Movies AVENGERS: INFINITY WAR Thread v.9

[One MMA Fan]

I ok with you or anyone not thinking its the tits. Your view is your view.

But you might not want to read what I am going to write next as the upcoming Mission Impossible movie, upcoming Bond, the next Wick movie and almost any action movie you see going forward then will have no stakes and they will have fake outs. Scenes where they are in near death fights or actual death (Bond, adrenaline shot) and they come back. Yes nothing is going to matter in any of those movies 98% of the time as the main hero or character will triumph.

So if that is your view, if you need real stakes and for the hero to really die and stay dead then I do think you should look to genre's beyond Action movies. You are not going to get what you seek in Action movies and unfortunately i have probably just ruined Mission and the next Wick for you if you did not already know that going in. Drama's often have main character deaths and finality. Or learn to accept that yes, the hero's do win and they do survive 99% of the time and somehow learn to enjoy it anyway despite the lack of true jeopardy. Because if you remain stuck on that last bit you will never enjoy an action movie again. And that would suck.

Okay.

I did enjoy it just not that much like others.



Also not that hyped for the next Bond and Mission Impossible movies, maybe Wick but I liked the first one better and the second was a tad repetitive and just going in the routine of things.

 

[Myrddin Wild]

Of course they will come back and I tell you what I think they get Gamora back to with some sort of trade, loophole cause it's a 'soul' stone.

At the end of it they would only lose Loky (it will be silly to have him fake die 10 times by now) and Idris Elba the gatekeeper/teleporter. Yep they get all vanished back including Vision repaired and Gamora soul or trade.

Eh it's whatever but I do find it silly to marvel at it and get upset "did you see who died?" yea right.

Good call on the soul trade. I hadn't thought about that. I don't know if there's any take backsiez on that though. I think once you make the trade, it's a dun deal. Unless of course you time travel back to before it happened. In that case though, just travel back before any of it happened... grab the witch & have her destroy all the stones one at a time starting with extracting Vision's stone completely.

Everyone in the black order also died. Will any of them come back too? What about all those doggies that died in Wakanda

Yeah, if Loki comes back again, their will be a running mockery gag regarding that one. lol... It's all ready messed up... but at some point a death on screen has to mean something.

did you know there's talk about the Guardians 3 movie being the last for this line up? I found that interesting. It is confirmation that this line up will return... but after that, they're talking about a new crew. I mean if they're gonna do that, then just have em die in Infinity War imo. Though I will enjoy another of their movies.

 

[SaiWa]

Haha... funny but not true. These characters all made it.

War Machine
Okoye (lady warrior general in Wakanda
M'baku (Leader of the mountain people of Wakanda)

did we see any blue people die though? Hmmm.... very prejudice in that regard.

All he saw was Black Panther disappearing and he was like "DAAAYYMMNNN they killed all the black people in this movie!..".. lol

 

[Amerikuracana]

I can relate to the idea of letting the end of the movie resonate as if it weren't going to get reversed... and I think it would be a super bold bad ass move to just own that sh*t & move on without resurrecting everyone.

The discussion has to slip out of the movie & into our reality as well... & there's several assets that are making too much money to just kill them off. They're actually filming "Spiderman Homecoming 2" this summer. Guardian's 3 is foreseen for 2020.... & confirmed to take place after Avengers 4... & the rabbit is the only one of them that made it. I think they'll have to get by without Gamora, but the other ones will likely have to come back.

That said... the rabbit could get a new crew & make a new movie in the same universe, but the directer is all ready saying it's the same crew. Could be a fake out, but I doubt it.

Wakanda could just move on with a new king... so it's conceivable that they could make that sequel without reversing the snap.

Spiderman is the main elephant in the room. They're talking about "expanding the world that they're creating" & that it's even possible that Venom & Spidey could possibly cross paths down the road... so they've got a lot of stories to tell... & they all take place in the MCU

Yeah, no. Gamora will be back.

 

[One MMA Fan]

Good call on the soul trade. I hadn't thought about that. I don't know if there's any take backsiez on that though. I think once you make the trade, it's a dun deal. Unless of course you time travel back to before it happened. In that case though, just travel back before any of it happened... grab the witch & have her destroy all the stones one at a time starting with extracting Vision's stone completely.

