So Thor with the Stormbreaker could solo the entire Avengers right?
I mean it almost look as if Thanos would have lost to Thor if not for the time stone. Thanos messed up Hulk enough for Hulk to go into hiding the rest of the movie
Have to admit, I was surprised by just how powerful Stormbreaker was. I kept expecting it to be an illusion, as when Gamora thought she'd killed Thanos.
But I'm not going to complain. Better that than a Nerfed version of Thor. He is supposed to be one of the strongest beings in the Marvel Universe
So Thor with the Stormbreaker could solo the entire Avengers right?
I mean it almost look as if Thanos would have lost to Thor if not for the time stone. Thanos messed up Hulk enough for Hulk to go into hiding the rest of the movie
They owed us some spectacular Thor stuff after making him UP for his last 4/5 appearances.
I was so pumped that they finally put some respect on this name.
Also, they made Vision a total bitch.
Nah. They knew this movie was going to be big from the start, I don't think the success of this movie is going to make them do anything different from their schedule.
And as much as I would love to see 4 right now, I am also glad that they wait.
I want this FOX/Marvel deal to be done with, so we can get the other characters in this party.
After IW is a great time to introduce new characters, and they still need time to get ideas and scripts and all that going.
Same, I don't think they'll move up Avengers 4 schedule. Let the anticipation build. Polish the VFX some more. Pace their movies to avoid superhero fatigue. Laugh at the DCEU.
But I don't think the F4 and the X-Men will play a part or even show up in Avengers 4. After all they already finished shooting Avengers 4 last year, so everything is already set. The most fans can hope for is a short cameo or post-credits scene with the Fox characters. Feige recently said that Fox deal will not impact any of the 5 announced MCU films already announced and will probably be a few years before we see the Fox characters in the MCU.
Have to admit, I was surprised by just how powerful Stormbreaker was. I kept expecting it to be an illusion, as when Gamora thought she'd killed Thanos.
But I'm not going to complain. Better that than a Nerfed version of Thor. He is supposed to be one of the strongest beings in the Marvel Universe
They owed us some spectacular Thor stuff after making him UP for his last 4/5 appearances.
I was so pumped that they finally put some respect on this name.
Also, they made Vision a total bitch.
They had to nerf Vision's phasing powers because it was like super speed in the sense that it's hard to neutralize someone with that kind of power. Hence Corvus' sneak attack.
Questions for anyone that can help me out with this
1)
- so is red skull death?
- if so, how and why?
If not, how and why is he floating around?
2) When Thanos was at the after life (or was it) for brief moment and came across young gamora, was that gamora? or was thatsomeone else in disguise of gamora to manipulating Thanos's motives? Or was she symbolic of his motives?
These 2 questions got me wondering all night.
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They had to nerf Vision's phasing powers because it was like super speed in the sense that it's hard to neutralize someone with that kind of power. Hence Corvus' sneak attack.
Even so, he is incredibly powerful without the phasing ability and the whole team ran a train on Corvus, so its not like he is a world beater. [/quote]
Different rules; once Hela had returned, the only way to stop her was to let Ragnarok take place. More pedantically, they wanted to keep Stormbreaker for the Ulitmate Big Bad. Hela was good, but she's a Middleweight compared to Thanos
Same, I don't think they'll move up Avengers 4 schedule. Let the anticipation build. Polish the VFX some more.
But I don't think the F4 and the X-Men will play a part or even show up in Avengers 4. After all they already finished shooting Avengers 4 last year, so everything is already set. The most fans can hope for is a short cameo or post-credits scene with the Fox characters. Feige recently said that Fox deal will not impact any of the 5 announced MCU films already announced and will probably be a few years before we see the Fox characters in the MCU.
I agree that Vision without phasing powers is still very powerful. Unfortunately they wanted Vision to be very weak due to Corvus' sneak attack to create a scenario where it's believable that the Black Order can actually hurt/kill him.
Right off the bat you get the feeling that things are going to go bad quickly.
I really enjoyed the pace of it. You'll probably be a bit lost if you haven't watched a few key films beforehand.
I was trying to critique the fighting choreography, but i don't have to say much about it since i thought it was damn good considering the cgi.
Thanos was an amazing character in this. I would have liked for him to look more like the thanos at the end of avengers 1, but them humanizing him and making him look like his voice actor probably worked better. I even found myself rooting for him (even if it was just for a little bit)
Which brings me to my next point, i think we all finally got the villain we were hoping for, this dude was straight up ruthless.
i was a bit worried that he was gonna get ultron'd when they almost got the gauntlet off him. I was thinking noooo god, noooo (steve carrell style) But I'm glad it didn't work.
Loved the wakandan battle, i was so giddy about that whole scene.
I will give the movie a 9.5, and here's why i won't give it a 10/10
i know the avengers that fought the black order are very solid warriors... but i still think that every black order member should have been way more of a challenge to them. These guys are thanos A team. And i kind of feel they were easier to beat than they should have.
