i will get my ass kicked i mean punched
in a street fight assuming that the boxing guy has the same level of atleticism experience and weight i will kick his ass
Best striking art for practical self-defense?
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i will get my ass kicked i mean punched
in a street fight assuming that the boxing guy has the same level of atleticism experience and weight i will kick his ass
Drunk guys can't take a punch to the face either.
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Since they are both free and easily accessible, take both boxing and MT. If you only have time for one, start with MT since it gets you use to using your knees and elbows. Just make sure to practice the striking from practical standpoint and work it into your ground fighting. If you box, make sure to practice proper punching without gloves on.
If one of the more traditional arts is interesting to you and you can find a dojo, I would do Kyokushin Karate and take the most practical moves from it. Kyokushin is full contact with no weight classes, you'll have lots of practice sparring with very strong practitioners. Many schools don't use pads so you'll get used to being hit, after a couple months, being hit isn't a bit deal. People won't hit you full strength trying to hurt you but it's definitely not soft.
If one of the more traditional arts is interesting to you and you can find a dojo, I would do Kyokushin Karate and take the most practical moves from it. Kyokushin is full contact with no weight classes, you'll have lots of practice sparring with very strong practitioners. Many schools don't use pads so you'll get used to being hit, after a couple months, being hit isn't a bit deal. People won't hit you full strength trying to hurt you but it's definitely not soft.
I don't know Muay Thai, just watch videos and tournaments, learning a little bit.
So I'll wrote what I know because something was done. 1. Kicks aren't not effecitve for self defense and aren't slow if right kick choosed and kicks are trained each day like daily gymnastic.
There are kicks types, really dangerous for execution attempts to trained opponent. Especially if that was combat or just good self defense training.
Other kicks types aren't so dangerous.
Sometimes kicks are most effective defense against kinfe attacks if opponent is skilled, there will be no any knife waiving, long moves etc what easy allows usual methods for defense.
I will never agree that kicks aren't good for self defense, because when I had real life knife defense situation, I used kicks, I had no time to use pepper spray or CCW permit advantage, nor use complex techniques. Kicks were simple, used in many sports every day.
2. Boxing is incredibly good, because I think, the best for learning how to defend against punches in head.
One serious disadvantage; they don't kick.
3. Judo throvs are good, especially on untrained opponent. Especially effective on concrete, on asphalt also works good. Even without throvs, skills about opponent's disbalancing are valuable asset.
Especially about kicks, good self defense instruction will teach where and how to kick for self defense... I don't mean just about hit balls etc stuff. These kicks are usable only in real, serious self defense situations, not for stupid fights. Kicks, strictly prohibited in sport competitions, combative sparrings etc....for situations, where law even allow you to use gun, for example.
So I'll wrote what I know because something was done. 1. Kicks aren't not effecitve for self defense and aren't slow if right kick choosed and kicks are trained each day like daily gymnastic.
There are kicks types, really dangerous for execution attempts to trained opponent. Especially if that was combat or just good self defense training.
Other kicks types aren't so dangerous.
Sometimes kicks are most effective defense against kinfe attacks if opponent is skilled, there will be no any knife waiving, long moves etc what easy allows usual methods for defense.
I will never agree that kicks aren't good for self defense, because when I had real life knife defense situation, I used kicks, I had no time to use pepper spray or CCW permit advantage, nor use complex techniques. Kicks were simple, used in many sports every day.
2. Boxing is incredibly good, because I think, the best for learning how to defend against punches in head.
One serious disadvantage; they don't kick.
3. Judo throvs are good, especially on untrained opponent. Especially effective on concrete, on asphalt also works good. Even without throvs, skills about opponent's disbalancing are valuable asset.
Especially about kicks, good self defense instruction will teach where and how to kick for self defense... I don't mean just about hit balls etc stuff. These kicks are usable only in real, serious self defense situations, not for stupid fights. Kicks, strictly prohibited in sport competitions, combative sparrings etc....for situations, where law even allow you to use gun, for example.
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Most physical altercations tend to be close quarter scuffles and other hairballs, so knowing how to use your hands is generally the first thing i'd recommend in terms of striking for someone new (though if you are in space, kicks are generally preferable).
Balancing (both yours and your opponent(s)) is also very important, so i'd recommend wrestling too.
If there was a martial art that basically just focused on clinch fighting (like wrestling with strikes) i'd recommend that, but until that day the classic wrestleboxing meta combo will do you.
