Elections Bernard Sanders doesn't believe in lubrication

I could not possibly agree more. The fact that Joe Biden even ran again was absurd, and not having a real primary was a fatal mistake.

This is a direct result of the DNC blocking the progressive takeover of the party. The Democrats would rather lose to Trump than lose to Bernie.
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lol, holy shit, your takeaway is that liberals aren’t extreme enough?
 
Liberals aren't extreme at all

You're just politically illiterate

Isnt it hilarious how many goons in here that voted for an "anti-establishment extremist" somehow think that an anti-establishment extremist isnt going to work?

Obama won twice by teasing tearing down of systemic norms. Bernie stoked a whole movement without taking corporate money at all and was popular even with otherwise Republican voters. But nah, literally only a right wing corporatist disguised as a populist could actually get away with selling everyone that (while not delivering on it).

Bernie's not even extreme, this Country has assassinated or jailed most actual leftists that dared to pursue power. Bernie is a mild Soc-Dem, but to these indoctrinated consumers hes a full-on Commie. Might as well be Bernie Castro, and people actually resonated with his vibe so hard that when the Liberals quashed it, tons of Bernie Bros became Trump voters.

It dont work though, and you're retarded if you dont think the Democrats should continue with milquetoast centrism
 
Liberals aren't extreme at all

You're just politically illiterate

You’re claiming the democrats lost this election because they weren’t far enough left and also calling someone else politically illiterate….

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That’s world class delusion, well done.
 
You’re claiming the democrats lost this election because they weren’t far enough left and also calling someone else politically illiterate….

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That’s world class delusion, well done.
I never said any such thing.
 
<Neil01> If Repubs blocked the border issue why would only Dems be blamed for open borders when Repubs that could do something about it chose not to.
Are you special or something lol?

Biden broke the border with his executive orders and everyone knows it. He could’ve fixed (and eventually did fix it conveniently on time for the election because his polls were in the shitter) without any republican help.

We all saw him on national television saying “swarm the borders immediately” prior to being elected.

Only the true low IQ (vote blue no matter who) types fall for that nonsense you’re spewing right now.
 
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It is difficult to fight against oppression. It takes courage and conviction. You do not possess these qualities.


We don't need people like you. You are welcome to think whatever nonsense you want.
You’re not oppressed snowflake, but I’ll be sure to shed some tears for you.
 
Are you special or something lol?

Biden broke the border with his executive orders and everyone knows it.

We all saw him on national television saying “swarm the borders immediately” prior to being elected.

Think about what you're saying. I don't think you're reading what you type. You just said "Biden broke the border with his executive orders and everyone knows it." So let me get this correct. He broke the border supposedly, then tried to pass a border bill with the help of Congress which was voted down by the vast majority of Republicans and your response is to only blame Dems for "open borders" when both parties failed in their response?

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Here is the link for help
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/co...ecurity-bill-campaign-border-chaos-rcna153607
 
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Think about what you're saying. I don't think you're reading what you type. You just said "Biden broke the border with his executive orders and everyone knows it." So let me get this correct. He broke the border supposedly, then tried to pass a border bill with the help of Congress which was voted down by the vast majority of Republicans and your response is to only blame Dems for "open borders" when both parties failed in their response?

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Here is the link for help
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/co...ecurity-bill-campaign-border-chaos-rcna153607
Yeah. I, and like the majority, blame the person who broke it. He did fix it conveniently in time for the election because his polls were in the toilet, thus proving he didn’t need that POS bill to fix his own fuck up. Only the blue no matter who people and the Rinos liked that border bill.

I know you think you’re intelligent, but it’s not a good look to constantly fall for reality warping propaganda.
 
Isnt it hilarious how many goons in here that voted for an "anti-establishment extremist" somehow think that an anti-establishment extremist isnt going to work?

Obama won twice by teasing tearing down of systemic norms. Bernie stoked a whole movement without taking corporate money at all and was popular even with otherwise Republican voters. But nah, literally only a right wing corporatist disguised as a populist could actually get away with selling everyone that (while not delivering on it).

Bernie's not even extreme, this Country has assassinated or jailed most actual leftists that dared to pursue power. Bernie is a mild Soc-Dem, but to these indoctrinated consumers hes a full-on Commie. Might as well be Bernie Castro, and people actually resonated with his vibe so hard that when the Liberals quashed it, tons of Bernie Bros became Trump voters.

It dont work though, and you're retarded if you dont think the Democrats should continue with milquetoast centrism

Not to tag on but the most hilarious thing to me is that some people that voted for Trump are people that want tax cuts but do not want tax cuts for millionaires and billionaires. So exactly who is going to continue to fund major social programs like Social Security and unemployment which are favored by people of all parties? There are states that receive more Federal money than they put in per year. So how is that going to be funded if no one is paying and states do not pick up the tab?

I said this elsewhere but you also can't be about decreasing the deficit and be for more tax cuts. That's not how it works. The government cannot cut enough services to function and collect less taxes. In order to get out of the deficit you have to get more money, not less.
 
You’re not oppressed snowflake, but I’ll be sure to shed some tears for you.
I'm not. I have a great deal of personal freedom. I wish the same for everyone, which is why I am progressive.
 
Not to tag on but the most hilarious thing to me is that some people that voted for Trump are people that want tax cuts but do not want tax cuts for millionaires and billionaires. So exactly who is going to continue to fund major social programs like Social Security and unemployment which are favored by people of all parties? There are states that receive more Federal money than they put in per year. So how is that going to be funded if no one is paying and states do not pick up the tab?

