Belal out, one remaining UFC Champ from USA

[Captain Insano]

Americans are some of the softest people on the planet both mentally and physically

You've obviously never felt the inside of your mom's pussy

 

[Only Here for Attachments]

No way.

Go hard or go home.

If you ain't tearing your tv off the wall and pissing on it when your favorite loses, then your not living life to the fullest. Your not MMA'ing right.


The good times make the bad times worth it.

I used to be like that, really! I used to watch every press conference, every weigh-in, complete cards top to bottom, and anxiously wait for the post-fight conference. I would also be up fuming mad all night if one of my guys lost, or some other BS happened. Maybe it's the mood stabilizers talking, but I can't handle that stuff anymore. I still legitimately enjoy finishes, though, and GIFs of the same.

 

[HHJ]

I used to be like that, really! I used to watch every press conference, every weigh-in, complete cards top tto bottom, and anxiously wait for the post-fight conference. I would also be up fuming mad all night if one of my guys lost, or some other BS happened. Maybe it's the mood stabilizers talking, but I can't handle that stuff anymore. I still legitimately enjoy finishes, though, and GIFs of the same.

There ain't no stopping.


REEEEEEEE to the death!

 

[Dana's Conscience]

Do you think he will actually defend against Aspinall?

I used to be 80-90% confident. I'm down to like 50-60%.

The reality is that the UFC could quit being greedy pigs just once and make the fight happen by giving Jon 20-30 million flat. Make him sign an NDA if they want. Jon's not taking the fight for legacy or anything because I think he's starting to realize that he's always going to have detractors who will move the goalposts or harp on woulda coulda shouldas regardless of who he fights.

 

[El Fernas]

Isn't that kinda disgraceful that you don't care if the (soon to be) longest reigning heavyweight champ doesn't fight the longest reigning interim champ?

I feel like whether you're a Jones fan or not, you should want to see that HW title unification bout.

"Longest reign" shouldnt be a thing, he has only fought 1 time as champion, means nothing.

 

[Alpha_T83]

"Longest reign" shouldnt be a thing, he has only fought 1 time as champion, means nothing.

Completely agreed. It shouldn't be a metric we even count or acknowledge, because it has nothing to do with activity. The only metric that matters is # of title defenses.

Sadly everyone seems intent on using it, so I've given up.

 

[Alpha_T83]

I used to be 80-90% confident. I'm down to like 50-60%.

The reality is that the UFC could quit being greedy pigs just once and make the fight happen by giving Jon 20-30 million flat. Make him sign an NDA if they want. Jon's not taking the fight for legacy or anything because I think he's starting to realize that he's always going to have detractors who will move the goalposts or harp on woulda coulda shouldas regardless of who he fights.

A lot of different MMA insiders are saying the UFC has already given Jon Jones a $30M payday offer to take that fight. I'm inclined to believe it.

I honestly think Jon Jones plan is to hold out for the Ankalaev/Pereira rematch and hope Pereira wins, so he can push for a champ-champ fight with Pereira, and then sit out for another year. And Dana is enough of a scumbag to actually do it.

If I'm right, we will basically hear nothing until Ankalaev and Pereira rematch in August.

 

[TimeToTrain]

A lot of different MMA insiders are saying the UFC has already given Jon Jones a $30M payday offer to take that fight. I'm inclined to believe it.

I honestly think Jon Jones plan is to hold out for the Ankalaev/Pereira rematch and hope Pereira wins, so he can push for a champ-champ fight with Pereira, and then sit out for another year. And Dana is enough of a scumbag to actually do it.

If I'm right, we will basically hear nothing until Ankalaev and Pereira rematch in August.

In that case, as a Pereira fan it’s better for Ankalaev to win.

 

[Lycandroid]

You've obviously never felt the inside of your mom's pussy

I'm actually posting from inside the womb, I never made the journey down the tunnel, it looks scary out there.

 

[RockyLockridge]

Do you think he will actually defend against Aspinall?

absolutely he will and he will win

 

[TimeToTrain]

I knew some scumbag would make one of these threads. Euros still upset they have nobody.

De Ridder just beat the best American wrestler at 185 and called out the best American striker in that division. Champ or not, that is a lot of respect for the European.

 

[Alpha_T83]

absolutely he will and he will win

I actually agree with you that Jon Jones has a high chance of winning. That's why I find it so insane that he's trying to duck this fight.

If Jones beats Aspinall, then everything Aspinall accomplishes after Jones retires will ultimately get credited to Jon Jones in GOAT talks.

 

[Bend NvR Break]

Belal may represent Palestine but he’s from Illinois and he speaks English with an American accent. That’s why I consider him to be from the U.S.

Flyweight: Brazil
Bantamweight: Georgia
Featherweight: Australia
Lightweight: Russia
Welterweight: Australia
Middleweight: South Africa
LHW: Russia
HW: U.S.A. / England (interim)

How long will Jones hold the title for and represent the USA as the last USA champ? Interim champs are technically champs too, they just need to unify the belts.

Jones HW title defense: 1
Aspinall HW title defense as an interim: 1

I haven’t done research but this may be the first time in UFC history that there are no USA champs in any of the weight classes, if Jones vacates or loses the belt.

Barao - Brazil
Aldo - Brazil
RDA - Brazil
GSP - 51st state...I kid I kid I joke I joke...Canada
Silva - Brazil
Jon - USA
JDS - JDS

Wasn't there a time this was the championship line up?

 

[Dana's Conscience]

A lot of different MMA insiders are saying the UFC has already given Jon Jones a $30M payday offer to take that fight. I'm inclined to believe it.

