Ben Askren has higher finish rate than Johny Hendricks

[benjaminbuttons]

We don't know then why speculate. Hendricks lost to story who lost to CB who lost to Hendricks. It's mma math and nobody is psychic.

Well its just as stupid to act like Askren is a better finisher then Hendricks while Johnny is fighting guys like Lawler and GSP and Askren is fighting guys in Asia nobody has heard of.

 

[dmtpanic]

Well its just as stupid to act like Askren is a better finisher then Hendricks while Johnny is fighting guys like Lawler and GSP and Askren is fighting guys in Asia nobody has heard of.

Is he the better finisher or the more frequent finisher?

Because I'm pretty sure this statistic only supports the latter. The former is subjective.

 

[Slongkong]

Everyone Ko's kampmann. ASkren would sleep him

 

[RageRoider]

Is he the better finisher or the more frequent finisher?

Because I'm pretty sure this statistic only supports the latter. The former is subjective.

again , Askren can finish with sub ,he can finish with punches in every round ,Hendricks can just finish in first round by big left punch

 

[Tamriel Terror]

ben askren's best win is either jay h. or lima.

 

[RepairManManMan]

again , Askren can finish with sub ,he can finish with punches in every round ,Hendricks can just finish in first round by big left punch

Yeah, he can, finish however which way he wants.

Just doesn't do it as frequently as Askren.


Numbers, man, they're so crazy.

 

[CC27]

No way Hendricks can finish the number 248 WW and number 88 ranked WW.

He's busying fighting the top 10 while Askren has never fought a single top 10 fighter.

 

[Amerikuracana]

Lawler and Condit are a little bit tougher than Suzuki.

Lima is like a more technical, harder hitting, probably less durable version of Condit.

I would like to see either Koreshkov v Lima vs Lawler. I mean, lawler just had a kick-boxing match with Brown that was pretty close, so don't let the UFC shills tell you it would be some kind of blow-out. It wouldn't.

 

[Amerikuracana]

ben askren's best win is either jay h. or lima.

Hieron isn't nearly as good as Lima or Koreshkov.. He Split decisioned his way through Bellator. He gave Ben his toughest fight, because he doesn't suck, but Hieron gave Ellenberger about the same fight. While Story beat Hendricks.

 

[Firestarter101]

I could get in the ring with Askrens opponents and I am a couch potatoe.

 

[JKG]

I didn't say they were, did I?

You implied it by responding with that list of names to my post where I stated that although Askren has a slightly better finish rate, his opposition has been weaker. You're no genius, are you?

 

[RepairManManMan]

You implied it by responding with that list of names to my post where I stated that although Askren has a slightly better finish rate, his opposition has been weaker. You're no genius, are you?

I didn't say anything about level of competition. I simply said that Hendrick's hasn't looked as super impressive as people say against said competition.

You have to try and pay attention more.

 

[jodyc81]

You implied it by responding with that list of names to my post where I stated that although Askren has a slightly better finish rate, his opposition has been weaker. You're no genius, are you?

Askrens best oposition was hieron and lima, both of which went to decision. hes dropped down in terms of opposition and is getting more finishes.
Hendricks has had a steady climb to the top in terms of opposition hence more close decisions, you see it in jiu jitsu matches, when skill levels are even they cancel eachother out and matches are won by advantage points.

 

[usmctanker242]

Except Askren holds three top 15 wins and two top 25 wins.

You are both wrong and ignorant.

Just because a fighter is not in the UFC, does not mean they are unranked.

Beat Dan Hornbuckle (ranked #15 at the time at 170).
Beat Jay Hieron (ranked #11 at the time at 170).
Beat Douglas Lima (ranked #13 at the time at 170).

Both Koreshkov and Amoussou were #24 at the time of their fights against The Funky One.

http://www.fightmatrix.com/fighter-profile/Dan+Hornbuckle/34553/
http://www.fightmatrix.com/fighter-profile/Jay+Hieron/21244/
http://www.fightmatrix.com/fighter-profile/Douglas+Lima/35113/
http://www.fightmatrix.com/fighter-profile/Andrey+Koreshkov/75957/
http://www.fightmatrix.com/fighter-profile/Karl+Amoussou/34100/

Use rankings outside of Fightmatrix and you'll see that Askren's opponents haven't broken the top 20 when he fought them. And lets be real... he lost that fight to Jay Hieron.

 

[JKG]

Askrens best oposition was hieron and lima, both of which went to decision. hes dropped down in terms of opposition and is getting more finishes.
Hendricks has had a steady climb to the top in terms of opposition hence more close decisions, you see it in jiu jitsu matches, when skill levels are even they cancel eachother out and matches are won by advantage points.

Exactly

 

[Marce Porter]

Askren isnt fighting guys in the top 10, 20, or 30. Hendricks would finish every single fighter that askren fought cant say the same thing for askren going against Hendricks competition

lol, Askren has 5 top 25 wins and 3 top 15 wins.

 

[JKG]

I didn't say anything about level of competition. I simply said that Hendrick's hasn't looked as super impressive as people say against said competition.

You have to try and pay attention more.

So you don't read other people's post and just reply to them at random to spout your opinion, ok, I get it.

 

[Bunku]

No moron, nobody's actually arguing the #'s. What everyone with a brain itt is pointing out is that OP tossed out some completely meaningless #'s and followed it up with "Are you still drinking the kool aid?"

Are you dumb enough that you don't see what OP was trying to infer with that phrase?

No, but im smart enough to not get gotten to and start arguing the obvious. Or be the 100th johny nuthugger who comes up with the original "the competition johny faces is far more talented" duh.

Like said, accept the %. And if you are accepting, also what the hell are you being mad to me for? Are you trying to win some internet argument?

If you cant see youre the fool doing just the thing op wanted lol. And obviously youre quite emotionally invested too. I better leave you to cool down now. See you.

 

[Kinger85]

ridiculous that the UFC didn't sign him.

All because some people wrongly said that he was boring.

 

[Meathead Jock]

And lets be real... he lost that fight to Jay Hieron.

Almost lost, but he won.

In addition to the judges, the small amount of mma media agreed he did just enough to win. Besides it was early in his career, many great fighters have lost to people a hell of a lot worse than Hieron while getting started.