Elections Bernie/AOC 2028 ticket

[joy2day]

Gavin Newsom 2028

Yep. The only one that can win. He would destroy ANY Rep in a debate the way he wrecked Hannity on more than one occasion. Hannity is like helpless trying to talk over hm to stop the wreckage. If you look at all of the bills he signed or didn't sign since the start of his last term, he is far more of a centrist than people try to make him out to be; people like to point to one bill or a few decisions he made to distort his record, but the bigger picture is another story. I don't favor a bunch of far-left candidates to match the extremists on the right.

AOC cannot win the presidency; I don't know that a ticket with her on it at all could win. There has been a grand total of 4 presidential tickets with a woman as a president or vice president in the major parties and loads of female candidates in smaller parties or independents. Guess how many of those have won? Yep, time to learn a lesson at this point. America will not elect a woman at this time in our history; it just won't happen, and hiding from that reality has consequences (see tariffs).

 

[Mikeydontgiva]

bernie is the truth but he is too old.

walz/aoc is the ticket. with bernie in the cabinet.

WALZ!!!!!!

 

[Mikeydontgiva]

Gavin Newsom 2028

Yep. The only one that can win. He would destroy ANY Rep in a debate the way he wrecked Hannity on more than one occasion. Hannity is like helpless trying to talk over hm to stop the wreckage. If you look at all of the bills he signed or didn't sign since the start of his last term, he is far more of a centrist than people try to make him out to be; people like to point to one bill or a few decisions he made to distort his record, but the bigger picture is another story. I don't favor a bunch of far-left candidates to match the extremists on the right.

AOC cannot win the presidency; I don't know that a ticket with her on it at all could win. There has been a grand total of 4 presidential tickets with a woman as a president or vice president in the major parties and loads of female candidates in smaller parties or independents. Guess how many of those have won? Yep, time to learn a lesson at this point. America will not elect a woman at this time in our history; it just won't happen, and hiding from that reality has consequences (see tariffs).

So we can eat cake while he hosts covid parties??

Newsom was the first governor in the country to issue a stay-at-home order (on March 19).....

.......On November 6, Newsom and his wife, Jennifer, attended a 50th birthday party for political consultant and lobbyist Jason Kinney, at the uber-exclusive French Laundry restaurant in the heart of the state’s Napa Valley. They were two of a dozen people at the event, which was held at an outdoor table in the courtyard of the restaurant. Newsom sitting closely packed with other guests – and none wearing a mask.


But for someone who had been leading the charge on what effective government response to this pandemic looked like, Newsom’s knuckle-headed decision to defy his own best practices is a bad look. A very bad look.



While they told you you couldn't go to funerals or to the beach....

 

[joy2day]

So we can eat cake while he hosts covid parties??

Newsom was the first governor in the country to issue a stay-at-home order (on March 19).....

.......On November 6, Newsom and his wife, Jennifer, attended a 50th birthday party for political consultant and lobbyist Jason Kinney, at the uber-exclusive French Laundry restaurant in the heart of the state’s Napa Valley. They were two of a dozen people at the event, which was held at an outdoor table in the courtyard of the restaurant. Newsom sitting closely packed with other guests – and none wearing a mask.


But for someone who had been leading the charge on what effective government response to this pandemic looked like, Newsom’s knuckle-headed decision to defy his own best practices is a bad look. A very bad look.



While they told you you couldn't go to funerals or to the beach....

Trump's past parties included his very close buddy Jeffrey Epstein, and that's for many years, so I think we can let parties ride and get over it. Gavin also admitted and apologized for his mistake, while Trump is trying to bury his by blocking release of the Epstein files.

lol exactly what my post said- someone would post about one issue or one thing he did. The year is 2025, and the talk is policy.

 

[UFCUCF]

2028 will be Trump/Vance vs Barack Huessain/AOC

You think we are going to amend the Constitution in the next 3 years?

 

[Mikeydontgiva]

Trump's past parties included his very close buddy Jeffrey Epstein, and that's for many years, so I think we can let parties ride and get over it. Gavin also admitted and apologized for his mistake, while Trump is trying to bury his by blocking release of the Epstein files.

lol exactly what my post said- someone would post about one issue or one thing he did. The year is 2025, and the talk is policy.

Policy which applies to the pawns but not the man in charge.... but all is good if we apologize.

 

[joy2day]

Policy which applies to the pawns but not the man in charge.... but all is good if we apologize.

