Bader is a free agent with a few fights left and UFC HW is a mess

Bader has like a 90% chance of beating Black Beast, even by KO.

Lewis has a harder right hand.

It would be a bad business decision to not pick up Bader when he's a free agent.
Delusional. Lewis has a long history of beating weak-chinned guys like Bader, even if he's losing the fight up the point of the KO. At this point Bader is a very low grade imitation of Blaydes at best.
 
No, I wouldn't be calling Bader a potential Top 5 HW if he came back to the UFC. You're the one drinking Worldwide, Anti-UFC Kool-Aid.

Late 90s guys in their primes are very different than an ancient, chinless Bader who probably can't wrestle that well either these days. Your back and knees tend to go after a few decades of wrestling. Look at Askren when he was only like 34.

With that said, Randleman was a 0.500 career fighter (17-16) and lost almost off of his important fights. He wouldn't do well at HW where he'd be undersized, and wouldn't sniff the LHW belt either. Bas would be interesting, but he'd also fit in better at LHW and would be dwarfed by someone like Aspinall. Rizzo would be the most interesting of the 3, though he often lacked aggression. I'd still like to see him vs. a modern striker like Gane, Aspinall or Volkov, though, and have mentioned that before.
If I'm going off of what Bader has done in the last 5 years I would easily say he looks better than 90% of the UFC HW division, he won the Bellator HW tournament had wins over Machida, Moldavsky, Kongo his losses were to Renan who I think is the best prospect at HW and Nemkov that's not something to look down upon, his wrestling alone would give almost the entire division serious problem as UFC doesn't care about having grapplers let alone high level wrestlers they have guys like Gane who can't grapple and basically it's a division of strikers and brawlers, NYE will be an indicator of what Bader is capable of if he wins the Rizin HW title he still is really good imo if he loses to Soldatkin than I would agree he may want to consider retirement.

Randleman by the time he made it to Pride he was badly regressing I'm referring to UFC Randleman who was a HW champ that version of him had really great TD's and top control that version could definitely beat I'd say 95% of the guys now just based on TD's and top control, Bas would fukking smoke all of these guys including Tom actually this type of division full of brawlers would be perfect for Bas and his skills I totally would see him as a champ, Rizzo is like Gane but with one shot KO power and ya there's some knocks on him like he can be passive but again this division at least imo doesn't have the killers in it of years past.
 
HE just signed with Rizin to fight for their HW title, he aint coming back to UFC. Yeah theres some fights you could do, Lewis, Pav, Blaydes but he'd probably end up in the Tuivasa/Tallison kind of fights on some apex card.
 
Yes please. He’s got skills and isn’t a can. He’s a good gate keeper if nothing else
 
Delusional. Lewis has a long history of beating weak-chinned guys like Bader, even if he's losing the fight up the point of the KO. At this point Bader is a very low grade imitation of Blaydes at best.


You do know that despite losing to him, Curtis is a better fighter than Lewis, yes?

Black Beasts' biggest wins are Blaydes, Browne and Volkov. I can't remember the Blaydes fight, though I do recall Volkov handling him until the KO.

This coming from a guy who thinks Derrick is funny af.


Bader has beaten Lil Nog X2, Shodo X2, Jardine, Rampage, Hashad, Phil Davis, Lyoto and Kongo while capturing belts.

I think Bader has done enough to give him more credit than you're giving him.

Also as a Blaydes supporter, Curtis isn't on that level, though it would be awesome to see him get there.
 
If I'm going off of what Bader has done in the last 5 years I would easily say he looks better than 90% of the UFC HW division, he won the Bellator HW tournament had wins over Machida, Moldavsky, Kongo his losses were to Renan
I love Lyoto but Machida belonged in MW and was 43 when Bader beat him. Kongo was 47. Bader also got KO'd by Corey Anderson and pretty much everyone else decent who wasn't middle-aged. Moldavsky is a flop. Renan is a big guy who hits hard like Derrick Lewis. Delija and Ngannou (who lost to Lewis) exposed Renan big time.

The rest of your post was equally asinine. Randleman wasn't too old when he went to Pride. He was around 30-31 and as athletic as ever. He just had a very limited Hammer House skillset and poor Fight IQ. And no, the 1996 Randleman (who was annihilated by Tom Erickson) wouldn't dominate the UFC either. He'd fight someone like Valter and get heel hooked (Randleman had no submission defense) and not even make it to the contender level. And 200-pound Bas wouldn't be destroying Aspinall and Gane. I love 90's NHB but you're living in a fantasy world.
 
Bader has beaten Lil Nog X2, Shodo X2, Jardine, Rampage, Hashad, Phil Davis, Lyoto and Kongo while capturing belts.
Most of those guys (Machida rematch, Lil Nog, Kongo, even Rampage) were well past their best days when Bader beat them. He was also finished 5 times in the UFC during his Prime, and KO'd multiple times since he went to Bellator. Bader was terrified of Rumble who KO'd him in seconds. He'd have the same fearful response against Lewis or anyone else with one-punch KO power. Don't forget, Machida straight left'd him into the shadowlands the first time they fought when Machida was only a little past his prime.

