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BATMAN V SUPERMAN Thread v.12

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I don't watch many comic book movies, so I can only compare it to the ones I have seen. I liked it about as much as I liked Deadpool, and I also compared it to Avengers: Age of Ultron, is that one of the worst also? Like I said, I've only seen maybe 15% of the comic book movies that have come out.

I thought age of ultron was pretty good. The biggest issue I had with that is the villain wasn't strong enough, which is the biggest issue I have with comic book movies in general. The main villain isn't allowed to look like a threat or win any fights or ko anybody. It's annoying.


I thought Deadpool was very good, very well done gave it an 8/10
 
I would really like to know the behind the scenes stuff about this movie. Ever since this project was announced I was convinced that WB started forcing Snyder to throw in everything in this movie just so they can have their Justice Leauge. Snyder should be thankfull we live in a superhero movie era where more or less any superhero movie makes money, no matter how horrible it is, Fant-four-stic being the sole exeption here. With that being said, I think the only reason this movie didn't bury the whole DC universe is because it hit a specific niche. This is the first time Batman and Superman(and WonderWoman) share a live action movie together. The same argument goes for the JL movie. It's gonna be the first time all these characters interact with each other and share the big screen without being glorified cameos. No matter how horrid BvS was or how equally bad a JL has the potential to be. It's gonna be the first time they all share the big screen. People want to see it.
 
The Dawn of Disappointment is almost behind us and it's nearly time for Civil War. I hear Civil War's embargo on reviews might be removed early. That's great news. If that's the case, it's got to be phenomenal.
 
The Dawn of Disappointment is almost behind us and it's nearly time for Civil War. I hear Civil War's embargo on reviews might be removed early. That's great news. If that's the case, it's got to be phenomenal.

A sign of confidence in the finished product. The trailer was completely insane and I hear there are some huge surprises no one has seen.
 
Another great thing about BvS is we got to see the trinity all battle against Doomsday together(although for obvious reasons Batfleck couldn't do much), I hated that the Avengers never all got to battle the big bad altogether.
The final scene between Doomsday and Superman being an almost frame by frame homage to 1981's Excalibur(which was showing on the playbill when the Wayne's were gun downed) was an excellent nod to Arthurian themese that were ever present within the story.
 
Update: April 8, 2016

JUSTICE LEAGUE Reportedly Will Be More Crowd-Pleasing Than Previous DCEU Movies


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Variety's Kristopher Tapley wrote: "When I finally caved for a second viewing of Zack Snyder’s Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice, I spotted only six or seven other people in the theater. Even following a dramatic 69% second weekend drop, I couldn’t believe my eyes.

This is Batman v Superman, a blockbuster event meant to jump-start an entire cinematic universe, yet in its 13th day of release, the superhero pic mustered only $2.8 million, a number that couldn’t even match Marvel’s Ant-Man ($3 million) or Snyder’s previous foray Man of Steel ($4 million). It was a heavily front-loaded release, to be sure: a $166 million opening was a rallying cry for proponents in the face of countless critical pans. But at this point, hitting the magic $1 billion figure in worldwide grosses seems to be out of reach.

If all the recent release date shuffling and rumored restructuring of the Warner Bros. status quo didn’t make it clear, those numbers certainly should: They’re close to hitting the panic button in Burbank this week.

A report from The Hollywood Reporter suggest an ongoing culture shift at the studio, with fewer original titles being greenlit as WB doubles down on franchise generators like DC Comics, Lego and Harry Potter. Certainly there’s a fever, what with Disney printing money from the Star Wars and Marvel hit parade. But the hot seat is getting hotter, as this is the year Warner chairman and CEO Kevin Tsujihara’s chickens come home to roost.

Ben Affleck was cast in August 2013, and soon enough, he brought on Oscar-winning Argo scribe Chris Terrio to help turn the project into a thoughtful exploration of the comic book ethos. That was going to be crucial, given that Snyder is obsessed with iconography, a visualist more than a storyteller. Inevitably, though, the film became more of a corporate vision. It was given an utterly ridiculous title that bent over backwards to cram in three keywords — Batman, Superman and Justice (League) — and mandates were put forth to lay the groundwork. But underneath the promotional noise, a real attempt was being made to dabble in DC’s philosophical bedrock and deconstruct the tendencies of comic book cinema.

Nevertheless, we’re left with a movie in which a central character [Wonder Woman] literally sits down to watch trailers for three other movies. Batman v Superman is bursting at the seams, desperate to make up the ground DC has lost to Marvel over the past seven years. You can almost picture the boardroom meeting: “We need our Avengers now.”

In truth, the studio had a 40-year head start on Marvel. DC has been under the Warner banner ever since being folded into Warner Communications way back in 1969. Nobody quite saw this brave new world of grossly conglomerated media coming, but with a stronger vision, Warners could have been way out ahead of the game.

And that’s what seems to be missing: overriding vision. When you’re dealing with something as ungainly as an entire comic book universe, a certain amount of oversight — artistically invested, not corporate — feels only necessary. So the big problem, as far as I see it, remains this lack of a central node, someone akin to Marvel’s Kevin Feige who is intimately attuned to the source material, drawing the various strings together.

Snyder has been making the bulk of the creative decisions. And he has provided the fans with a lot of the imagery they want to see. But as skilled as Snyder is at capturing a striking frame, he just isn’t the guy to pull all of this narrative complexity together.

