BATMAN V SUPERMAN (Dragonlord's Review, post #1)

[j123]

-Superman being a plot device rather than a character
-Lex being more Joker like, has no real motivation as the main antagonist. Basically he doesn't like superman and compares him to teh devil or evil, etc
-Batman going full tard in detective work
-Wonder woman really having no place in the film, like another poster said, she could be removed, and there'd be no difference
-DC trying to keep up with Marvel and blew their load with this film. At least the Marvel films gave time to build the characters with their own individual films, here it was rushed
-Ancient Kryptonian tech which is light years ahead of ours, and isn't able to distinguish the difference between the real Zod and Lex with finger prints taped onto hands... so much for top tier tech and AI (robot in the ship)
-The dream/nightmare Batman has.
-The Martha thing. That was crafty though, I didn't pick up on that.

But I'm not gonna lie, I actually liked liked the darker, gritty, murderous batman.
There was the scene with Robin's uniform that had the words spray-painted on: "The last joke's on you" or something along those lines. It could be that film is set after The Killing Joke where he kills off Joker, after Joker kills off Robin. If going by that, it could be that he gave up on the whole not killing moral compass, and went full murder bat mode.

 

[HARRISON_3]

Two Martha's don't make a right.

 

[CoolB]

 

[BisexualMMA]

ITT I learned the bottom row of Henry Cavill's teeth isn't perfect.

 

[MadSquabbles500]

If you want an honest answer to your question, here are my reasons off the top of my head:

- Wonder Woman was completely extraneous to the plot. Remove her and nothing changes.
- Wonder Woman took away and distracted from the central theme of Batman vs Superman.
- Batman vs Superman was more than enough for a full movie on its own.
- Aquaman, Flash and Cyborg introduced by fucking e-mail attachment?
- So the only reason Batman and Wonder Woman ever hear of these people is because they were on Lex Luthor's hard drive?
- Jesse Eisenberg's performance.
- Why did you say that name?!??!?!?!
- Jesse Eisenberg's performance.
- Dream sequence inside a dream sequence.
- So Superman's ship can create the undead?
- So Lex Luthor dripping his blood into an alien jacuzzi turns dead Zod into Doomsday? WTF? Without hinting at any of this beforehand?
- Why is Luthor even doing any of the shit he is doing? Does anyone know?
- Jesse Eisenberg's performance.
- Never see Wonder Woman's lasso or know she has one until we cut to it already around Doomsday.
- Ding! Ding! Ding! He's coming!!!

Etc., etc.

All these issues have their equivalent in each of the MCU movies, yet no one is constantly ripping on Marvel.

 

[BisexualMMA]

All these issues have their equivalent in MCU, yet no one is constantly ripping on Marvel.

I know that nothing in Marvel has been as bad as Eisenberg's Luthor.

As for the rest, I don't recall things being as poorly set up or poorly introduced. But I think plenty of Marvel movies are complete shit. I didn't even finish the first Thor.

 

[CoolB]

All these issues have their equivalent in each of the MCU movies, yet no one is constantly ripping on Marvel.

I wonder why? Is it possible they are generally received better by audiences and reviewers?

 

[MadSquabbles500]

I wonder why? Is it possible they are generally received better by audiences and reviewers?

Paid critics maybe. I dont know about audiences. They just dont seem to talk much about it at.

 

[CoolB]

Paid critics maybe. I dont know about audiences. They just dont seem to talk much about it at.

It's no conspiracy. Marvel movies are more fun and far better received by audiences and most reviewers.

I don't get the "not talking about it" part. Here we are on a DC movie thread talking about marvel.

 

[MadSquabbles500]

It's no conspiracy. Marvel movies are more fun and far better received by audiences and most reviewers.

I don't get the "not talking about it" part. Here we are on a DC movie thread talking about marvel.

BVS seems to get way more attention from haters than any other movie gets from its haters. There is no way BVS is any worse than some of the crappy comic book movies.

 

[KONG-D'SNT-TAP]

s'what I'm saying. They had more than enough time to make it not suck.

It wasn't even that it was "bad" per se. It just wasn't very good.

If you watch the movie there are great concepts and moments throughout it. It's just that it didn't need to be in 1 film.

The god imagery based on superman would've been very interesting if it was in its own movie. Superman needed his own movie with that concept and it would've worked perfectly.

Batman needed his own movie as well.


Plus Lex Luthor was written like a corn ball

 

[Deleted member 429137]

I'm excited to see it again.

I enjoyed it and rated it quite highly when I saw it. It was completely unpredictable to me, I was interested in the characters, and Zack Snyder managed to not do all the things I hate about his movies. He even managed to make Man of Steel less stupid with the way he handled things here.

BvS seemed liked the best possible BvS movie we could get. If Marvel didn't set the bar so high with patient storytelling and their ability to bring the most loved qualities of each character to the screen, BvS would have been seen as a great comic book movie.

There have been a few comic book movies I was dazzled with the first time, but upon my second viewing my fanboy blinders were gone and I was thinking, "This is fucking garbage." I'm curious to see if BvS is one of those types of movies.

 

[biscuitsbrah]

Not to mention the dialogue is either super cringey or the punchlines of the jokes goes completely over most peoples heads. Eisenbergs lines he was given was terrible.

 

[Frode Falch]

I get hated because people have different taste in movies. But also because people are sheeps.

I watched it with a open mind. And i liked it.

 

[CoolB]

BVS seems to get way more attention from haters than any other movie gets from its haters. There is no way BVS is any worse than some of the crappy comic book movies.

I get what your saying but I still think it's all about the fun factor. Marvel movies are just plain more fun.

 

[heavyarms21]

Mad Squabble and his war against Marvel. Waaaaaah

 

[CoolB]

I'm excited to see it again.

I enjoyed it and rated it quite highly when I saw it. It was completely unpredictable to me, I was interested in the characters, and Zack Snyder managed to not do all the things I hate about his movies. He even managed to make Man of Steel less stupid with the way he handled things here.

BvS seemed liked the best possible BvS movie we could get. If Marvel didn't set the bar so high with patient storytelling and their ability to bring the most loved qualities of each character to the screen, BvS would have been seen as a great comic book movie.

There have been a few comic book movies I was dazzled with the first time, but upon my second viewing my fanboy blinders were gone and I was thinking, "This is fucking garbage." I'm curious to see if BvS is one of those types of movies.

I think I liked it better the second time around. I didn't have the expectations obviously and just watching it casually kinda of made it more likable.

 

[KONG-D'SNT-TAP]

BVS employed the "everyone in power is stupid" concept.

The typical " all politicians are clueless, dumb, and ungrateful, and all army intelligence is pathetic."

For most of the movie they thought superman used a gun to kill terrorists.

Like they all missed him destroying super aliens from deep space without s gun but to kill humans he needs a gun with special bullets.

The movie just had so many stupid concepts in it

 

[KONG-D'SNT-TAP]

The best part of the movie was the scene in Mexico where superman drops off the survivor of the warehouse fire and they all try and touch him like a god.

If they went that route in a stand alone superman movie things would've been great.

 

[KONG-D'SNT-TAP]

Plus all the other don't bad stuff.

All of batmans computer devices have giant timers on them and all his locator devices blink red And make a noise.

I mean how fucking dumb does it get.