Bellator attendance-7000, UFC-4000

SBC said:
You are spinning it. Bellator pulled in the greatest gate the Mohegan Sun has ever had. The UFC was hoping that nobody would show up to Bellator's show simply because there was a UFC going on. Well that didn't happen. But you're very anti-Bellator pro UFC and always have been. Just like numerous people in this thread.
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How is he spinning anything? UFC went into a smaller arena so how where they hoping nobody would show up at Bellator? You are acting like they went into a 20k seat arena.

and whats Bellators gate? Its easy to get people in an arena when your most expensive ticket is still 25 dollars less than the UFC's cheapest and you have your 20 undercard fighters slaving away selling tickets for you.

I dont know about you but I'll take 4kl and 500k gate compared to 7k and a shit gate.


But like he said above you are the one spinning a shit gate but saying oh look they broke the attendance record. Like UFC doing a Cowboy stadium show and getting 100k people to break the mma attendance record but giving away half the tickets and charging 20 bucks for most.
 
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benjaminbuttons said:
lol Bellator charging High School Football ticket prices. Their attendance numbers was a way for them to spin the night, when Foxwoods is a much smaller venue.
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Then they dont even release teh gate cause, atleast UFC releases shit good or bad.
 
Atmosphere and production...

When I changed over to UFC, I felt I lost a bit in both categories.

How do others feel about that? That is likely what the more casuals will take away from the night.

(Cant wait for numbers. Anyone know where to get WWE SMackdown numbers too?)
 
Overall Bellator was more entertaining but UFC had better co-main and main event.
 
SBC said:
You are spinning it. Bellator pulled in the greatest gate the Mohegan Sun has ever had. The UFC was hoping that nobody would show up to Bellator's show simply because there was a UFC going on. Well that didn't happen. But you're very anti-Bellator pro UFC and always have been. Just like numerous people in this thread.
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Bellator fans are spinning it too. It's a business, and the purpose is making money. Bellator got 7000 people with (effectively) $12 tickets. The UFC got 4000 people with (again, effectively) $100 tickets. If you think it's better to have a gate of 82k than 400k, you're an idiot.

Both were good shows, and both have talent, but attendance doesn't matter if you don't make any money off of it.
 
clayj said:
So the average ticket price to the Bellator show was under $12. That's some county fair shit right there.
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I think I could have seen Mankind and Matt Hardy at a town fair near me for that price. :icon_lol:

I will agree that on television, it looked more packed for the Bellator show (as it was). I'm kind of surprised the UFC chose such a small venue. That would be like having Metallica play at a nightclub.

Either way, I was at home on the couch flipping between the two. No worries on my end.
 
Bellator had the biggest fight of the year by far and probably the best one this year as well as the main. Not that hard to believe they got those numbers.
 
Unless Coker decided to drastically lower the ticket prices for some reason (from what I've read, Bellator tickets have normally been, like, 50-70 bucks or so), I'm callin' bullshit on the 82K number. Bellator 102 (a much weaker card than 123) drew 1500 people, 600 of which were comped, and got a gate of 73K.

Unless, cuz' of the UFC event that was pretty close, Mohegan Sun may've decided to get some kinda deal goin' with Bellator to share some of their gambling profits for the night with every extra person they attracted for the Bellator event (in the end, making a tidy profit with 'dat gambling money), I highly doubt they lowered the prices to 10 bucks a pop. If they did and Mohegan Sun didn't (or they didn't figure out some kinda sneaky way to make some backdoor profits from attracting more people), Coker's tryin' to sink that ship fast and I'm buyin' some stock in the "Coker-UFC collusion".
 
I'm in the area and I didn't see anything that low for Bellator on ticket prices. I haven't watched the broadcast yet, but I was at the UFC show and the place was packed. A few empty seats in front of me (in the first 6-7 rows stage side) which I assumed were reserved for High Rollers that never picked them up.

UFC sold every ticket they had on a nationwide broadcast with a great main card, not sure how this is a loss for them.

Good for Bellator that they got 7K people 10-15 miles away however they did it. The only way to build a company is to put out a good product and maximize exposure. Sounds like the actual fights were good and hopefully the fight announcement farce didn't detract from that.
 
eseseses681 said:
Unless Coker decided to drastically lower the ticket prices for some reason (from what I've read, Bellator tickets have normally been, like, 50-70 bucks or so), I'm callin' bullshit on the 82K number. Bellator 102 (a much weaker card than 123) drew 1500 people, 600 of which were comped, and got a gate of 73K.

Unless, cuz' of the UFC event that was pretty close, Mohegan Sun may've decided to get some kinda deal goin' with Bellator to share some of their gambling profits for the night with every extra person they attracted for the Bellator event (in the end, making a tidy profit with 'dat gambling money), I highly doubt they lowered the prices to 10 bucks a pop. If they did and Mohegan Sun didn't (or they didn't figure out some kinda sneaky way to make some backdoor profits from attracting more people), Coker's tryin' to sink that ship fast and I'm buyin' some stock in the "Coker-UFC collusion".
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They aren't selling tickets at 12 really. A large portion of the crowd had to be comps. Bellator has also done buy one get 4 free in the past as well.

Also 82k is a decent gate for Bellator. They often get a lot less than that. Bellator rarely breaks 100k at the gate.
 
eseseses681 said:
Unless Coker decided to drastically lower the ticket prices for some reason (from what I've read, Bellator tickets have normally been, like, 50-70 bucks or so), I'm callin' bullshit on the 82K number. Bellator 102 (a much weaker card than 123) drew 1500 people, 600 of which were comped, and got a gate of 73K.

Unless, cuz' of the UFC event that was pretty close, Mohegan Sun may've decided to get some kinda deal goin' with Bellator to share some of their gambling profits for the night with every extra person they attracted for the Bellator event (in the end, making a tidy profit with 'dat gambling money), I highly doubt they lowered the prices to 10 bucks a pop. If they did and Mohegan Sun didn't (or they didn't figure out some kinda sneaky way to make some backdoor profits from attracting more people), Coker's tryin' to sink that ship fast and I'm buyin' some stock in the "Coker-UFC collusion".
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Tickets were 25-75, most of the tickets sold were from the undercard fights which is why Morgan said only 1500 tickets were sold because the other 5k was from the 20 undercard fighters and the casino comps.

Not sure if fighters get a discount on the tickets sold.

the 82k number is probably not true, probably doesnt count the fighters tickets sold but I'm guessing maybe 250k tops. Probably half what the UFC did or less but who knows if they will release it.
 
Heres why bellator did better
1. There card was anounced first before ufc's
2. The undercard fighters worked their butts off selling tickets and so did their gyms and familys
3.the local ces mma crowd went to bellators event instead of ufc's

4.Bellator had known fighters on the main card

One of the fighters on bellators card kin moy draws a decent crowd on his own
 
Bellator announced event first. UFC picked that location to compete head to head against Bellator. Bellator had bigger crowd, not just by a couple hundred either. Bellator wins popularity contest. End of story.
 
The cheapest seats for the UFC show were more expensive than cageside seats for the Bellator show
 
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