Movies AVENGERS: INFINITY WAR v.8

[KnightTemplar]

@KnightTemplar

You catch that Red Skull mentioned that Thanos was the Son of Eros instead of Mentor ?

I missed that. Good catch, bro. I don't know why they would change that. In the comics, Eros is Thanos' brother.

 

[Magooglie]

I feel like Marvel could do some awesome shit with Galactus or Annihilus. And either would be a good bridge off a Fantastic 4 movie.

Galactus vs the Celestials. Book it Kevin!

 

[Magooglie]

I missed that. Good catch, bro. I don't know why they would change that. In the comics, Eros is Thanos' brother.

I thought he said Elos. And someone here mentioned it was probably Alars.

 

[Dinotective]

Or Thor with his axe?

"You should have gone for the arm"

 

[The Clinch]

Or Thor with his axe?

 

[KnightTemplar]

So I was eating dinner and decided to rewatched the last part of suicide squad. At the time I thought the movie was okay. Not good but not bad... but after watching avengers... that movie downright sucks. It was trying so hard to be funny but wasn’t and serious but came out flat. Ben afleck at the end telling Amanda Waller “shut it down or we’ll shut it for you” was like uuuhhh.. okay so u don’t want a sequel????

The whole idea of SS was fucking retarded. What do we do if a God-like being like Superman breaks bad? Uh, send a team of people who, for the most part, don't actually have any Super Powers themselves. Yeah, that will work

And they killed off the most powerful member of the Squad at the end, so the team is even weaker now.

 

[KnightTemplar]

I thought he said Elos. And someone here mentioned it was probably Alars.

To be honest, I was so busy Nerdgasaming that the Red Skull was back, I'm not surprised I missed some of the details of what was said.

 

[KnightTemplar]

Here's the original (616) Nick Fury next to the Ultimate version (modeled after Sam Jackson):

However, I believe the 616 now has it where there's a Black Nick Fury who is the son of White Nick Fury. And why there isn't a comic called WHITE FURY BLACK FURY yet I will never know. Oh wait, yeah I do.

They wrote the whole Original Sin cross over to get White Fury out of the way so Motherfucking Fury could take his place on 616

 

[scorpipede]

Oh and in case everyone needed another reason to hate Dr Strange's decisions in this film:

Anyone remember the scene (right around Spiderman joining the fight) where Strange's assistant chops off the large Thanos Assassin's hand by closing a portal on it?

...yeah. There's your entire movie

Would have taken all of 2 seconds when Thanos was being held down

Strange makes portals appear but hadn't moved them. The things that fall through it move to them. I think anyway.

 

[VitorReem]

Adam Warlock was never my friend. And I don’t give a shit about captain feminism.

I want all the OG avengers to get through this and figure it out without those bums. Save them for down the road they can have their own villain and own movies.

 

[MMouse]

Deadpool confirmed to MCU

 

[SiKnSiN]

Strange makes portals appear but hadn't moved them. The things that fall through it move to them. I think anyway.

Mantis does her thing and they only need to move Thanos like 2 ft for it to be game over. The "1 win condition" is kind of a plot cover cheat in this case, but I don't see how that plan wouldn't work. Kind of pissed I didn't think of it tbh.

 

[Iroh]

I am of the opinion that Hulk didn't want to come out because he knew they raped fhe shit out of his character with this whole Ruffalo Hulk version already. He probably just wanted to go back to Norton or even Bana.

 

[KONG-D'SNT-TAP]

Holy shit that movie was Fucking awesome.


Take note DC, take note Lucasfilm this is how you make a movie the Fucking fans want to see.

 

[Magooglie]

Lucasfilm congratulates Marvel on the record opening weekend


I look forward to the time bending crossover during phase 16

 

[KONG-D'SNT-TAP]

Lucasfilm congratulates Marvel on the record opening weekend


I look forward to the time bending crossover during phase 16

If only KK was smart enough to look at Infinity War and learn from it. Too late at this point though.

Take note Kathleen that's how you payoff the fans. Not that garbage you gave a fan base that waited 3 times as long for their payoff.

 

[KONG-D'SNT-TAP]

Iron Man's everything looking weak af lately

gotta be the power rerouted to being all cool and slim-fit sneaky-like

everybody knows the laptop slim SF whatevers are weaker than desktops

should have gone with old school pre-fabricated

This is the most powerful iron man has been so far and this was hands down his best and most powerful suit.

 

[KONG-D'SNT-TAP]

So is Thanos trapped inside the Soul Gem at the end or what?

I'm pretty certain that's where he is

 

[Kiyashin]

My review of this movie:

I've always been a Marvel fan since the 80's because I've always felt their characters were more personable, flawed, and human. When I think of DC, I think of Alex Ross and their superheroes as gods, and as great as an artist as he is, I just never took to this look. I frankly think it's silly but the anti-establishment of the 90's can do that to you. The MCU has portrayed their characters with the spirit of their comics which is to say, they don't struggle with coming to grips with their powers (like X-Men), but they struggle to understand their own role in life with them, and even in the larger team-ups like Avengers Assemble and Civil War, there always was an internal strife to overcome while defeating an outer one. But with this latest offering from Marvel Studios, that sense of epic scale, of mythological proportions like an Alex Ross painting which DC fans understand, comes to the theater which no comic book movie has done before. Everyone is harping on this being the 10th year anniversary but that is no hype and is the key to everything done well in Infinity War.