Well again, it is one event, and it isn't hanging with ped0philes and NOT apologizing.

 

[cincymma79]

These 2 have been making the rounds all over the country attracting GINORMOUS crowds. They are starting very early and gaining massive grounds trying to attract Independents and Republicans over to their side. I know there has been several polling done that shows these 2 would have won in a landslide if they ran against Trump in 2024.

Would you support this Presidential ticket in 2028?

You guys should definitely do this. 1000%.

 

[joy2day]

You think we are going to amend the Constitution in the next 3 years?

They wouldn't need to. Just have the ex-president run as the VP, then have their running mate cede the presidency to them after the election. I would hope that doesn't happen, but in theory it could.

 

[Mikeydontgiva]

Trump's past parties included his very close buddy Jeffrey Epstein, and that's for many years, so I think we can let parties ride and get over it. Gavin also admitted and apologized for his mistake, while Trump is trying to bury his by blocking release of the Epstein files.

lol exactly what my post said- someone would post about one issue or one thing he did. The year is 2025, and the talk is policy.

Well again, it is one event, and it isn't hanging with ped0philes and NOT apologizing.

Why do you keep deflecting to Trump?

This is a liberal presidential ticket thread.... Trump has nothing to do with this, but you have multiple times deflected to him.

Answer for the liar, who sees himself above the law.

 

[joy2day]

Why do you keep deflecting to Trump?

This is a liberal presidential ticket thread.... Trump has nothing to do with this, but you have multiple times deflected to him.

Answer for the liar, who sees himself above the law.

He is at this point a center left candidate, but I'm not going to argue with idiots who watch Fox News and don't know anything about the bills he is actually supporting these days. You don't know enough to have this discussion.

Why do you keep deflecting from your ped0phile? Answer for your lying president who said the Ukraine war would end within 24 hours of him taking office.

Above the law? Trump is sticking his tongue out at the law, are you daft? He's ignoring legally binding court rulings.

Cultist MAGA goons kill me with their hypocrisy.

You really like Ped0philes, huh?

 

[Mikeydontgiva]

He is at this point a center left candidate, but I'm not going to argue with idiots who watch Fox News and don't know anything about the bills he is actually supporting these days. You don't know enough to have this discussion.

Why do you keep deflecting from your ped0phile? Answer for your lying president who said the Ukraine war would end within 24 hours of him taking office.

Above the law? Trump is sticking his tongue out at the law, are you daft? He's ignoring legally binding court rulings.

Cultist MAGA goons kill me with their hypocrisy.

You really like Ped0philes, huh?

More deflection. And insults.

Speak to the topic.

Enlighten me as to how his politics made California better?

Enlighten me as to why we want a known liar and a guy who installs laws for the people but not for him?

Enlighten me as to why you can't argue for your candidate without involving Trump?

We are talking about Newsome.




Lets talk about Newsome though.....

1. Highest Cost-of-Living in the Nation

California has the highest cost-of-living burden in the country under Gavin Newsom. In fact, our “2023 Cost of California Report” found that living in the state imposes a $26,478.72 additional cost on middle class families, compared to the national average.

By every measurement, Californians pay more for their cost of living than residents in other states. This is from a variety of factors including massive tax hikes and minimum wage increases which have dramatically increased the prices of goods and services in the state — and chased businesses away. For example, thanks to Newsom’s policies, the total gas tax obligation for Californians will be approximately $2 per gallon in 2026.

2. Soaring Crime

According to a recent report by the U.S. Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) on crime rates in 2022, while nationwide crime has gone down, California's crime rate is consistently spiking and went up in 2022 by a staggering 13%.

The passage of Proposition 47 and Proposition 57 in California (both championed by Gavin Newsom) are key drivers of the increase in crime over recent years. These flawed propositions tied the hands of law enforcement to crack down on crime and reduced many penalties to simple slaps on the wrist — emboldening criminals and causing repeat offenses.

Instead of admitting his mistakes that led to California’s current crime wave, Gavin Newsom doubling down on his failure and is thwarting efforts to enact reforms to restore the ability of law enforcement to arrest and punish criminals.

3. Worst Homelessness Crisis in the Nation

Despite California spending over $24 billion on homeless prevention programs from 2018 to 2022 alone, California’s homelessness crisis has gotten far worse under Newsom’s leadership. From 2007 to 2022, homelessness nationally has fallen 10%, but it has increased in California by a staggering 31.6% according to the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development. In fact, California represents roughly 12% of the US population – but has a third of the homeless population.

