Elections Bernard Sanders doesn't believe in lubrication

[deviake]

I thought Kamala would win, she was milquetoast but she had some solid policy and Trump ran a dog shit campaign, but nope. Looks like catering to Republicans and ignoring the left on specific issues didn't work out. Bernard has some tough knocks for the Democrats. Anyway, this election is over, back to fake tan, cheeseburger powered Hitler.

After Trump Win, Bernie Sanders Blames Democrats for Abandoning Working People

"It should come as no great surprise that a Democratic Party which has abandoned working-class people would find that the working class has abandoned them," Sanders said.

inthesetimes.com

Shortly before Vice President Kamala Harris delivered her concession speech on Wednesday, U.S. Sen. Bernie Sanders forcefully called out Democratic Party leadership for losing The White House and at least one chamber of Congress to Republicans. “It should come as no great surprise that a Democratic Party which has abandoned working-class people would find that the working class has abandoned them,” Sanders (I-Vt.) said in a statement. “First, it was the white working class, and now it is Latino and Black workers as well.”

“While the Democratic leadership defends the status quo, the American people are angry and want change,” said the senator, who decisively won reelection on Tuesday as Republicans reclaimed the upper chamber. “And they’re right.” After seeking the Democratic presidential nomination in 2016 and 2020, Sanders spent this cycle campaigning for Harris, warning of Republican President-elect Donald Trump’s return, blasting billionaire involvement in U.S. politics, and urging Democrats to better serve working people.

In Sanders’ new statement, he highlighted U.S. income and wealth inequality, worker concerns about artificial intelligence, and the federal government’s failure to provide paid leave and universal healthcare while pouring billions of dollars into Israel’s war on the Gaza Strip.

“Will the big money interests and well-paid consultants who control the Democratic Party learn any real lessons from this disastrous campaign? Will they understand the pain and political alienation that tens of millions of Americans are experiencing? Do they have any ideas as to how we can take on the increasingly powerful oligarchy which has so much economic and political power?” he asked. “Probably not.”


“In the coming weeks and months those of us concerned about grassroots democracy and economic justice need to have some very serious political discussions,” Sanders concluded. “Stay tuned.”

Progressives — who have responded to Trump’s Electoral College and popular vote win by criticizing billionaires who backed him and promising “unprecedented resistance” during his second term — echoed Sanders’ remarks.

I'm skipping some here, I recommend reading the article. I'll post the last bit though.

“It’s time for Washington, D.C. to put up or shut up, no matter the party, no matter the candidate,” added Fain, whose union endorsed Harris. “Will our government stand with the working class, or keep doing the bidding of the billionaires? That’s the question we face today. And that’s the question we’ll face tomorrow. The answer lies with us. No matter who’s in office.”

 

[Fedor>Cain]

Bernie on the money.

Is normal.

 

[Hellowhosthat]

Yeah they need to give people a reason to vote for them that's more than you shouldn't vote for the other guy.

 

[Busgosu]

Rickson Bernie by armbar

 

[lsa]

he goes in dry?

 

[Ares Black]

 

[moreorless87]

I think the Dems really got away with 2020 due to Trumps deadly bungling of covid and his anti establishment message not doing so well when he'd actually been in power.

 

[Bob Sagat]

I thought Kamala would win, she was milquetoast but she had some solid policy and Trump ran a dog shit campaign, but nope. Looks like catering to Republicans and ignoring the left on specific issues didn't work out. Bernard has some tough knocks for the Democrats. Anyway, this election is over, back to fake tan, cheeseburger powered Hitler.

After Trump Win, Bernie Sanders Blames Democrats for Abandoning Working People

"It should come as no great surprise that a Democratic Party which has abandoned working-class people would find that the working class has abandoned them," Sanders said.

inthesetimes.com

Shortly before Vice President Kamala Harris delivered her concession speech on Wednesday, U.S. Sen. Bernie Sanders forcefully called out Democratic Party leadership for losing The White House and at least one chamber of Congress to Republicans. “It should come as no great surprise that a Democratic Party which has abandoned working-class people would find that the working class has abandoned them,” Sanders (I-Vt.) said in a statement. “First, it was the white working class, and now it is Latino and Black workers as well.”

