Bad bear year in Alaska

[Snowfist]

Nah...you’re still a pussy. It’s not your fault you live in a country with a female president though.

Prime Minister.

US has Donald Trump. The biggest joke of a leader in decades.

Do you still have Sarah Palin helping out over in Alaska? Sit the fuck down

 

[bushman505]

Prime Minister.

US has Donald Trump. The biggest joke of a leader in decades.

Do you still have Sarah Palin helping out over in Alaska? Sit the fuck down

Sarah palin??? Is that the best you got??? Lol you’re a classic example of a Canadian cuck. You Canadian “men” meet the bare minimum qualifications to be considered “men”. Now stfu and go take some fruity nature pictures.

 

[Omegaboy13]

Montana has had a few rough years too. Pretty crazy out there. Just bumped up to a 10mm glock recently, doesn’t look like they’re going to open up a griz season anytime soon. Some of the attacks out here, bear spray had no effect.

 

[Omegaboy13]

Prime Minister.

US has Donald Trump. The biggest joke of a leader in decades.

Do you still have Sarah Palin helping out over in Alaska? Sit the fuck down

Shut up you goof.

 

[Spoken]

A friend sent me some pictures of a huge bear that was shot after killing two people. I'm not sure of the details but the pictures included the mauled victims which was unbelievably horrid. What a 1500lb animal with claws and teeth can do to a human is truely gruesome. Understandably such pictures would get me booted off this site, must admit I have mixed feelings having them on my phone.
Anyway it's a sober reminder how vulnerable humans are and a person better be paying attention because things can go south really fast in a lot of different ways.
I have a semi auto 12gauge for 3 gun competition that will take seven 3.5" slugs delivering 4,500ft lbs with fast follow up shots in case a person has to walk into a threatening situation.
If hiking in general a pistol is fine because I hate packing extra weight.



https://www.adn.com/alaska-news/wil...nt-daughter-die-in-yukon-grizzly-bear-attack/

https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/21/us/bear-kills-man-anchorage-alaska/index.html

https://abcnews.go.com/GMA/News/video/urgent-hunt-dangerous-bear-alaska-56082938

Guiding is part of my job in Montana. I don't carry a firearm and I won't hike with most people who do. You're statistically more likely to be injured in a bear encounter with a gun. I used that same logic in Alaska as well. Folks are rarely good enough with a fire arm to do what they intend, and the intensity of the situation throws people off.

 

[sverre054]

It’s amazing that this post got 3 likes since it’s complete bullshit.

Hey, I live in SE too, and see bears all the time. I actually had to use Bear Mace once in the past, and it did its job. That said, I am usually armed when out in the woods. For most people, Bear Mace will be a more reliable defense. If you Set up a target 30' away, and then are randomly told to fire on it, the mace will cover a much larger area in the target zone. The gun will take longer to fire, if your surprised, than the mace will. That said, if I know a bear is nearby, I will usually have my gun at the ready

 

[Hoof Hearted]

Its just ignorant and stupid. Just because you can get a good result from some a certain percent of these wild animals will fail to be socialized pets and the results will be deadly for the humans and then for the animal after.

Yeah I agree. In the vid I posted though the lions aren't really pets, they were just hand reared by that guy and he sometimes comes back to visit them (which as you say can have fatal consequences, which I'm sure he's aware of) .

 

[Lando]

Prime Minister.

US has Donald Trump. The biggest joke of a leader in decades.

Do you still have Sarah Palin helping out over in Alaska? Sit the fuck down

Settle down soyboy. Trump’s the GOAT President. Pity you’ve got that cuck Trudeau in office making you all look pathetic. You could use a leader like Trump.

Then again you said you wouldn’t hurt an attacking animal so I guess he’s a good representation of you guys.

MAGA

 

[MikeMcMann]

Impressive. But what if that guys just a manlet?

Yup.

Put that bear up against Uber TS and we'll see whats up.

 

[mrsenor]

Briefly shows a man being attacked as part of a over all story.

trained to wrestle?

 

[Spoken]

No idea how this thread got political, but the fact that everyone would get equally mauled by a bear puts us on a level playing field.

 

[My Spot]

Too big and heavy to carry around, ammo is too expensive to donning oracrice with. Cool guns though.

What about a 12 gauge shotgun with a 24" barrel?

 

[unimackpass]

Looking out the wheel house window.

Glock 20, 454 Alaskan, pump shotgun 6 shot tube.
12x50 Swarovski swarovision.

Also the missing middle toe.

 

[unimackpass]

What about a 12 gauge shotgun with a 24" barrel?

Actually was at the range today and was testing slug accuracy out of these shotguns. One is a marine pump made in Turkey the other a Remington Vmax competition that will take 8 3.5” slugs in the tube. It really handles the 4,700ftlbs of energy they put out well for quick follow up shots.

Here it is in action. She’s good!

 

[Grassshoppa]

Did not read whole thread but does anyone know why you should not have front/rear sights on a handgun when confronted by a bear?

Apparently none of you know the answer so I'll tell you.