Newsom is using the flawed “Housing First” approach, which claims that a homeless individual having a home will cure their problem. This approach fails to address the root causes of most homelessness: addiction and mental illness.

According to a study by the American Journal of Community Psychology, 75% of chronically homeless individuals have substance abuse or severe mental illness.

But under Newsom, California state regulations ban funding from being given to homeless programs if they dare try to enforce rules like no drug use or required mental health treatment.

4. Weakest Election Integrity in Nation

The bedrock of our functioning republic is the public’s trust in our election system and the integrity of election results. But Gavin Newsom has actively undermined election integrity in California by: reducing the amount of polling centers, greenlighting ballot production policies that lead to duplicate ballots, refusing to clean voter rolls, and much more.

In fact, our audit of the 2022 California Election found that the state failed 9-out-of-10 election integrity metrics and found ample evidence of fraudulent voting.

5. Helping Human Traffickers While Creating a Border Crisis

Gavin Newsom has supported Joe Biden's reckless “open borders” policy, which has resulted in record numbers of illegal immigrants crossing every month since Biden took office, including hundreds of individuals on the terror watch list.

Newsom has denigrated border patrol agents as racists, supported numerous changes in policies to take away their ability to do their jobs, supported a Sanctuary State law for California to ban any cooperation between law enforcement and ICE/border patrol agents, and has continued to increase welfare payments to illegal immigrants to incentivize them to come to the US illegally.

6. Failing Schools – And Attacks on Parents

California schools are failing and are more concerned about spreading toxic curriculum than core competencies under Gavin Newsom. Test scores in California have shown a steep decline in reading and math achievement for 3rd through 11th grade. Of the most shocking results, only 13% of students in Bakersfield met the state standard for math, and only 41% of students in Los Angeles Unified were proficient in reading.

For the first time in 20 years, California public school enrollment has now fallen below 6 million with a decrease of 1.4% last year. In urban and more liberal areas of the state like the Bay Area, enrollment dipped as much as 4%. Charter school enrollment also decreased by 2%, while private school enrollment saw an increase of 1.7%.

But Newsom has turned a blind eye to these results and has been focused on attacking parents and removing parents’ “Right to Know” about what their children are learning and whether they are having challenges over their identity.

7. Negligence Creating an Insurance Crisis

Under Newsom, several insurers have announced plans to increase rates or pause or cease coverage in California.

The insurance crisis is caused by three drivers:

First, massive surge in inflation under Newsom and Joe Biden has caused the cost of home damage repair (construction/appliance costs) to skyrocket way above the assumed models that insurance companies expected when they set premiums in 2019-2023.

Second, the severity of wildfires is worse because Newsom has failed to implement proper forest management practices.

Third, the state insurance regulations prevent insurance companies from providing cost-efficient policies that reflect rapidly changing market conditions.

Newsom has failed to address these causes and has instead attempted to blame “Climate Change” for the insurance crisis.

8. A Pattern of “Pay-to-Play” Politics

Gavin Newsom appears to have engaged in pay-to-play politics by receiving millions from state contractors and developers and rewarding them with billions in state contracts and housing subsidies. Conveniently, these same special interests donate to his wife's 501c3 foundation, from which she has drawn more than a million dollars in compensation.

Newsom also recently took a lot of heat over “Panera-Gate” — in which he allegedly exempted Panera from a $20 per hour minimum wage increase bill after a Panera owner donated to Newsom’s campaign.

9. Failed Green New Deal Policies (Energy, Water Rationing)

Newsoms’ “Green New Deal” policies have resulted in the shutdown and restriction of nuclear and natural gas plants, leading to a reliance on unreliable solar and wind energy sources. He has also imposed mandates, taxes, and regulations on gas and energy, resulting in the highest rates in the nation and a crushing burden on working families.

In fact, consumers are forced to pay higher utility rates to fund government-mandated "public purpose" programs, such as welfare assistance, climate change programs, and wildfire preparedness. There is also a "High Usage Charge," which is basically a "Hidden Usage Charge," on all energy bills, penalizing consumers for using over a certain amount of energy.

By choking energy production, politicians have forced California to import 30% of its energy each year from neighboring states. These failures have led to increased energy costs for Californians and a strain on the state's electrical grid.

Newsom has also been negligent in his mismanagement of the state’s water supply. Only 5% of California's water is used for residential, retail, and commercial consumption, while 40-45% is used by agriculture and 50-55% is directed out to the ocean.