I said this elsewhere but you also can't be about decreasing the deficit and be for more tax cuts. That's not how it works. The government cannot cut enough services to function and collect less taxes. In order to get out of the deficit you have to get more money, not less.

Those programs are likely gone.
 
Maybe if they campaigned with a few more Cheyneys they might have got across the line you think?

Cheney is going to have an absolute meltdown if Trump is able to end the Ukraine/Russia war. How will he fill his pockets without people dying?
 
I thought Kamala would win, she was milquetoast but she had some solid policy and Trump ran a dog shit campaign, but nope. Looks like catering to Republicans and ignoring the left on specific issues didn't work out. Bernard has some tough knocks for the Democrats. Anyway, this election is over, back to fake tan, cheeseburger powered Hitler.


Shortly before Vice President Kamala Harris delivered her concession speech on Wednesday, U.S. Sen. Bernie Sanders forcefully called out Democratic Party leadership for losing The White House and at least one chamber of Congress to Republicans. “It should come as no great surprise that a Democratic Party which has abandoned working-class people would find that the working class has abandoned them,” Sanders (I-Vt.) said in a statement. “First, it was the white working class, and now it is Latino and Black workers as well.”

“While the Democratic leadership defends the status quo, the American people are angry and want change,” said the senator, who decisively won reelection on Tuesday as Republicans reclaimed the upper chamber. “And they’re right.” After seeking the Democratic presidential nomination in 2016 and 2020, Sanders spent this cycle campaigning for Harris, warning of Republican President-elect Donald Trump’s return, blasting billionaire involvement in U.S. politics, and urging Democrats to better serve working people.

In Sanders’ new statement, he highlighted U.S. income and wealth inequality, worker concerns about artificial intelligence, and the federal government’s failure to provide paid leave and universal healthcare while pouring billions of dollars into Israel’s war on the Gaza Strip.

“Will the big money interests and well-paid consultants who control the Democratic Party learn any real lessons from this disastrous campaign? Will they understand the pain and political alienation that tens of millions of Americans are experiencing? Do they have any ideas as to how we can take on the increasingly powerful oligarchy which has so much economic and political power?” he asked. “Probably not.”
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“In the coming weeks and months those of us concerned about grassroots democracy and economic justice need to have some very serious political discussions,” Sanders concluded. “Stay tuned.”

Progressives — who have responded to Trump’s Electoral College and popular vote win by criticizing billionaires who backed him and promising “unprecedented resistance” during his second term — echoed Sanders’ remarks.

I'm skipping some here, I recommend reading the article. I'll post the last bit though.

“It’s time for Washington, D.C. to put up or shut up, no matter the party, no matter the candidate,” added Fain, whose union endorsed Harris. “Will our government stand with the working class, or keep doing the bidding of the billionaires? That’s the question we face today. And that’s the question we’ll face tomorrow. The answer lies with us. No matter who’s in office.”

Bernie might be the GOAT American politician but he's only partially correct here.

Everyone's forgetting that Biden beat the dogshit out of Trump in 2020 with extremely centrist, establishment Democrat policies. His entire campaign was pretty much "Vote for me if you want to get back to normal after 4 years of this moron."

And it worked.

Why didn't it work for Kamala? Because she's nowhere near as likable, charismatic, and is a poor communicator.
 
Yeah but Bernie is actually a selfless servant to humanity and the country and would have materially benefited all the lower and middle class people and we would have never had the growing dissatisfaction that keeps happening in politics because both sides are sold out and full of s***.
Bernie might be the GOAT American politician
Oh please...I can't take martyr narrative around Bernie. He is not a Victor Frankel or even a Chomsky/Hitchens.

He is the most overrated figure in my lifetime. He makes the biggest promises ever but he never had the means neccessary to actually achieve them. He wasn't even paying his own employees $15 per hour wage that he was railing for.


But the country/dems chose barabas instead.

Really? He supported dicking around in Iraq and Afghanistan....


He voted against troop wages being increased.

He voted against AI CP being illegal.

He thinks stuff like Women fantasize getting raped and stuff like the age of consent is a social construct. That gives me goosebumps. He also has other weird opinions around sexuality in general.



Even right-wing blue collar men and women would have realized he wasn't a communist or even really a socialist once they saw the effect his policies had on their lives.
Really? He ascribed himself as a democratic socialist. He spent 30 yrs as a politician and the most that he couldn't cosign a major piece of legislation...What makes you think he'll become an effective legislator as President for people to even get the chance to see his utopian policies in action.
 
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Yeah. I, and like the majority, blame the person who broke it. He did fix it conveniently in time for the election because his polls were in the toilet, thus proving he didn’t need that POS bill to fix his own fuck up. Only the blue no matter who people and the Rinos liked that border bill.

I know you think you’re intelligent, but it’s not a good look to constantly fall for reality warping propaganda.

I'm just trying to follow your logic. Also, by the way, the border issue is a tell as old as time so Biden did not break it. Every election season Repub campaigns bring out ads saying stuff about fixing the border but somehow it never gets fixed no matter who is in office. Yet, somehow people only blame the Dems. Funny how that works. It's as if it's a talking point that Repubs use to bolster their base but never actually fix it themselves.

Dems do it too. Every election season Dems talk about taxing millionaires and billionaires to appeal to their base no matter who is in office and what do you know.....nothing happens.
 
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