Make sure you don't have any front/rear sights on your handgun when you go walking in the woods and are confronted by a bear. Not having front/rear sights on your handgun won't hurt as much when the bear shoves it up your ass.

 

[franklinstower]

Guiding is part of my job in Montana. I don't carry a firearm and I won't hike with most people who do. You're statistically more likely to be injured in a bear encounter with a gun. I used that same logic in Alaska as well. Folks are rarely good enough with a fire arm to do what they intend, and the intensity of the situation throws people off.

I don't know man. I would like my chances better in a bear encounter with a gun than without one. I can't see how having a gun makes it more likely to get injured. What injuries are we talking about that a gun makes worse? Maybe shooting yourself-- I could see that happening pretty often while shitting bricks cause a bear is on you.

I am a pepper spray guy myself though but mostly because i think the chances are so slim and don't want to carry a large enough gun to stop a bear while hiking.

Around the camp and trailer its a 20 gauge shotgun with double ot and slugs though. We don't have grizzlies where I am.

 

[Spoken]

I don't know man. I would like my chances better in a bear encounter with a gun than without one. I can't see how having a gun makes it more likely to get injured. What injuries are we talking about that a gun makes worse? Maybe shooting yourself-- I could see that happening pretty often while shitting bricks cause a bear is on you.

I am a pepper spray guy myself though but mostly because i think the chances are so slim and don't want to carry a large enough gun to stop a bear while hiking.

Around the camp and trailer its a 20 gauge shotgun with double ot and slugs though. We don't have grizzlies where I am.

People are more willing to stand their ground and act defensively; most importantly, they don't have an actual deterrent.
Now, perhaps you're a good enough shot that you feel better with a pistol. That's fine. But 99% of handgun owners aren't a good enough shot... And if I'm hiking with something and they're leading the trail and pull a pistol rather than a combo of smart defense and bear spray, we might both die.

Now, in Montana this isn't as big of a thing, but my father who grew up in the backwoods of Alaska has a brown bear skull that have chunks missing from the top. At some point, someone shot this bear in the face with a pistol (presumably the bear was quickly disinterested)... But the bear walked away, lol. I'll not fuck around hoping im a good enough shot to get that lucky

 

[Spoken]

I do think a shotgun with birdshot and slugs is the best bear gun. But I'm not buying $1400 in gear to bring a heavy fucking gun with me. Bear spray is easy as pie (no idea why pie is easy).

 

[unimackpass]

Guiding is part of my job in Montana. I don't carry a firearm and I won't hike with most people who do. You're statistically more likely to be injured in a bear encounter with a gun. I used that same logic in Alaska as well. Folks are rarely good enough with a fire arm to do what they intend, and the intensity of the situation throws people off.

Obviously you don't want to be around just any goofball with a gun weather bears are involved or not. The group I hunt with is highly selective on who gets invited and how experienced they are with a weapon is one of them.
Having said that I know people that didn't believe in packing a weapon until they had a close encounter that caused them to totally and immediately change their mind. If bear spray can be used to chase off a curious bear testing boundaries that is by far a preferable option to shooting it. However there are documented encounters of bears coming straight through perfectly deployed spray and mauling the the dude.
A friend hunting deer on Kodiak was saved by his friend that made a 80yd off hand shot killing a bear that was mauling him. My friend was in a fetal position and the bear was rearing up on his hind legs and coming down raking him with his front claws. His friend knew by the time he ran close to get a better shot it could be to late so he timed the shot when the bears head and shoulders was above the brush.
I tried to get more details from him but he didn't really like to talk about it and quit hunting altogether if there was any chance of bears in the area. Understandable.

 

[Spoken]

Obviously you don't want to be around just any goofball with a gun weather bears are involved or not. The group I hunt with is highly selective on who gets invited and how experienced they are with a weapon is one of them.
Having said that I know people that didn't believe in packing a weapon until they had a close encounter that caused them to totally and immediately change their mind. If bear spray can be used to chase off a curious bear testing boundaries that is by far a preferable option to shooting it. However there are documented encounters of bears coming straight through perfectly deployed spray and mauling the the dude.
A friend hunting deer on Kodiak was saved by his friend that made a 80yd off hand shot killing a bear that was mauling him. My friend was in a fetal position and the bear was rearing up on his hind legs and coming down raking him with his front claws. His friend knew by the time he ran close to get a better shot it could be to late so he timed the shot when the bears head and shoulders was above the brush.
I tried to get more details from him but he didn't really like to talk about it and quit hunting altogether if there was any chance of bears in the area. Understandable.

No doubt there are variables. Group of dudes carrying fire arms with solid training, lots of experience, and even more practice are the kinds of folks I'd trust. They're a small minority.

I've had 5 bear encounters that required a deterrent. A gun could have been effective in 3 of those situations, but a small percentage of people could have hit the bear well enough to stop it's charge.
So while there are people who keep practice enough to be a steady enough shot, a vast majority of people aren't.

The data I'm referencing is from an actual peer reviewed journal; it's the most comprehensive study we have on bear attacks and deterrents. Not sure if it's open source and I don't have it in my phone, but references are easy to find.