Balancing (both yours and your opponent(s)) is also very important, so i'd recommend wrestling too.
If there was a martial art that basically just focused on clinch fighting (like wrestling with strikes) i'd recommend that, but until that day the classic wrestleboxing meta combo will do you.
In fact I love clinch.
About self defense advices to kick knee, balls, eye pokes etc.
If really fight is because brawery, without intent to kill or deliver GBH, majority of guys, if aren't mature criminals will not use agaisnt you in fight 1 vs 1 to show who is better many of dangerous techniques, because they really don't want live in prison.
If attempts to destroy his balls, knees etc, then he might think, that if he will defeated and go to ground, he will be kicked until his death.
So there usually his choose might be better prison than morque.
It is easy to kick simulation doll's nuts, knees and poke maneken's eyes. On live, quickly moving opponent who attacks, it is not so easy.
Self defense training should include not only dirty methods because if unsuccesful, they might induce devasting answer without mercy.
Maybe this dumb guy will not in revenge for broken nose to execute small joints locks to full extent, kick your knee with intent to smash, deliver multiple repated stirkes to throat or sometning else when you are down and keep kicking your body if you are already KOed.
Some are just aggresive to show superiority.
In chase if full of adrenaline (reduces pain effect ), aggresive, full with his superiority idea, maybe drunk, on pills recieved damaged eye, not enough strong kick or grab in nuts, attack to knee etc, then his technique might changed. Guy, who maybe in other circuimstances after you are down will decide allow you even stand up before continue fight or decide what to do, might go mad and deliver all the best he can do... to kill.
Of course, if initial intent was more serious or mature criminals, then there another conversation.
About self defense advices to kick knee, balls, eye pokes etc.
If really fight is because brawery, without intent to kill or deliver GBH, majority of guys, if aren't mature criminals will not use agaisnt you in fight 1 vs 1 to show who is better many of dangerous techniques, because they really don't want live in prison.
If attempts to destroy his balls, knees etc, then he might think, that if he will defeated and go to ground, he will be kicked until his death.
So there usually his choose might be better prison than morque.
It is easy to kick simulation doll's nuts, knees and poke maneken's eyes. On live, quickly moving opponent who attacks, it is not so easy.
Self defense training should include not only dirty methods because if unsuccesful, they might induce devasting answer without mercy.
Maybe this dumb guy will not in revenge for broken nose to execute small joints locks to full extent, kick your knee with intent to smash, deliver multiple repated stirkes to throat or sometning else when you are down and keep kicking your body if you are already KOed.
Some are just aggresive to show superiority.
In chase if full of adrenaline (reduces pain effect ), aggresive, full with his superiority idea, maybe drunk, on pills recieved damaged eye, not enough strong kick or grab in nuts, attack to knee etc, then his technique might changed. Guy, who maybe in other circuimstances after you are down will decide allow you even stand up before continue fight or decide what to do, might go mad and deliver all the best he can do... to kill.
Of course, if initial intent was more serious or mature criminals, then there another conversation.
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blast a guy in the shin with them badboys and your half way to victory
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My suggestion would be depending on your body type, athleticism, and what you want out of it.
Boxing is great for many reasons E.g. Footwork and Defensive Techniques Eg. parring, body covering and roll so on with footwork to help you survive an attack to cause bodily harm.
However first choice for me personally is Wing Chun and tools from other Kung Fu arts like Chin Na and Choy Li Fut so on.
It really is more about you, what you want to do first as a hobby that you enjoy or like and the style that best suits your body type and body mechanics.
Things to consider or remind yourself is LAWS on assault charges in your home country or city.
What is allowed and what is not...................... for example in the Criminal Act section on physical use of violence in defense known as "Proportionate Use of Force" must be adhered to and respected if you have any martial art or fighting skills.
Even if you don't have fighting skills the law stipulates how far you can go before it becomes an assault or murder charge given its merit on the written letter of legal ruling on such cases as foundation to prosecute and charge you with breaking the law.
I rather simply learn defensive techniques to subdue or evade or lock/trap the assailant and in TMA there are lots of techniques that cover those situations.
So in my opinion the Chinese Martial Arts offer much more in being self aware and tactical responses, I have trained in some other arts giving me other tools that would help as well.
There is always a situation where any given fighting technique is taken from any art can be applied successfully.
So its good to learn or master one system and have borrowed tools from other martial arts as you broaden your knowledge.
The main thing is never be in a place of trouble if so RUN and know how to RUN..............
