Social Being Bribed to get the vaccine?

[GoldenWolf87]

I can tell you with 100% certainty, that the long term effects of either the mRNA vaccines will be nothing compared to the potential long term effects of contracting the actual virus.

Looks like the 24/7 fear mongering on the news about the actual virus has worked on you. If you want to live in fear over this thing fine. But i still wont be taking this RNA experimental jab.

 

[luckyshot]

Definitely in companies it’s worth it. Guy out for an hour to get a shot getting some extra pto vs losing an employee for 2 weeks if they catch covid? Companies purely from a trade off perspective should be giving out 1k bonuses or 3 days pto to have an immune workforce.

Also, stop using the unproven line lol. 44k people monitored for for multiple months. 78 million doses of vaccine given out so far in the US. A few instances of high allergy people having allergic reactions and a few flukey faints.

You want to ask if maybe something somehow lies dormant for 20 years and could pop up sure. But do you wait 20 years before trying any fda approved drug?

Stop lying to the people!!!!

You are globalism !!!

The vaccines are thought control !!!

They will make you tiny and liberal !!!

( @Sketch am I doing it right?)

 

[luckyshot]

I mean, based on the experience of people I know who’ve had the vaccine, he’s going to need at least that 1/2 off and probably more.

My wife is a nurse. Got Moderna vaccine. First shot was nothing. Second shot was under the weather for less than 24 hours. Her experience matches all her colleagues.

I got my first shot yesterday. Arm is tender at injection site, just like the flu shot. I am getting the second shot in a month. Scheduled it for a Saturday afternoon so I can watch Netflix for the rest of the day if I feel lousy.

 

[Fedorisbest]

If you're healthy you should be fine. Nice incentive

 

[HockeyBjj]

My wife is a nurse. Got Moderna vaccine. First shot was nothing. Second shot was under the weather for less than 24 hours. Her experience matches all her colleagues.

Mom an ICU nurse. Same thing. nothing from first shot. 2nd shot she felt pretty tired that evening and worried it would get worse took the following day off work. She probably could have powered through it but still felt pretty crummy the next day but then was fine by dinner.

I got my first (Pfizer) shot. 2nd one in 6 days. I'll let the lounge know how a proper 6 foot 6, 255 pound 8% fat Sherdogger handles the 2nd Rona shot

 

[Senzo Tanaka]

Well, the incentive for the company is that their staff is vaccinated. It also saves them money by not losing people to sickness if they get sick.

There's nothing really special about COVID-19 other than we were caught unprepared. There are a ton of different ways to make a vaccine and they are all proven. Honestly, the Moderna and J&J COVID-19 vaccinations are probably some of the safest vaccines on paper. They aren't injecting you with the virus like some vaccines. With one, it's basically like upgrading your body's firmware and giving it a set of instructions on how to fight it. With the other, it's using a dummy/harmless virus to mimic COVID-19.

While the first is new technology, it's basically open source and there's nothing to hide how it works.

I'm in no rush to get it since I'm healthy and never get sick but I'll certainly get it when it's widely available. It's supposed to be free for anyone that wants. You should be able to go to CVS/Walgreens later this year and they bill the government.

 

[Cherry Brigand]

8% fat

 

[Cherry Brigand]

The most troubling thing here is that you believe you should advise your buddy on a topic that you have zero knowledge.

Im sure you have a PhD in every topic you get asked about right, douchey? And then you go on to say

If it's the Pfizer or Moderna vaccine, get it. If it's anything else, give it a pass. Easy.

Unless you are a virologist or immunologist then you're the biggest hypocrite on planet earth. Douchey!

 

[Sketch]

So a buddy of mine just informed me that the company he works for is offering them extra PTO (1/2 a day) to anyone who gets the vaccine. They have also offered to cover any costs of the vaccine. This seems pretty cool to me, buuuuut...

Personally, I'm no anti-vaxxer, I've had all my shots, but I do avoid the flu shot because it's been wholly unnecessary for me, and I think the rush to get this vaccine into people makes it dangerous in a lot of ways with regard to long term side effects, and so on. So I'm not sure how to advise him.

Is 4x his hourly rate worth the risk of an unproven vaccine? Thoughts?

It’s definitely dangerous. Don’t let people make you think otherwise. This is an experimental vaccine they rushed to get out. I’m only taking it once I’m forced to.