I've always kind of liked Bader, BTW, so it's not about hating him. But he has clear weaknesses and they'll be more obvious when he's older and slower.
 
I love Lyoto but Machida belonged in MW and was 43 when Bader beat him. Kongo was 47. Bader also got KO'd by Corey Anderson and pretty much everyone else decent who wasn't middle-aged. Moldavsky is a flop. Renan is a big guy who hits hard like Derrick Lewis. Delija and Ngannou (who lost to Lewis) exposed Renan big time.

The rest of your post was equally asinine. Randleman wasn't too old when he went to Pride. He was around 30-31 and as athletic as ever. He just had a very limited Hammer House skillset and poor Fight IQ. And no, the 1996 Randleman (who was annihilated by Tom Erickson) wouldn't dominate the UFC either. He'd fight someone like Valter and get heel hooked (Randleman had no submission defense) and not even make it to the contender level. And 200-pound Bas wouldn't be destroying Aspinall and Gane. I love 90's NHB but you're living in a fantasy world.
Bader was like 38 when he beat Machida so what and Kongo yes he was in his 40s however he was one of the very few fighters that was great when he was older from 2015 to 2020 he was on an 8 fight win streak over Minakov, Volkov, Vinicius Queiroz, Tony Johnson, Augusto Sakai, Javy Ayala, Tim Johnson that's a fantastic streak imo, after that he loses a close decision to Johnson gets a win over Kharitonov who was past it still good and then loses a decision to Bader sorry but you're dead wrong about Kongo and I don't gaf about his age either, Moldavsky is not the most exciting fighter but is still a top guy whether you like it or not and he would do more than fine in current UFC I'm positive of it he beat Delija by stoppage and Ayala, Nelson, Johnson, I don't know sounds to me like you only give credit if someone is in UFC and anyone who isn't sucks that's the vibe you're giving off.


I never said Randleman was too old I said he was regressing but when I think about it more I think it had to do with Pride itself and the ruleset and tbh the fighters from a stylistic point are different from what you encounter in the U.S more submission artist and the ruleset just don't work well for his style, even with that said he still won some big fights over there he beat Cro-cop, Ninja etc, again though his best wins were in UFC in the 90s, bringing up a green Randleman facing Erickson at the Brazil open is just showing how you're trying hard to discredit him pointing to a loss that early in his career I could also bring up how he won a 8 man tournament in Brazil early on.


Valter is a fukking bum who no one will remember in 5 years that's facts UFC poops out these random guys that really are just flavors of the month, Randleman was a HW champ people who aren't UFC casuals will know of his the same can't be said for the Junie Browning's, Dan Hardy's or Anthony Smith's out ther that UFC told people were important nobody cares.


Bas would beat both Gane and Aspinall I have zero doubt and he wasn't 200lbs he was 6'1 215lb not that it even matters really, it's crazy that I even have to explain this on here Bas hit dudes so hard he ruptured livers put people in the hospital with concussions to the point where he was afraid they might die, he would destroy both of them although Gane would be the harder fight due to his KB background but even still prime Bas would kill him, Tom lol wasn't even a striker during his time in Bamma
he was a ground guy who was developing his striking just watch his fight against Austin his striking isn't there he's a ground guy jiu jitsu that was his base he became a mma fighters a few years later, Bas was a cold hearted killer in the KB world for decades and feared are you joking prime Bas absolutely decimate Tom on the feet it would be really really bad and here's the thing I'll admit Tom is the number 1 HW right now but that's not saying much, point is size wouldn't matter in this case it would come down to skills and experience and mental toughness and Bas beats Tom in all those areas I think you really buy into the marketing of the UFC and the fact that' it's 2025 so therefore someone like Tom must be better except that's not how reality works.

I'm not being unreasonable here just stating what I'm almost certain would happen, if you said lets say Jon Jones who I think is a cheat and was gifted decisions could beat Bas and the others I mentioned I would agree because Jon is an all around fighter exceptional in all areas whether I hate him or not he's freaking amazing and would beat Bas, Rizzo, and the rest of them because he has many many ways to win, Tom and Gane on the other hand can't get fights to the ground at will so that's the difference.
 
This thread is made up of people who haven't watched Bader fight in the last 3 years

Dude would get steamrolled by any UFC HW at this point
 
Ryan Bader is old but somewhat game. Bader vs Black Beast would sell decently. Bader vs Pav would definitely be a fun Fight Night. I can even see Bader vs Tui holding more entertainment value than most other HW fights. Bader definitely isn’t winning a belt but with the mess going on at HW why hasn’t the UFC brought him back on a short contract and pay him a little to keep the division fun? Thoughts
Bader would come and get the damn belt..that wouldn't be a good look for the ufc
 
a spent light heavyweight won't fix the mess that is the UFC heavyweight division. He would come in, get knocked out, n that would be that. Sure he might pick up a win or 2 first against shmoes but he's going nighty night as soon as the UFC wants to him.

...so bring him in ASAP. He could be a decent stepping stone and call out his bellator title to sell it.
 
He’s be like the second coming of Randy couture at thjs
Point
 
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