“While the Democratic leadership defends the status quo, the American people are angry and want change,” said the senator, who decisively won reelection on Tuesday as Republicans reclaimed the upper chamber. “And they’re right.” After seeking the Democratic presidential nomination in 2016 and 2020, Sanders spent this cycle campaigning for Harris, warning of Republican President-elect Donald Trump’s return, blasting billionaire involvement in U.S. politics, and urging Democrats to better serve working people.

In Sanders’ new statement, he highlighted U.S. income and wealth inequality, worker concerns about artificial intelligence, and the federal government’s failure to provide paid leave and universal healthcare while pouring billions of dollars into Israel’s war on the Gaza Strip.

“Will the big money interests and well-paid consultants who control the Democratic Party learn any real lessons from this disastrous campaign? Will they understand the pain and political alienation that tens of millions of Americans are experiencing? Do they have any ideas as to how we can take on the increasingly powerful oligarchy which has so much economic and political power?” he asked. “Probably not.”


“In the coming weeks and months those of us concerned about grassroots democracy and economic justice need to have some very serious political discussions,” Sanders concluded. “Stay tuned.”

Progressives — who have responded to Trump’s Electoral College and popular vote win by criticizing billionaires who backed him and promising “unprecedented resistance” during his second term — echoed Sanders’ remarks.

I'm skipping some here, I recommend reading the article. I'll post the last bit though.

“It’s time for Washington, D.C. to put up or shut up, no matter the party, no matter the candidate,” added Fain, whose union endorsed Harris. “Will our government stand with the working class, or keep doing the bidding of the billionaires? That’s the question we face today. And that’s the question we’ll face tomorrow. The answer lies with us. No matter who’s in office.”

maybe the democrat elder liches/handlers should have had a democratic primary instead of shifting delegates around to kamala in the most underhanded move of the entire election cycle
bernie's been snubbed for 3+ times and his window is over, he never got a fair shake
they didn't want to risk a candidate they couldn't control so they opted for willie brown's cumrag. great work guys

 

[deviake]

he goes in dry?

He uses sand and the tears of the of the establishment

 

[deviake]

I think the Dems really got away with 2020 due to Trumps deadly bungling of covid and his anti establishment message not doing so well when he'd actually been in power.

Yeah, he threw away Obama's pandemic response manual too and disbanded the National Security Council pandemic directorate. I remember when I found out about Brovid-19 I thought, "oh, here we go." I was surprised but not too surprised as I'd read years prior that we'd probably be getting a pandemic in my lifetime

 

[moreorless87]

maybe the democrat elder liches/handlers should have had a democratic primary instead of shifting delegates around to kamala in the most underhanded move of the entire election cycle
bernie's been snubbed for 3+ times and his window is over, he never got a fair shake
they didn't want to risk a candidate they couldn't control so they opted for willie brown's cumrag. great work guys

I think this was quite deliberate though, the aweful truth is that the "democrate elders" and there backers probably fear even a relatively mild(but seemingly genuine) progressive like Sanders more than they do a Trump presidency. Biden stayed on to make sure a primary didnt happen and then replacing him with Harris late on avoided it as well, if Harris had won then we'd have a 12 year gap between contested primarys.

For all the partisan circus we see played up really Trump and Harris are pretty close on the big economic issues and probably won't be that different on foreign policy either, even something like abortion I think the Dems were happy to use it as blackmail for decades rather than working towards making it harder to ban it.

Even a mild move to progressive politics is a much bigger threat to the interests of their backers and so to themselves. If a genuine progressive got it and started to shift towards funding by personal donation and perhaps limiting massive cooperate funding(and rewards like directorships after your political career) then the gravey train they sold their souls to ride would potentially dry up.

 

[Ares Black]

maybe the democrat elder liches/handlers should have had a democratic primary instead of shifting delegates around to kamala in the most underhanded move of the entire election cycle
bernie's been snubbed for 3+ times and his window is over, he never got a fair shake
they didn't want to risk a candidate they couldn't control so they opted for willie brown's cumrag. great work guys

I could not possibly agree more. The fact that Joe Biden even ran again was absurd, and not having a real primary was a fatal mistake.

This is a direct result of the DNC blocking the progressive takeover of the party. The Democrats would rather lose to Trump than lose to Bernie.