I honestly think Jon Jones plan is to hold out for the Ankalaev/Pereira rematch and hope Pereira wins, so he can push for a champ-champ fight with Pereira, and then sit out for another year. And Dana is enough of a scumbag to actually do it.

If I'm right, we will basically hear nothing until Ankalaev and Pereira rematch in August.

Idk, I'm going to have to see receipts for that. I can't imagine Jon not taking it for some pie in the sky Pereira fight in 2026 that he'd get paid less for.

 

[Alpha_T83]

Idk, I'm going to have to see receipts for that. I can't imagine Jon not taking it for some pie in the sky Pereira fight in 2026 that he'd get paid less for.

I think Sonnen also said something similar, that the UFC were "doing their part" to make Jones vs Aspinall happen.

But as for your question about potentially taking less money to fight Pereira, it all depends on what Jon Jones' motivations are. If money is his only motivator, then you are correct. But if he's more motivated about minimizing risk, then Pereira is basically zero risk and he gets to keep the HW belt hostage for another 12 months.

 

[Clark Rogers]

God bless Jon Jones and his continued greatness.

 

[Pechan]

DEI champs

 

[bubbleboyjones]

Belal may represent Palestine but he’s from Illinois and he speaks English with an American accent. That’s why I consider him to be from the U.S.

Flyweight: Brazil
Bantamweight: Georgia
Featherweight: Australia
Lightweight: Russia
Welterweight: Australia
Middleweight: South Africa
LHW: Russia
HW: U.S.A. / England (interim)

How long will Jones hold the title for and represent the USA as the last USA champ? Interim champs are technically champs too, they just need to unify the belts.

Jones HW title defense: 1
Aspinall HW title defense as an interim: 1

I haven’t done research but this may be the first time in UFC history that there are no USA champs in any of the weight classes, if Jones vacates or loses the belt.

This is some bullshit. Thats why I watch a REAL American sport like WWE dominated by Americans

 

[Dana's Conscience]

I think Sonnen also said something similar, that the UFC were "doing their part" to make Jones vs Aspinall happen.

But as for your question about potentially taking less money to fight Pereira, it all depends on what Jon Jones' motivations are. If money is his only motivator, then you are correct. But if he's more motivated about minimizing risk, then Pereira is basically zero risk and he gets to keep the HW belt hostage for another 12 months.

I appreciate you sending me this as a way of reinforcing what you said, but here's why I'm going to stick to my last comment.

1. I get that while Ariel definitely can get insider info that a lot of people can't, "people I've been talking to." isn't a receipt. If he had been talking to someone very close to the situation who would give him something he could say in very good faith (or talking to someone with access to a person like that), he would say that (even then, we'd still just be taking his word for it).

2. It's clear that Jon could sign a dotted line tomorrow, but the UFC could strip him too. What Ariel is saying isn't making sense. If the UFC had met Jon's demands, why isn't he signing it? That's Even if Jon had a ducking price like 100 million dollars, he has a price. The UFC has a price too that they absolutely won't surpass under any circumstances (to save a PPV or whatever). My point is that these two are still jockeying for leverage and that the UFC should F off for once and stop doing that. Meet Jon's current demand and get him to sign or give Jon their absolute max and strip him if he says no. We get a fight date or we move on. The UFC could end this tomorrow if they were willing to stop trying to stay below their max as much as they can. I'd say Jon could end this tomorrow by relinquishing the belt but he hasn't because he still has a price. Realistic or not, he has one.

3. Speaking of Jon's demand, Ariel didn't say anything about the UFC offering him $30 million, so toss that out. He said that's what Jon had floated once. Maybe Jon's still asking that. Maybe's he's asking less. Maybe he's asking more (nothing to suggest he is). Pay him, pay him, or strip him.

 

[Alpha_T83]

I appreciate you sending me this as a way of reinforcing what you said, but here's why I'm going to stick to my last comment.

1. I get that while Ariel definitely can get insider info that a lot of people can't, "people I've been talking to." isn't a receipt. If he had been talking to someone very close to the situation who would give him something he could say in very good faith (or talking to someone with access to a person like that), he would say that (even then, we'd still just be taking his word for it).

2. It's clear that Jon could sign a dotted line tomorrow, but the UFC could strip him too. What Ariel is saying isn't making sense. If the UFC had met Jon's demands, why isn't he signing it? That's Even if Jon had a ducking price like 100 million dollars, he has a price. The UFC has a price too that they absolutely won't surpass under any circumstances (to save a PPV or whatever). My point is that these two are still jockeying for leverage and that the UFC should F off for once and stop doing that. Meet Jon's current demand and get him to sign or give Jon their absolute max and strip him if he says no. We get a fight date or we move on. The UFC could end this tomorrow if they were willing to stop trying to stay below their max as much as they can. I'd say Jon could end this tomorrow by relinquishing the belt but he hasn't because he still has a price. Realistic or not, he has one.

3. Speaking of Jon's demand, Ariel didn't say anything about the UFC offering him $30 million, so toss that out. He said that's what Jon had floated once. Maybe Jon's still asking that. Maybe's he's asking less. Maybe he's asking more (nothing to suggest he is). Pay him, pay him, or strip him.

Sadly we will never know exactly what is being offered to Jon Jones. However, I am fairly sure the UFC is offering him the absolute most money they will be willing to offer him. So at this point it must be a "take it or leave it" offer, regardless of how much it is.

At the end of the day we just have to wait and see if Jon defends, vacates, or gets stripped.