P.S.............. sometimes what is best is to turn away and smile, life is better without drama!
Boxing is great for many reasons E.g. Footwork and Defensive Techniques Eg. parring, body covering and roll so on with footwork to help you survive an attack to cause bodily harm.
However first choice for me personally is Wing Chun and tools from other Kung Fu arts like Chin Na and Choy Li Fut so on.
It really is more about you, what you want to do first as a hobby that you enjoy or like and the style that best suits your body type and body mechanics.
Things to consider or remind yourself is LAWS on assault charges in your home country or city.
What is allowed and what is not...................... for example in the Criminal Act section on physical use of violence in defense known as "Proportionate Use of Force" must be adhered to and respected if you have any martial art or fighting skills.
Even if you don't have fighting skills the law stipulates how far you can go before it becomes an assault or murder charge given its merit on the written letter of legal ruling on such cases as foundation to prosecute and charge you with breaking the law.
I rather simply learn defensive techniques to subdue or evade or lock/trap the assailant and in TMA there are lots of techniques that cover those situations.
So in my opinion the Chinese Martial Arts offer much more in being self aware and tactical responses, I have trained in some other arts giving me other tools that would help as well.
There is always a situation where any given fighting technique is taken from any art can be applied successfully.
So its good to learn or master one system and have borrowed tools from other martial arts as you broaden your knowledge.
The main thing is never be in a place of trouble if so RUN and know how to RUN..............
P.S.............. sometimes what is best is to turn away and smile, life is better without drama!
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I think that street fights always should be avoided if possible, because in any moment 1 vs 1 might turn into 1 vs 3 or 1 vs 4 and they all simultaneuosly kick, punch and even use all available items, even stones!
About fighting skills, maybe in some locations they are considered as dangerous advantage, but not in all states and locations. Because too many trained people to bother with it.
In my municipality there initially worked karate club and boxing club, later another club opened. Of course, some less disciplined or because other reasons left training.
They do knockdown karate, not air punching, kickboxing and some boxing.
For municipality with about 20000 inhabitants...
Let's assume, how untrained are folks on my local streets. Decades ago there was even larger combat arts boom. Of course, not many from them participate in large tournaments, but they can kick and punch better and faster than average thug. Yes, there no any problems with guns use in schools or knife use in schools, despite this KO on the street might be delivered in matter of second, " bouts " usually last 1 - 20 seconds. Downed opponents are attacked rarely, because this is taken into account in courts.
Sometimes dumb guy's friends don't allow him kick downed opponent or try to deescalate conflict before aggresion started.
If in these situations their friend recieved kick in nuts, opponent might end with 1 vs 3 or even 1 vs 6 with some training. It looks not good.
About fighting skills, maybe in some locations they are considered as dangerous advantage, but not in all states and locations. Because too many trained people to bother with it.
In my municipality there initially worked karate club and boxing club, later another club opened. Of course, some less disciplined or because other reasons left training.
They do knockdown karate, not air punching, kickboxing and some boxing.
For municipality with about 20000 inhabitants...
Let's assume, how untrained are folks on my local streets. Decades ago there was even larger combat arts boom. Of course, not many from them participate in large tournaments, but they can kick and punch better and faster than average thug. Yes, there no any problems with guns use in schools or knife use in schools, despite this KO on the street might be delivered in matter of second, " bouts " usually last 1 - 20 seconds. Downed opponents are attacked rarely, because this is taken into account in courts.
Sometimes dumb guy's friends don't allow him kick downed opponent or try to deescalate conflict before aggresion started.
If in these situations their friend recieved kick in nuts, opponent might end with 1 vs 3 or even 1 vs 6 with some training. It looks not good.
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1) ARE YOU TRYING TO GET THE DUDE KILLED, never double in a street fight unless you have a good shot and your opponent outweighs you by no more than 20kgs.
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Ain't one to be fucked with
Guy who took him down knew Josh would outstrikd him like Jones so like a pussy he took him down to lay n pray
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That's what makes it so impressive; if you wanna know what works at the highest levels of teh streets, you gotta look at the highest levels of the streets.
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For the average person, I'd say boxing.
The techniques & basic tactics are straight forward, employ natural body mechanics, and are more readily learned compared to TMA based styles. Dirty boxing tactics for self defense afford an extension of the sweet science.
The techniques & basic tactics are straight forward, employ natural body mechanics, and are more readily learned compared to TMA based styles. Dirty boxing tactics for self defense afford an extension of the sweet science.
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