BETA Academy owner explains ending relationship with Lloyd Irvin

[robotsonic]

Lloyd criticizing people for 'being in it for the money' after his MMA millionaires goofiness and dumb videos with rented Ferraris and stacks of $5 bills, yeah OK dude.

Come on...I don't think this Nakapan guy is innocent, far from it, his association with Lloyd was purely down to his own greed, Lloyd is right about that, but Lloyd getting on his high horse about it, LMFAO! At least this guy has seen the light, Lloyd is still trying to sucker these saps into giving him money, lets not act too indignant now.

 

[Balto]

Its posts like this that make me fairly convinced there must be multiple people using this account. As someone that has studied English, and has spent a lot of time doing editing work, the devnull posts have several different writing voices and even seemingly different levels of english proficiency. Maybe its just a crazy CT, but that is my impression.

Sometimes you are lucid and coherent, and other times you seem to not even know what we are talking about. Strange indeed.

It's been confirmed to me by several of his students that Lloyd has guys post for him on throwaway accounts. Sometimes he even posts himself.

As much as the guy likes to pretend that he doesn't care about BJJ forums, he is an avid lurker of all the major ones. He even appointed Jordon to monitor them for him and report back.

I would not be surprised at all if multiple people were on the account. That is common operation over there.

 

[devnull]

So...did he just have the meeting with a gun in his pocket

or did he come in and was like "BY THE WAY I'M STRAPPED SO WATCH WHAT YOU SAY!"

That information is public knowledge and disclosed to everyone on the inside. NAK just using that as "negative" smear against LLoyd.

 

[Bojovnik Slav]

1) Lloyd is full of shit, and using the shittiest of methods to try and make his enemies look bad.
2) What's up with that big ass fucking zit on Lloyd's neck? That's not ballin'.

 

[GiBurns]

Promote a FREE women's self defense seminar yes, whats your point.

There is no such thing as free and Lloyd knows that. His "free" Dvds are a scam and a free seminar is used to bring people into an academy who normally wouldn't come. Free samples in the super market aren't given out of the goodness of their heart, they are given out to let you try it and then purchase it. Stop being so dense.

 

[GiBurns]

That information is public knowledge and disclosed to everyone on the inside. NAK just using that as "negative" smear against LLoyd.

NYE Rape happens
- Lloyd buys LloydIrvinRape.com to promote a seminar and do damage control

1989 Rape case is discovered
- Lloyd ignores it for a while and eventually releases a statement basically saying "I was aquitted so if you dislike me you're a hater!"

BETA Academy leaves TLI and states Lloyd is a bully
- Lloyd immediately replies by calling him names and insulting him and releases a video where he continues to insult him.

Oh poor Lloyd.

 

[dokomoy]

Question for lawyer types: Businesses IRS records aren't publicly available are they? It would be really interesting to see if Nakapan(or any other current/former MMA millionare pitchmen/people who gave testimonals for MMA millionares) had the kind of revenue increases they talked about.

 

[KGB256]

There is no such thing as free and Lloyd knows that. His "free" Dvds are a scam and a free seminar is used to bring people into an academy who normally wouldn't come. Free samples in the super market aren't given out of the goodness of their heart, they are given out to let you try it and then purchase it. Stop being so dense.

Jesus fucking Christ. Shut the fuck up. There's a world of things to criticize Irvin over, holding free rape prevention seminars shouldn't be one of them.

If someone goes to one and decides to join his gym, that's no more nefarious than any of the gyms across the country that offer free trial classes. OH NOES THE GUY IS DOING A GOOD THING THAT MAY HAVE AN ANCILLARY BENEFIT FOR HIS BUSINESS. My dojo did a can & blanket drive this winter, and it got publicized. I supposed you think we were only doing it for free publicity, huh? Give me a fucking break.

You claimed promoting a free rape prevention seminar was a cash grab, and it isn't. You were wrong. STFU and GTFO.

 

[Jhf884]

At work--someone want to summarize the LI video?

 

[ElKarlo]

Screen cap in case this is later removed or his page is taken down

Guy is obviously a massive liar/scumbag

 

[Helfrick]

They edited the fuck out of that video.