So the thing that really impressed upon me was just how heroic everyone felt. I guess its second nature now that everyone has had a movie of their own and with the stakes raised this high. But I was still awe-struck. Tony has been quivering over the last few movies and to see him finally with no quit going one-on-one against Thanos and then getting creamed in the process defined it for me. And then the others like Dr. Strange with supreme confidence pulling out every trick in his sleeve. Peter Parker taking a one-way trip into outer space just to help his idol. Thor visibly shook but getting back up to fight an unassailable enemy. The sacrifices which all the characters have had up to this point resonate in their respective battles, and reflects how hard they will fight to save that which is good. So to judge this movie by itself is impossible nor should it even be attempted. To plot the basic story would be like this: Avengers 1 is where the team learns to work together. Avengers 2: the team unit, with an appropriately superficial party scene, is tested. Civil War: the team breaks up. Infinity War: members die and that obviously doesn't work without what came before.

With so little screen-time given to any one character, the Russos are still able to provide the culmination if not progression of these characters' stories only by telling a very simple theme in these team-up movies: camaraderie and friendship. When Steve shows up to help Vision and Wanda, immediately there's a sense that everything is going to be okay. While Proxima Midnight and Corvus Glaive are heavyweights, I found it believable that the team is able to defeat them simply because they are the Avengers and they're veterans in functioning as a group and most importantly that they believe that too. Even with all the separate fracturing of teams, it's through their coming together that each is able to launch any defense at all. Quick scenes like Okoye and Nat defending Wanda, or Groot getting off his ass and creating the handle for Stormbreaker are just mark-out moments that exemplify how this movie is truer to that idea of fighting for each other than say Avengers Assemble where it was through necessity.

But it's not enough. Thanos as a protagonist, villain, and glue to this film works incredibly well. He's a thoughtful villain and aside from getting to one place to another, doesn't rush which is really refreshing. I hate villains who are not in control and are racing against the hero (eg. Malekith) but in true Thanos fashion, the dialogue and exposition is a part of his process. It could've been better though: Comic Thanos' speech bubbles always have a course outline suggesting an incredibly deep and villainous voice which Josh Brolin does well but not as how I would have imagined it. Also, Thanos tends to wax poetic a lot which wasn't as pronounced. And finally, I really am disappointed that Mistress Death romance angle was not included as that is both his primary motivation but his biggest weakness. But all those are nitpicks coming from a comic book fan. MCU Thanos is menacing without ever raising his voice, has a strange but not unbelievable motivation, and is extremely capable. I loved hating him in this movie and wished he went down horribly. He also gets a couple legit close calls that would've ruined him which I really enjoyed because the villain is able to overcome and makes the mistake for later that it was destiny when really it was luck.

For once, I'm glad that I have a least a semblance of where the story is going to go from here due to the comics. It makes the anticipation for Avengers 4 even greater than this one. The OG members survived the cull, Gamora is probably in the soul stone, Strange has a plan and Nebula is still in the game. Hulk will probably go ape-shit when he finally goes green and we still haven't seen a couple of iconic moments like Cap's vibranium shield getting shattered or him lifting the hammer (which likely won't happen anymore). It's crazy to think how much investment this project was and to span it over two movies. The enjoyment only works if you've followed and liked the action over the 10 years but it goes both ways: it's that much more enjoyable because of it.

Random thoughts:

Plot holes like why didn't Strange use the Time Stone or do the portal closing trick are not as bad as Zemo lure in Civil War so it didn't affect me.

What mildly does affect me is everyone's nigh indestructibility such as Wanda crashing through glass roofs and dozens of feet onto hard floor and walking away from it like nothing.

Loki dying a hero's death could really be the end of his story-line and should be revisited should it not be an illusion and he doesn't come back for any more movies.

Rocket acting as the sane voice to Thor's madness was cool.

 

[SmilinDesperado]

the only 'problem' which not really a problem but maybe I just misunderstood this:

I felt like they didn't really do a great job of portraying Thanos as actually loving Gamora....respect and sympathy yes, but love? Which is why she clearly got all cocky saying 'ha, you love nothing, nobody' or whatever. Granted she could just be really jaded, or just not understood things as a kid, but she seemed to not even contemplate that she'd be the answer to that puzzle.....


Was that just me?

One would think that a person sociopathic enough to kill half of the world and think they're in the right... might not even be able to feel actual 'love', right?

He loves her in his own way.
He has been shown to respect courage. Gamora showed courage and strength.
He raised her like a psycho dad would raise a daughter. He wants her to be at his side, be strong, and carry out his psycho plans. He taught her how to kill.

Nobody sees Thanos vision except himself and members of his Black Order. He seems like a psychopath to everyone else, but he thinks of himself as the hero of the story. His culling of Gamora's planet allowed Gamora to become a strong warrior, it allowed the surivovrs of the planet to thrive. Him not killing her for betraying him is him showing his love.