Environmental restrictions have also led to less usage of rivers, such as the case of the Delta Smelt. New technologies to enhance water supplies have been rejected by Newsom and state politicians.

10. Destroying Direct Democracy by Gutting Citizen Initiative Rights

In October, Newsom filed for an “Emergency Injunction” from the liberal-dominated California Supreme Court to prohibit voters from voting on the California Taxpayer Protection Initiative in the November 2024 election – despite the fact that citizens had collected the required 1 million signatures to force the issue onto the ballot.

Before the CA Supreme Court, Gavin Newsom’s legal team argued that voters are too stupid to decide on important issues like tax hikes! “The voters simply don’t have the capacity,” claimed Margaret Prinzing, attorney for Gov. Gavin Newsom.

The liberal court unanimously sided with Newsom, blocking the California Taxpayer Protection Initiative from the November ballot — effectively stripping citizens of the initiative rights that they have had for over 112 years.

 

[Mikeydontgiva]

Yep. The only one that can win. He would destroy ANY Rep in a debate the way he wrecked Hannity on more than one occasion. Hannity is like helpless trying to talk over hm to stop the wreckage. If you look at all of the bills he signed or didn't sign since the start of his last term, he is far more of a centrist than people try to make him out to be; people like to point to one bill or a few decisions he made to distort his record, but the bigger picture is another story. I don't favor a bunch of far-left candidates to match the extremists on the right.

AOC cannot win the presidency; I don't know that a ticket with her on it at all could win. There has been a grand total of 4 presidential tickets with a woman as a president or vice president in the major parties and loads of female candidates in smaller parties or independents. Guess how many of those have won? Yep, time to learn a lesson at this point. America will not elect a woman at this time in our history; it just won't happen, and hiding from that reality has consequences (see tariffs).

Since he wrecks ANY Rep in a debate and an illustration of his failures and refusing to admit them:

In Debate With DeSantis, Newsom Can’t Admit California’s Policy Failures

Last week’s Fox News debate between Ron DeSantis and Gavin Newsom revealed several inconvenient truths about California and Gavin Newsom. One is that California’s poorly designed economic policies have delivered record high housing costs and homelessness, high tax rates, high energy costs, and...

www.hoover.org

 

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[oldshadow]

I hope they run. If Vance runs it would assure he would win.

Newscum is fairly easy also with the way he has run California. No matter how much he backtracks on things like men in women's sports and private areas his record is there.

 

[Gamer2k4]

America will not elect a woman at this time in our history; it just won't happen, and hiding from that reality has consequences (see tariffs).

It has nothing to do with the gender and everything to do with the person. Hillary and Kamala simply weren't liked. A woman can win, but it needs to be the right woman. Oprah could probably win, for example. AOC? Nope.

 

[Mikeydontgiva]

It has nothing to do with the gender and everything to do with the person. Hillary and Kamala simply weren't liked. A woman can win, but it needs to be the right woman. Oprah could probably win, for example. AOC? Nope.

Shoudve been Tulsi in 2020, but the dumb Dems pushed her out

 

[Confucamus]

Yes, please run AOC. Please do that.

 

[joy2day]

It has nothing to do with the gender and everything to do with the person. Hillary and Kamala simply weren't liked. A woman can win, but it needs to be the right woman. Oprah could probably win, for example. AOC? Nope.

Actually it has a lot to do with gender; there is still a large group of people who wouldn't vote for a woman in both parties, which was apparently with Kamala (and identified in polls and focus groups). It has nothing to do with women's abilities- I'm saying voters won't vote for them. The fact that two women couldn't beat Trump and one man could should tell you something.

You think Opera wouldn't be hated like those women are? The right would absolutely demonize her and make an ugly spectacle of it. A female minority has even less of a chance of winning.

I'd like to be idealistic and think this isn't true, but unfortunately, this is still a red pill to swallow in America. A lot of Dems want Whitmer, but I think Newsom would have a much better chance at winning in the end. We also need to dispense with the great grandad candidates, so no Bernie either.

 

[UFCUCF]

They wouldn't need to. Just have the ex-president run as the VP, then have their running mate cede the presidency to them after the election. I would hope that doesn't happen, but in theory it could.

I see. Technically, though, then the tickets would be Vance/Trump and AOC/Obama at least until the switch-a-roo.

Trump again or Obama again without a switch would need an amendment, right??

I don't see either Trump or Obama having the ego to run for VP even with a nod and wink.