 

[CatchnShoot]

Looks like the 24/7 fear mongering on the news about the actual virus has worked on you. If you want to live in fear over this thing fine. But i still wont be taking this RNA experimental jab.

Nope, just a basic understanding of biology and virology.... look into it.

 

[CatchnShoot]

You really can't, considering that there's no data for long term effects for either. You've got some lingering effects for COVID on record, but it's far from the rule. Millions and millions of people have contracted it with little to no issues at all.

I actually can.

Look at how mRNA works in your body, and you will discover an absolute absence of persistent side effects. The persistent effects will be the presence of specific antibodies. I can NOT say the same for any of the viral vector vaccines such as the J&J and AstraZeneca vaccines.

Then, take a look at how a virus works, where you can have a wide array of permanent or at the least very long lasting effects. In some cases presenting in vastly different disease states, including various forms of cancer. Additionally, the introduction of a viral vector CAN actually migrate into your DNA and change your fundamental code going forward. Genes can migrate, mRNA can not.

Look into it.

 

[Rocco Siffredi]

So a buddy of mine just informed me that the company he works for is offering them extra PTO (1/2 a day) to anyone who gets the vaccine. They have also offered to cover any costs of the vaccine. This seems pretty cool to me, buuuuut...

Personally, I'm no anti-vaxxer, I've had all my shots, but I do avoid the flu shot because it's been wholly unnecessary for me, and I think the rush to get this vaccine into people makes it dangerous in a lot of ways with regard to long term side effects, and so on. So I'm not sure how to advise him.

Is 4x his hourly rate worth the risk of an unproven vaccine? Thoughts?

I am holding out until my company buys me some asian snatch.

 

[GoldenWolf87]

Nope, just a basic understanding of biology and virology.... look into it.

Right. You mean the same Media that says that lockdowns should continue to and that you have to wear two facial mask coverings now?

 

[HereticBD]

I actually can.

No, you actually can't. There is no data on it. Not even doctors are willing to commit to predicting any long term effects from the vaccine, because...wait for it...they can't possibly know, because the data doesn't exist.

Now, if you're talking about mere side-effects, that's a different story. Long term though, nobody has a clue.

 

[Derousey]

Bribed? more like being accommodating...

 

[BudKing8806]

My agency was offering a day of PTO and 50 bucks to get one. I said no thanks. I won't be getting one anytime soon.

 

[CatchnShoot]

No, you actually can't. There is no data on it. Not even doctors are willing to commit to predicting any long term effects from the vaccine, because...wait for it...they can't possibly know, because the data doesn't exist.

Now, if you're talking about mere side-effects, that's a different story. Long term though, nobody has a clue.

The side effect profile of these lipid mRNA molecules seems to be a fair bit greater then with traditional non-adjuvant vaccines (This is related not to the mRNA itself, but rather the vehicle to keep it intact to get to target), but long term anybody with a fundamental understanding of mRNA function in vivo knows exactly what to expect... there will be nada because the mRNA is extremely fragile and does not persist in vivo, nor is there any migration into host DNA. The worry was never safety with these, it was efficacy, and as it turns out they are knocking it out of the park in that respect as well.

If you know any genetic researchers ask them. Most GP's will be clueless.

 

[daPROFESSOR]

Unfortunately we may have to use bribery in America to keep the rest of us safe. Too many dumb fucks don't want to take it, but we still need to achieve herd immunity. We will have to buy them off if we have to. I suggest the government offer to pay one month of trailer park fees for any anti vaxers that get vaccinated.

define herd immunity please

 

[Deleted member 499399]

Every person I know in the medical industry took it already. But then some conspiracy theorists on a karate forum said not to so I'm not sure what to do.

 

[Billy no mates]

So a buddy of mine just informed me that the company he works for is offering them extra PTO (1/2 a day) to anyone who gets the vaccine. They have also offered to cover any costs of the vaccine. This seems pretty cool to me, buuuuut...

Personally, I'm no anti-vaxxer, I've had all my shots, but I do avoid the flu shot because it's been wholly unnecessary for me, and I think the rush to get this vaccine into people makes it dangerous in a lot of ways with regard to long term side effects, and so on. So I'm not sure how to advise him.

Is 4x his hourly rate worth the risk of an unproven vaccine? Thoughts?

It is to his employer and it maybe for the more long sighted employees there too , if the company like many others is just barely getting by the last thing they need is to deal with a Corona virus case on the premises and all the fuckeration it will inevitably cause , your mate should be grateful for the enlightened self interest shown by his employers .