Everyone in the black order also died. Will any of them come back too? What about all those doggies that died in Wakanda

Yeah, if Loki comes back again, their will be a running mockery gag regarding that one. lol... It's all ready messed up... but at some point a death on screen has to mean something.

did you know there's talk about the Guardians 3 movie being the last for this line up? I found that interesting. It is confirmation that this line up will return... but after that, they're talking about a new crew. I mean if they're gonna do that, then just have em die in Infinity War imo. Though I will enjoy another of their movies.

This is why I think part 2 would be even better because we don't know how they will fix it, they have more freedom to work with now.

Would have liked to see some of my fav make it out so they get more screen time in the second well I do have Tony I guess. Maybe they get them back early and have to fight him all together.

Yes I know about those reports with the guardians at first I was a bit disappointed but thinking at it their own trilogy and another 2 avengers movies is enough for me, I get a solid taste and they remain special to me.

Also maybe they hit it out of the park with the new Guardians or show us some old Guardians Yondu my boy. Till then I guess Kraglin (first mate, new arrow owner) will have to do.

 

[Dragonlordxxxxx]

Just to give you an update on what Amy said last year.

http://forums.sherdog.com/posts/131226089/

http://forums.sherdog.com/posts/131329087/

 

[equus]

Endgame is my guess

theyll do a switcheroo, decide to milk it into 2 more movies and do gauntlet or crusade then cap it off with infinity finale. because money.

 

[Myrddin Wild]

To be honest I can see where you are coming from, at the time I and many others were just to wrapped up in the moment to pick or care but after having time to reflect it is obvious they are coming back, I mean half of the erased heroes have movies planned FFS <45>

In the theatre my brother who isn't a huge fan like me actually lent over and said why are they being erased when they have new movies coming or just had movies that made tonnes of money? I kinda just said go with it and wait for part 2.

I didn't wanna let that detail take away from the moment so in this case ignorance is bliss and I told myself it's over they are gone and never coming back

Guardians could get a new crew... (there's actually talk about that for after 3) Wakanda can move on with a new king... Strange just doesn't get a sequel... or maybe his oriental buddy takes the helm.

The only "REAL" problem we have is Spiderman. I just don't see any way they're going to continue to evolve his world (as the head lady said)... without bringing him back. They could say it's all prequels but that's not cool. They pretty much gotta keep the timeline going if they're going to keep interest imo.

 

[Twerknasty]

Guardians could get a new crew... (there's actually talk about that for after 3) Wakanda can move on with a new king... Strange just doesn't get a sequel... or maybe his oriental buddy takes the helm.

The only "REAL" problem we have is Spiderman. I just don't see any way they're going to continue to evolve his world (as the head lady said)... without bringing him back. They could say it's all prequels but that's not cool. They pretty much gotta keep the timeline going if they're going to keep interest imo.

If I was a betting man I would say that Tom will be back for sure. Same with Ben and Chris, but I doubt Tom will be back since he died in a legit way

 

[minute bull]

theyll do a switcheroo, decide to milk it into 2 more movies and do gauntlet or crusade then cap it off with infinity finale. because money.

That was my suspicion as well. Mags had a similar idea to proceed with the next individual films without the dead lead characters, like it was a rebuild season. All eyes are on the next one, so why not exploit that.

I love that they're misdirecting with the fake trailer moments.

 

[equus]

Ya he might not be on titan. since iron man and nebula were on that planet but who knows. I looked up that farm where thanos is at and it never gives a planet name

but if you watch the movie again as hes walking out you can see his scarecrow with the armor like in the comics

"60 days into the future on an unnamed planet..."

 

[SaiWa]

theyll do a switcheroo, decide to milk it into 2 more movies and do gauntlet or crusade then cap it off with infinity finale. because money.

This isn’t game of thrones book series son..

Most of the old guard cast members (RDJ, Helmsworth, etc..) do not have a contract past the next movie (they’ve already shot all the scenes and are only required to do promotional tours next year for the movie release) so the next one will be the end of the infinity arc. They may start another arc involving the stones but a lot of contracting issues will need to be resolved first. Your scenario is logistically impossible..

 

[Headkicktoleg]

How amazing would it be if they pulled a kill bill and released a 2nd film in like 2 months that tied everything up

 

[Myrddin Wild]

Just to give you an update on what Amy said last year.

http://forums.sherdog.com/posts/131226089/

http://forums.sherdog.com/posts/131329087/

Oh yeah, I remember that now. Looks like her latest statment is that they're in the MCU... but regardless of that clusterfook... we know Spiderman is MCU... & they're doing another film as well as planning to expand & develop his arc... so I don't see any way around it him not being dead.