 

[Sweater of AV]

Dems feeling the Bern.

 

[deviake]

I think this was quite deliberate though, the aweful truth is that the "democrate elders" and there backers probably fear even a relatively mild(but seemingly genuine) progressive like Sanders more than they do a Trump presidency.

For all the partisan circus we see played up really Trump and Harris are pretty close on the big economic issues and probably won't be that different on foreign policy either, even something like abortion I think the Dems were happy to use it as blackmail for decades rather than working towards making it harder to ban it.

Even a mild move to progressive politics is a much bigger threat to the interests of their backs and so to themselves. If a genuine progressive got it and started to shift towards funding by personal donation and perhaps limiting massive cooperate funding(and rewards like directorships after your political career) then the gravey train they sold their souls to ride would potentially dry up.

I could not possibly agree more. The fact that Joe Biden even ran again was absurd, and not having a real primary was a fatal mistake.

This is a direct result of the DNC blocking the progressive takeover of the party. The Democrats would rather lose to Trump than lose to Bernie.

And continuing with this line of thought, when they call Trump a fascist, they're tacitly admitting they'd rather lose or at least risk losing to fascism than risk a left wing movement gaining traction. Historically I don't think this is anything new

 

[Madmick]

LOL, I love how the takeaway from deluded leftists is always, "We just weren't retarded enough, that's why we lost."

 

[Ares Black]

And continuing with this line of thought, when they call Trump a fascist, they're tacitly admitting they'd rather lose or at least risk losing to fascism than risk a left wing movement gaining traction. Historically I don't think this is anything new

The Cheney endorsement was a huge mistake too. To many people he is literally a war criminal and one of the greatest monsters of the 21st century. To others else he's just another Republican.

When he left office he had an approval rating of 13%

Seems to me that inviting a deeply unpopular and divisive war criminal into your Big Tent wasn't a great idea.

 

[Ares Black]

LOL, I love how the takeaway from deluded leftists is always, "We just weren't retarded enough, that's why we lost."

We don't use the R word. It's an ableist slur and it's dehumanizing.

 

[moreorless87]

And continuing with this line of thought, when they call Trump a fascist, they're tacitly admitting they'd rather lose or at least risk losing to fascism than risk a left wing movement gaining traction. Historically I don't think this is anything new

The truth is I would say the greatest enemy of genuine moral progressive politics is the centralist liberial establishment in politics and the media, outward right wing conservatives may run against them but the centralist liberials "job" is basically to build up false credibility with a thin mask of tokenistic liberialism and use it to suppress progressive politics which could threaten their masters interests.

We saw this so obviously in the UK were Corbyn was massively attacked by his own party and the "liberial" media and we saw it in the US were Sanders primary attempts were attacked by the same groups, again we see it most plainly in France were Macron works with the far right before he works with progressives.

 

[Ares Black]

The truth is I would say the greatest enemy of genuine moral progressive politics is the centralist liberial establishment in politics and the media, outward right wing conservatives may run against them but the centralist liberials "job" is basically to build up false credibility with a thin mask of tokenistic liberialism and use it to suppress progressive politics which could threaten their masters interests.

We saw this so obviously in the UK were Corbyn was massively attacked by his own party and the "liberial" media and we saw it in the US were Sanders primary attempts were attacked by the same groups, again we see it most plainly in France were Macron works with the far right before he works with progressives.

Corporate centrists suck so bad

 

[Madmick]

We don't use the R word. It's an ableist slur and it's dehumanizing.

In 2016 you sang this song because you didn't pick Bernie despite that Bernie did worse than Hillary in the key areas where Trump flipped districts. He wasn't even more popular on the left, but you guys delusionally grasped at this takeway. 'It's because we weren't radical enough,' derp. The mistake wasn't trying to appeal to more moderate voters. The mistake was not forcibly ejecting the jackknobs who care more about "ableism" and "diversity, equity, inclusion" than the pricing of everyday goods. They've hijacked your party.

You'll turn around and say, "Well, Trump hijacked your party." Yeah, sure, agreed, conceded. But guess what this election showed you? Trump is way more popular, and way less hated between the two. You dig?

Try to run an Elizabeth Warren. Tell her to write another de facto "Open Borders" platform in an essay on Medium laying out her vision for the country. See how that works out for you.