Because that was the only active part of his body. He was in the process of doing something with that arm (trying to get Ben's head) and then suddenly, for some reason (perhaps him losing consciousness), his arm just drops to the canvas. That his arm dropped to the canvas is beyond question. If you reject the claim that his arm dropped because he went out, then a different explanation must be proffered. What's the more likely/plausible explanation?
That's because his legs weren't doing anything. What should've happened? Should his legs have started to spasm? He was motionless, hence he remained motionless.
His other arm was already on the ground, so there was nowhere for it to drop to.
Matt Hughes came to pretty quickly after briefly going out from Carlos Newton's triangle at UFC 34, which is the fight with probably the closest finish to this one - and, ironically, one where BJM was the ref.
How much time? I'm guessing that the longer a choke is held past the point where you lose consciousness the longer it takes for you to return to consciousness. If that's true, then isn't the obverse true, too, namely that the less time you're out the quicker you come back? Again, I go back to the Hughes/Newton fight. From when Hughes decided to slam Newton to when they got to the ground, Hughes went out, but he was back in a flash and up on the Octagon fence because it all happened in the span of like two or three seconds.
I think that you're underrating the effectiveness of that choke.
I didn't notice any active tucking of Ben's foot. It looked like Robbie's plan was to put Ben in a cradle and have the momentum of pulling the head with his right arm and his leg with his left arm work to free him from the choke and then, once free, he could've used his head to roll Ben onto his back and land in side mount or blast away with punches from his knees or break free and get back to his feet. But the choke was too tight for that. Then his right arm dropped. But it doesn't look like he was actively doing anything with his left. It just looks to sort of sit there on Ben's leg where it was when he was thinking about the cradle.
He is literally pulling ben's foot when Herb stops the fight.
I noticed this LIVE during the transition.
The base is everything in this choke, not the grip.
Askren's strength has nothing to do with technique.
The choke, is completely overrated. Yes all chokes are effective but if you don't have hooks in on a rear naked... the conversation changes.
Ben may have been able to finish, but Robbie, was trapped and blindly grabbing the foot AND giving a thumbs up. The arm drop meant nothing because it wasn't matched in his whole body. He was simply stuck, in a headlock, the way anyone gets stuck in a headlock.
At first you are completely stuck.
In this case, it was the chin caught in a choke by a champ of a wrestler.
Fact is, Ben didn't let up pressure live, and I saw Robbie's arms moving live.
Slow mo confirms as well. Robbie stated the same thing, and Herb 100% doesn't even look at the arm when he checks.
The whole thing is truly a sad state of affairs because if the choke was in,
Robbie would still be out. None of this jives with actual grappling chokes.
Side note, you do have a good point about Newton/Hughes but due to the slam I cannot rule in the same convo (personally) but it is a reasonable observation. Also, Hughes was laid out and admitted he had no clue what happened. Robbie was hooking his foot and immediately knew what happened. He has not varied his story and Askren skirting the rematch is ridiculous.
) but for some reason people are butthurt over this choke, that was clearly locked in to a fairly high degree, and Robbie couldn't even move or do anything.. not even his hands up to askrens hands/arms/wrists to defend?