While that's not completely true... & they can make his story a series of prequels to Infinity wars, I highly doubt it.

What are your thoughts about Spidey making more movies when we just watched him vaporize?

 

[Joe Wong]

@Bezos you think Rick going get fack hard in the next one?

Honestly, I think Ben will come back to life and fack Rick hard for sure.

Obviously he wont be able to do it alone, though. I don't thin cap can do much to help in that fight, but Robert probably can for sure.

Honestly, how I see it playing out is:

All the avengers coming back together, but the only ones playing a major part in defeating Rick are: Ben, Hulk, Thor, Chris Pratt, Rocket, Robert, and Don.

I think for sure Robert dies in that fight, I think Don goes out as well since they are buddies. I think the last Avengers left standing after Rick is KO'd are Ben, Hulk, Chris and Rocket.

 

[equus]

That was my suspicion as well. Mags had a similar idea to proceed with the next individual films without the dead lead characters, like it was a rebuild season. All eyes are on the next one, so why not exploit that.

I love that they're misdirecting with the fake trailer moments.

so i have to read this entire thread and the last comic discussion thread....itll take me a while as im extremely busy these days...anyway...im sure this is bitched about in here...somewhere....

i HATE seperation of xmen and marvel universes. the possibilities of the outcomes in regards to past comics is insane. i know we dont exactly get the comics like they are remembered. but i was going over old infinity stuff and remember how much i loved all the characters involvements. sonny and i just talked about this the other day... fantastic four sucks...all the incarnations of it suck but holy shit...they were integral in their involvement. silver surfer was better. he was the hulk in the stranges mansion scene in the comic. ADAM FUCKING WARLOCK wasnt an end credits easter egg. wolverine and cyclops were there....shehulk existed...man...im nerding out.

and i have always hated how singer just picked and chose different xmen heroes and villains from different eras. what a convoluted mess...ok im done for the moment.

 

[Myrddin Wild]

This isn’t game of thrones book series son..

Most of the old guard cast members (RDJ, Helmsworth, etc..) do not have a contract past the next movie (they’ve already shot all the scenes and are only required to do promotional tours next year for the movie release) so the next one will be the end of the infinity arc. They may start another arc involving the stones but a lot of contracting issues will need to be resolved first. Your scenario is logistically impossible..

I can appreciate your logic, but why are you dismissing the idea that they can sign a new contract? That seems pretty plausible to me. Especially with all the money that's being made. Marvel is killing it with these heroes. Maybe they feel it's played out, but I don't see a big issue with re-signing them if they want to try & make more.

 

[El Chimpo]

theyll do a switcheroo, decide to milk it into 2 more movies and do gauntlet or crusade then cap it off with infinity finale. because money.

Infinity infinity

 

[Deleted member 110072]

Good call on the soul trade. I hadn't thought about that. I don't know if there's any take backsiez on that though. I think once you make the trade, it's a dun deal. Unless of course you time travel back to before it happened. In that case though, just travel back before any of it happened... grab the witch & have her destroy all the stones one at a time starting with extracting Vision's stone completely.

Everyone in the black order also died. Will any of them come back too? What about all those doggies that died in Wakanda

Yeah, if Loki comes back again, their will be a running mockery gag regarding that one. lol... It's all ready messed up... but at some point a death on screen has to mean something.

did you know there's talk about the Guardians 3 movie being the last for this line up? I found that interesting. It is confirmation that this line up will return... but after that, they're talking about a new crew. I mean if they're gonna do that, then just have em die in Infinity War imo. Though I will enjoy another of their movies.

As was mentioned in this thread there could be potential for the sequel to tie into Guardians 3 with that film focusing on getting Gamora back from the soul stone. I wouldn't be shocked to see that as I don't think Marvel will want too clean a break at the end of phase 3 for fear of viewers thinking it might be a good time to get off. It makes sense dramatically as well, I could see a climax(a 12 rated one anyway) of the Gamora/Peter romance and those characters either dropping out or dying and being replaced by someone with more unresolved drama.

Honestly at the end of the day I don't think simply killing characters has depth in itself. The climax of Infinity War wasn't really a natural end for most of the dissolved characters, it actually had much more to do with the characters who weren't wiped out. Again most obviously its a massive slap in the face for the likes of Stark and Cap(and the people converted to Cap's morals like Nat), not just loosing but seemingly having there moral code lose and be responable for untold deaths.

 

[equus]

Infinity infinity

finite infinities...3. "this time we mean it may be the end."