As for Batman v Superman, those involved weren’t prepared for the critical knives the film received, but they always knew it was going to be a transitional film, bridging the gap between Man of Steel (which was produced with no plan in place to expand the universe) and anything approaching the Avengers mold. But I’m told “Justice League” will be a crowd-pleaser more suited to Snyder’s talents, and that the upcoming two-part event is “extremely kinetic and visual.” It will be far more straightforward than existential in its handling of superheroes."

‘Batman v Superman’: Where’s the Superhero Suit at Warner Bros.?
 
Another great thing about BvS is we got to see the trinity all battle against Doomsday together(although for obvious reasons Batfleck couldn't do much), I hated that the Avengers never all got to battle the big bad altogether.
The final scene between Doomsday and Superman being an almost frame by frame homage to 1981's Excalibur(which was showing on the playbill when the Wayne's were gun downed) was an excellent nod to Arthurian themese that were ever present within the story.

yeah the fight scene is awesome .

when WW shows up the whole place goes crazy.
 
I thought age of ultron was pretty good. The biggest issue I had with that is the villain wasn't strong enough, which is the biggest issue I have with comic book movies in general. The main villain isn't allowed to look like a threat or win any fights or ko anybody. It's annoying.


I thought Deadpool was very good, very well done gave it an 8/10

Agreed 100% on Comic villains. They're all pretty bland except for the Joker.
 
I would really like to know the behind the scenes stuff about this movie. Ever since this project was announced I was convinced that WB started forcing Snyder to throw in everything in this movie just so they can have their Justice Leauge. Snyder should be thankfull we live in a superhero movie era where more or less any superhero movie makes money, no matter how horrible it is, Fant-four-stic being the sole exeption here. With that being said, I think the only reason this movie didn't bury the whole DC universe is because it hit a specific niche. This is the first time Batman and Superman(and WonderWoman) share a live action movie together. The same argument goes for the JL movie. It's gonna be the first time all these characters interact with each other and share the big screen without being glorified cameos. No matter how horrid BvS was or how equally bad a JL has the potential to be. It's gonna be the first time they all share the big screen. People want to see it.

or maybe, many people think its good - great, like most people in here, and most people IMBD.

and also the audience in RT think its 7/10

can people who don't like the movie not assume that the movie sucks.

if you don't like, its mean you don't like it, it doesn't mean it sucks for everybody.

it was way better than anything Marvel ever produce, except GOTG or Avengers.
 
or maybe, many people think its good - great, like most people in here, and most people IMBD.

and also the audience in RT think its 7/10

can people who don't like the movie not assume that the movie sucks.

if you don't like, its mean you don't like it, it doesn't mean it sucks for everybody.

it was way better than anything Marvel ever produce, except GOTG or Avengers.

I kinda liked the movie, it had flaws, I wanted more out of it, but the bottom line is It was enjoyable. But let's not get carried away here. It having a 70% audience aproval doesn't mean that they're crazy about it

I stand by my initial statement. The movie is all over the place and has a lot of problems but it's unique concept and Oscar level cast and good production keep it's head above the water. Same goes for JL. Terrio is Oscar winning writter, Affleck can act the shit out of Batman, Khal Drogo has potential to be a great Aquaman and Gadot is getting there as Wonder Woman and I still belive in Zack Snyder. However, as BvS shows, things can go south pretty damn fast. JL could potentially be the best comic book movie ever made, but it could also be the worst one. If Darkseid does end up being the big bad of JL movie, they have to be really carefull with how they create him. One thing I've learned over the years is that comic book fans do not like when you fuck with the lore and Darkseid bring a very complicated story with him. We have to wait 'till comiccon to see how things stand, DC will 100% have some teasers about their future projects.
 
yeah the fight scene is awesome .

when WW shows up the whole place goes crazy.

"Careful, he is from another worlds"

"I have killed things from other worlds before"

WW was a bamf. Such a great line. Hopefully her stand alone will be awesome, I am confident it will be. Movie was very medicore. Wish Bats did a little more in the Doomsday fight.
 
I have to ask... Am I the only one who found the action sequences themselves to be a bit underwhelming? Particularly the actual fight between Batman and Superman?
 
I have to ask... Am I the only one who found the action sequences themselves to be a bit underwhelming? Particularly the actual fight between Batman and Superman?

well i think the fight scene is well done, you can't expect sup and bat to just brawl it out, since one of them is so overpowered.

its a typical fight between Human vs Superheroes.

similar to this.

 
well i think the fight scene is well done, you can't expect sup and bat to just brawl it out, since one of them is so overpowered.

its a typical fight between Human vs Superheroes.

similar to this.



Meh, he did a fair number on the whole Justice League with the Justice Buster suit in the comics. The fight was a *hell* of a lot less of a mismatch than the one in the movie.

The scenes were OK, not great. It fell into the old Superman trope of "Superman winning stomping beating down OH KRYPTONITE now he's helpless" which is one that the actual source material only relies on situationally. It was mainly healthy-Superman toys with batman, sick Superman gets stomped on by Batman. Again, letdown - there just wasn't that much of an actual fight and the very source material this fight comes from has Batman putting up *way* more of a fight VS Superman.
 
When BvS opened, my local cinema was showing it on multiple screens. The earliest showing was 9am. On Monday, when I'll be going, the earliest showing is 10:50am and it's only showing on a single screen.
 
The Dawn of Disappointment is almost behind us and it's nearly time for Civil War. I hear Civil War's embargo on reviews might be removed early. That's great news. If that's the case, it's got to be phenomenal.

A sign of confidence in the finished product. The trailer was completely insane and I hear there are some huge surprises no one has seen.

First Twitter reactions for Captain America: Civil War:

http://forums.sherdog.com/posts/115463553/

 
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