Better Wrestler: Mark Coleman or Daniel Cormier?

Mark Coleman achieved more in wrestling than Cormier....and whatever Cormier did in MMA doesn't mean shit. This is a comparison of them in the sport of wrestling.

I hate to disagree but look up their achievements D.C. has the better pure wrestling achievements
 
I don't remember DC winning the pride Grand Prix or the ufc heavy weight title. He holds the light heavy weight tittle because the real champ took sex pill. Colemans credentials in mma might be more impressive.

Eh pure mma after thinking about it I think you maybe right
 
This is coming straight from DC himself. He said Romero is the better wrestler, and used his two victories against Sanderson as example. If the 2 Sanderson victories are anomalies (they're not) take a look at their respective wrestling careers, bearing in mind that neither gave up wrestling to pursue an MMA career until later in life.

Yoel has an Olympic silver, 5 world championship medals (1G 2S 2B), 6 world cup medals (3G 2S 1B) 2 medals at Pam Am games (1G 1B) and 5 medals at the Pam Am championships (5G).

DC has 1 world champion bronze, 2 medals at the Pam Am games (1G 1B) and 2 gold at the Pam Am championships (2G).

Their accomplishments in wrestling are not in the same league. Yoel is heads and shoulders above DC as a freestyle wrestler.

I thought this thread was about dc vs. Coleman in wrestling.....why the fck are we talking about yoel??
 
They have very comparable credentials. Coleman got a silver at worlds, Cormier a bronze. Both won the Pan American games once. I'm far from an expert on freestyle wrestling, but from the little I know, there may be an argument to make that Cormier had a slightly tougher era.
 
I hate to disagree but look up their achievements D.C. has the better pure wrestling achievements

No he doesn't...

Coleman
- 2x NCAA Division 1 national champion
- NCAA D1 Big ten champ
- 4x Pan American champion (one of the most prestigious WORLD wrestling tournaments of all time)
- National Freestyle wrestling Champion
- Silver in FILA world championship
- 7th place in the olympics

Cormier
- NCAA D1 Runner up
- NCAA D1 Big Ten runner up
- 2x Pan American Champ
- Bronze in FILA world championship
- 4th in the olympics
- Bronze in world championships

Those accomplishes ARE SIGNIFICANTLY inferior to Colemans, and the majority of Cormiers other accolades are Silver/Bronze in other lesser quality tournies. To compare Coleman and Cormier's wrestling careers is a no contest.
 
No he doesn't...

Coleman
- 2x NCAA Division 1 national champion
- NCAA D1 Big ten champ
- 4x Pan American champion (one of the most prestigious WORLD wrestling tournaments of all time)
- National Freestyle wrestling Champion
- Silver in FILA world championship
- 7th place in the olympics

Cormier
- NCAA D1 Runner up
- NCAA D1 Big Ten runner up
- 2x Pan American Champ
- Bronze in FILA world championship
- 4th in the olympics
- Bronze in world championships

Those accomplishes ARE SIGNIFICANTLY inferior to Colemans, and the majority of Cormiers other accolades are Silver/Bronze in other lesser quality tournies. To compare Coleman and Cormier's wrestling careers is a no contest.

I'll proudly apologize for my lack of research thank you for the education
 
Coleman would power him down thats for sure.
 
No he doesn't...

Coleman
- 2x NCAA Division 1 national champion
- NCAA D1 Big ten champ
- 4x Pan American champion (one of the most prestigious WORLD wrestling tournaments of all time)
- National Freestyle wrestling Champion
- Silver in FILA world championship
- 7th place in the olympics

Cormier
- NCAA D1 Runner up
- NCAA D1 Big Ten runner up
- 2x Pan American Champ
- Bronze in FILA world championship
- 4th in the olympics
- Bronze in world championships

Those accomplishes ARE SIGNIFICANTLY inferior to Colemans, and the majority of Cormiers other accolades are Silver/Bronze in other lesser quality tournies. To compare Coleman and Cormier's wrestling careers is a no contest.

You forgot to add that Cormier was a 5x senior national freestyle champion (Coleman achieved that feat once as you mentioned). Their freestyle accomplishments are definitely comparable (Cormier's likely being better overall due to the fact that he competed longer, although, Coleman got a silver as opposed to a bronze at worlds). Coleman had the better folkstyle creds (granted, he didn't have to face Cael Sanderson to get his national championships).
 
Having kidney failure from weight cutting puts a huge damper on that scenario.

DC did not have "kidney failure". He was severely dehydrated. Once he was rehydrated he walked out of the clinic.
 
I dunno Coleman was special being the Grandfather of GnP but Cormier just rag dolls dudes hard choice
 
And the winner is

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Kahuna Burger?

Idunno. I was too young to follow Coleman's wrestling career - and hadn't even begun wrestling. Didn't get to view Cormier's either, but I knew him as the guy who was a possible threat to Cael Sanderson.
That said, pound for pound, I'd say Cormier is probably better. Part of Coleman's success was being a powerful brute, and I have doubts he would be the same force with stringent testing. How many guys with solid tdd was he facing in his heyday, anyway? Would he have taken down Chuck and gnp'd him (w/out headbutts)?
 
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Huh?

Gus got 2(though only officially credited for 1) quick TDs leading to less than 10 seconds combined top time. DC pancake tossed Gus and had ~4 minutes of top time and passed his guard.

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+ Gus tripped DC twice. Cormier has better top control on the ground, though, thats true, but he wasnt able to do any damage since Gus` defence from bottom was a lot better than Rumble`s, for example.

And Gus didnt even try to keep DC on the ground, he used his td`s only to mix it up and to score some points.

Grappling in that fight was close, but Cormier hit the ground 5 times combined against his will, Gus once.
 
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If we're talking MMA wrestling it's DC by a good distance in my opinion.
 
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+ Gus tripped DC twice. Cormier has better top control on the ground, though, thats true, but he wasnt able to do any damage since Gus` defence from bottom was a lot better than Rumble`s, for example.

And Gus didnt even try to keep DC on the ground, he used his td`s only to mix it up and to score some points.

Grappling in that fight was close, but Cormier hit the ground 5 times combined against his will, Gus once.

The only reason Gus got those TD's is that DC was applying so much pressure and he got right back up once he got taken down. DC was chasing Gus the entire fight. There's a reason people said Gus was running. Don't get me wrong Gus has amazing defensive wrestling he stuffed both Jones and DC probably the best wrestlers in the game at the moment but no way in the world Gus can keep DC on the mat or he would have done it.
 
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