've always seen it called a sit-out. We call it a wrestlers sit-out. Very effective move.
     
  20. Lion Killer

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    In wrestling it's called the Syracuse.
     

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