Best Discipline For Self Defense?

etown said:
Street fights next to never go to the ground. The fight is over most of the time once it goes to the ground. BJJ is worthless.

Judo has the best real world application if you're gonna choose one martial art.
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maybe your a nice guy and maybe you've been fighting nice guys but every street fight Ive been in has ended up on the ground even when they don't have too even when Ive dazed them on our feet love to ground and pound when i start wont stop till my friends pull me off or i get gassed or my favorite destroy shoulders by Americana or kimura guess Im just an a hole with anger issues i bet some of the guys who i pounded on wish they knew bjj if nothing else the full guard and trap and roll
 
etown said:
Street fights next to never go to the ground. The fight is over most of the time once it goes to the ground. BJJ is worthless.

Judo has the best real world application if you're gonna choose one martial art.
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No! Grappling should always be second and this is coming from a wrestler. You want him out before he touches you. So i say Krav manga or silat.
 
no disrespect towards any one. one of my friends just moved here from Israel i had some questions for him about krav maga's beginnings and the military in Israel and he said yes its true every man and woman must join the military but there's no such thing as krav maga in Israel its purely an American novelty created by by Americans Jewish Americans that's is. but still an art that originated in America but by Jewish Americans I was wondering is that true or was he just misinformed he seemed pretty knowledgeable about all things Israeli almost a bit nationalistic so i kind of tend to believe him just getting a second opinion sorry Udi
 
Situational Awareness. Do more observing than talking and you will do just fine. Learn the basics of boxing and wrestling just in case and keep your mouth shut. Your in jail or whatever cause you screwed up. Not to make friends and influence people.
 
Krav manga is the best.

War Jewish/Japanese Art.
 
They do have Self defense classes out there. There are also some classes that teach advanced tactics, specifically for military application. One of the many advantages of living near a military base is that it was easy for me to find but I'm sure it can't be that rare. I studied a lot of disarm moves and reapplication, along with lots of moves made specifically for quickly subduing people which sounds exactly like what your looking for. Doesn't come with a flashy title but it gets the job done.
 
BJJ for grappling and groundfighting......boxing or Muay Thai for stand-up fighting......kali for weapons (knife and stick) training. Be well rounded in your training. You might have to train at various schools to accomplish this.

Krava Maga is for stand-up fighting against an untrained street fighter but against someone with fighting skills you are fucked and it also lacks groundfighting or grappling so if you go against a grappler or wrestler you are also fucked.

For multiple opponents you will need blade training....try Kali or another knife fighting style that is legit...Too many wannabees out there....

If you have to fight more than two guys the blade comes out and you cut the one with the biggest mouth first. You will need to put the others in shock so you will go for an artery...that will freak out the other fucks when they see the blood shooting out of their buddy's neck...

If you live in a state that allows you to carry a gun then get some training in firearms and carrry one at all times......the shit is out of control on the streets now....be prepared...
 
teamcarvalho said:
BJJ for grappling and groundfighting......boxing or Muay Thai for stand-up fighting......kali for weapons (knife and stick) training. Be well rounded in your training. You might have to train at various schools to accomplish this.

Krava Maga is for stand-up fighting against an untrained street fighter but against someone with fighting skills you are fucked and it also lacks groundfighting or grappling so if you go against a grappler or wrestler you are also fucked.

For multiple opponents you will need blade training....try Kali or another knife fighting style that is legit...Too many wannabees out there....

If you have to fight more than two guys the blade comes out and you cut the one with the biggest mouth first. You will need to put the others in shock so you will go for an artery...that will freak out the other fucks when they see the blood shooting out of their buddy's neck...

If you live in a state that allows you to carry a gun then get some training in firearms and carrry one at all times......the shit is out of control on the streets now....be prepared...
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LOL, so being a wrestler makes your balls turn into steel and your nape immune to elbows?
 
Human Bass said:
LOL, so being a wrestler makes your balls turn into steel and your nape immune to elbows?
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Let me guess you train in Krav Maga or some other ineffective reality based martial art where they teach you to avoid from getting taken down with nut shots and elbows?
 
Cigarettejitsu.

Buy as many cartons as you can going in and put them in your comissary account.

How many times has this thread been done here?

I choose Vulcan arts ftw. Neck pinch and mind meld all the way baby!
 
teamcarvalho said:
Let me guess you train in Krav Maga or some other ineffective reality based martial art where they teach you to avoid from getting taken down with nut shots and elbows?
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I do practice Krav-Maga, and they recommend nut shots, elbow, biting, finger snaping, eye gouging, running away or whatever works, we do not look for the KO, just our well being. How a reality based martial art can be ineffective? Only if doesn't actually fit reality. Nevermind the fact that the creator of Krav-Maga was a great boxer and wrestler himself. Oh, i guess you thought it was just a skinny jew trying to create a martial art for soccer moms.

And as someone already said in this thread, situation awareness is the most important thing.
 
I always tell people the same thing when training for self defense. It is a perishable skill. You can learn on technique and then expect to use is three months from now with out practicing. As for what tech ..

Take any of you favorite sport and do what is not legal in the sport.

ex

Baseball .. cant take the bat to first base = carry a weapon

football .. cant face mask = attack the face control the head

football .. cant hit the kickers supporting leg while he kicks ... = kick it every time

BJJ . cant neck crank or heal hook = you see where i am going with this?
 
If I were to rank it, here would be the results:

1. Gun defense
2. Filipino arnis/Kali (because sticks and knives are cheap) or Krav Maga
3. Muay Thai
4. Boxing
5. Judo or Wrestling
6. BJJ
 
Honestly, its a no win situation. If you are in a prison fight it will usually be against multiple opponents some of whom probably have knives. That being said you might still want to train at a full contact Kick Boxing/Muay Tai school and also work on a lot of knife defenses because stabbings are a very common way to die in prison. Perhaps making your own shank would be good too. Or better yet, stay out of trouble so this horrible scenario never occurs.
 
BOXING,KAPAP,FLORO KNIFE FIGHTING SYSTEM AND BOXING :icon_chee
 
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