Best hold against spazzes?

[Samurai Jack]

crossface em till they squeal!

 

[Pine]

Neon belly is awesome.

 

[jasond]

Seriously though, in situations with big size differences, I have a much easier time controlling spazzes with side control than I do with knee on belly.

There's one guy who trains with us every other month or so. He's a strong, athletic guy who is well over 70 lbs heavier than me. I can hold him pretty much as long as I choose in side control, but as soon as I transition into knee on belly he literally bench presses me (which opens him up to armbars, but we're talking about controlling positions here).

I can control him in side control, scarf, reverse scarf, etc. at will, but knee on belly and mount are a pain against him; even though I can hold them well against other, larger opponents.

 

[nyne]

>>try the back naked choke.

Do you have to get the "third hook" in for that to work?

bwahahaha.

I hate it when it's a really strong / big spazz that tries to slam you as a way of passing guard....

 

[No Quarter]

I know neon belly works well, but what else is good for calming them the fuck down? We have a new whitebelt who's strong and just completely spazzes out every time he rolls to the point where he gasses after like the second match. Not to mention he slaps people by accident all the time and has kicked me in the head going for an armbar so hard it cranked my neck. I want to neon belly that kid so bad.

Kesa Gatame and press your weight into his chest so that he finds it difficult to breathe.

 

[Shabba Ranks]

I'm thinking a high mount would work well, because every time they try to explode out like cro cop, you armbar them like nog. Eventually they might realise that their approach to grappling is bad. So either that, or you do a sit on their face north-south

 

[FlameBoy]

Its surprised me, but most of you have said that you deal with spazzes by "abusing them" in dominant positions.

I find that spazzes usually end up driving me back so - I end up on my back. From here - as said only once before - Is do the scissor sweep - but never ever try to tak dominant position. I just flip em on their back as hard as I can and then just roll back and let em com again and again.

Sometimes - and Im doing it more frequently now - I used the "Let you pass my gward -choke the shit out of you Baseballbat Stylee" submission from the bottom.

and KoS if im ontop - of course!!

oh yeah and shoulder of doom too!

 

[jasond]

Its surprised me, but most of you have said that you deal with spazzes by "abusing them" in dominant positions.

I find that spazzes usually end up driving me back so - I end up on my back. From here - as said only once before - Is do the scissor sweep - but never ever try to tak dominant position. I just flip em on their back as hard as I can and then just roll back and let em com again and again.

Sometimes - and Im doing it more frequently now - I used the "Let you pass my gward -choke the shit out of you Baseballbat Stylee" submission from the bottom.

and KoS if im ontop - of course!!

oh yeah and shoulder of doom too!

When rolling with spazzes, you do tend to wind up on your back. But considering that they almost always stack like crazy in your guard, pendulum sweeps are practically gift wrapped for you every time.

 

[TacWar]

I'm thinking a high mount would work well, because every time they try to explode out like cro cop, you armbar them like nog. Eventually they might realise that their approach to grappling is bad. So either that, or you do a sit on their face north-south

I actually think that a low guard a la BJ penn with your legs hooked around his hips would work better for spazzes. You just base way out and let them struggle, and then when they inevitably run out of gas you ezekiel them. Gi or no GI Ezekiel FTW against spazzes.