 

[Title Fight Productions]

Does Devnull ever quote and respond to Balto?

 

[devnull]

Jesus fucking Christ. Shut the fuck up. There's a world of things to criticize Irvin over, holding free rape prevention seminars shouldn't be one of them.

If someone goes to one and decides to join his gym, that's no more nefarious than any of the gyms across the country that offer free trial classes. OH NOES THE GUY IS DOING A GOOD THING THAT MAY HAVE AN ANCILLARY BENEFIT FOR HIS BUSINESS. My dojo did a can & blanket drive this winter, and it got publicized. I supposed you think we were only doing it for free publicity, huh? Give me a fucking break.

You claimed promoting a free rape prevention seminar was a cash grab, and it isn't. You were wrong. STFU and GTFO.

Oussssss.....

 

[GiBurns]

Jesus fucking Christ. Shut the fuck up. There's a world of things to criticize the guy over, holding free rape prevention seminars shouldn't be one of them.

If someone goes to one and decides to join his gym, that's no more nefarious than any of the gyms across the country that offer free trial classes. OH NOES THE GUY IS DOING A GOOD THING THAT MAY HAVE AN ANCILLARY BENEFIT FOR HIS BUSINESS. My dojo did a can & blanket drive this winter, and it got publicized. I supposed you think we were only doing it for free publicity, huh? Give me a fucking break.

I'm not criticizing free trial classes. I'm not saying free rape prevention seminars are bad. Those are great things and good for business. Everyone does that, no big deal.

However, he used the website to promote a seminar to cover up and manipulate search results to cover his ass and protect his business. Lloyd used the tragedy of his students and others for his gain. He even admits to this in his response that this was in bad taste so back off the crusade there buddy.

 

[devnull]

It's been confirmed to me by several of his students that Lloyd has guys post for him on throwaway accounts. Sometimes he even posts himself.

As much as the guy likes to pretend that he doesn't care about BJJ forums, he is an avid lurker of all the major ones. He even appointed Jordon to monitor them for him and report back.

I would not be surprised at all if multiple people were on the account. That is common operation over there.

That may be true, but I am not part of any of that. I had doubters about my story from the beginning again verified by moderators and well before any of this shit storm started.

 

[PayPerView]

Jesus fucking Christ. Shut the fuck up. There's a world of things to criticize Irvin over, holding free rape prevention seminars shouldn't be one of them.

If someone goes to one and decides to join his gym, that's no more nefarious than any of the gyms across the country that offer free trial classes. OH NOES THE GUY IS DOING A GOOD THING THAT MAY HAVE AN ANCILLARY BENEFIT FOR HIS BUSINESS. My dojo did a can & blanket drive this winter, and it got publicized. I supposed you think we were only doing it for free publicity, huh? Give me a fucking break.

You claimed promoting a free rape prevention seminar was a cash grab, and it isn't. You were wrong. STFU and GTFO.

You should read up on the slippery slope fallacy.

 

[mj12]

You all are a bunch of drama queens.

Forget this shit if your not affiliated with Lloyd and move on. Let the universe have its way.

 

[HEAVY GRAPPLER]

At work--someone want to summarize the LI video?

Here is most neutral summary I can muster:

Lloyd plays back footage of Nakapan speaking at LI seminars. Nakapan is glowingly endorsing LI and his business tactics. Basically asks "Was he lying then - or is he lying now? Either way, he is a liar."

LI accuses Nakapan and others of conspiring to steal his customers and taking advantage of the NYE incident while pretending to be altruistic.

LI explains that he always carries a gun since home invasion.

Holds up a sign that says "C'mon Son!" over and over.

Video is choppily edited and seems hastily made.

 

[Title Fight Productions]

So the video was the big 2pm shocker he spoke of!?

 

[PayPerView]

That may be true, but I am not part of any of that. I had doubters about my story from the beginning again verified by moderators and well before any of this shit storm started.

Then there is only one response anybody should ever respond to you with from now on.


Trollers gonna troll.