Also, i honesty thought we where gonna see stark or cap die. I mean i wasn't hoping they would die. But i started getting dem feels when stark got stabbed. Only to see that he was saved.
The battles
i thought they were done so well, but i think my favorite was thanos vs strange. It was mindblowing.
A question about the after credits scene...
who did nick fury send the message to?
I'm gonna watch it again on saturday, so I'll probably update my review.
Questions especially if you guys can help me out. Thanks in advance.
8-9/10
First of all. My mind is blown. I love Feige's social media tactics to throw fans off so the movie isnt as predictable. At this point I dont know what to believe when kevin fills us in. That or its as if MCU does the complete opposite of what fans think are gonna happen to an extent.
Anyway. I'll start off with the bad as there isn't much.
- What I didnt like as you said DL, the score in the beginning needed to be a menacing intro. It felt off and flat.
- second was hulk/banner conflict. I found it funny the first time, but when we saw it again during the battle in wakanda, it felt annoying and cheesy.
- the build up to wakanda was zero to non existent or maybe just the way it transitioned cudve been better, or maybe a better build up score to it. But it just didnt flow.
Aside from that, this alone takes a point or 2 out. I know it can be a little harsh but this Movie needs to be perfect all around. Its 10 years in the making. Little details to even the smallest details matter.
Now onto to the good
- Holy chet at shock factor. Applaud to Feige and Russos. Did not expect that ending. Chet just got even more real post credits. When people were fading away, and everyone was clueless, not sure whats happening, the tone and score used for this made it seem like a horror movie, it was scary because eeven the heroes didnt know what to do and were scared themselves despite having each other around.
- Second Thanos is not your typical MCU Villain as I expected. He was very strategic, emotional and deep. There's a purpose, strategy, reason and thought behind his actions. Just the way he setup tony and gamora all along was brilliant. What I also liked is how he is vulnerable. He may be a Titan, a god at that point but he can be beat with good teamwork. He also bleeds and wounds. He also has deep feelings and too much respect (to an extent). These can be manipulated and used against him. But he is definately my favorite MCU villain as of now. And possibly villain. He just didnt come off as a typical badie. That wants to kill for the purpose of killing.
- The pacing was pretty good. Both the action scenes and non action scenes were balanced. I felt niether draged on, on my end at least. If anything movie didnt feel long enough.
- I liked how the actors got really emotional on this one, theres alot of emotions running through here.
- The jokes were pretty funny so aslong it wasnt repititve.
- The action scenes were good in a way were it was refreshing since we got to see different team ups and villains.
-loved how things werent predictable.
Questions
1)
- so is red skull death?
- if so, how and why?
If not, how and why is he floating around?
2) When Thanos was at the after life (or was it) for brief moment and came across young gamora, was that gamora? or was that someone else in disguise of gamora to manipulating Thanos's motives? Or was she symbolic of his motives?
1)I'm not sure about Red Skull myself. All we see is his face; the fact the robe covers his whole body and that he's floating in the air suggests he might be a spirit of some kind rather than a physical being. Since he wasn't seen after Thanos took the Soul Stone, he may have been released from his punishment. Either truly dead or transported somewhere else now his duty is done.
They kept the Skull's scene completely off the radar by replacing Weaving with Marquand, so there's no official announcement as to whether or not the Skull will return in future movies.
2)I'm certain that was Gamora. Thor hit Thanos so hard with Stormbreaker that he inflicted a potentially mortal wound. Thanos had a near death experience before using the Stones to heal himself.
Same, I don't think they'll move up Avengers 4 schedule. Let the anticipation build. Polish the VFX some more. Pace their movies to avoid superhero fatigue. Laugh at the DCEU.
But I don't think the F4 and the X-Men will play a part or even show up in Avengers 4. After all they already finished shooting Avengers 4 last year, so everything is already set. The most fans can hope for is a short cameo or post-credits scene with the Fox characters. Feige recently said that Fox deal will not impact any of the 5 announced MCU films already announced and will probably be a few years before we see the Fox characters in the MCU.
Oh yea, 100% agree.
I don't think the Xmen, F4, or any other FOX character shows up in Avengers 4, unless it's a post-credit kind of deal..and even then, i think the most we would get is just a name, or a symbol.
In a way, I'm kind of happy with the way things are turning out. How much work and energy did it take just to make the collaboration to happen for this version of IW? Can you imagine if we already had F4, the Xmen, and everyone else? I just don't see how it wouldve came together without being a giant clusterfuck.
In a way, I'm glad it only involved the current players.
It also gave some characters that normally wouldn't of had a chance to shine, their own spotlight.
I have always thought Captain America was boring, and he has been an absolute badass on screen. I never had any interest in Thor in the comics, but he's great now. Same with Black Panther, and honestly, most of the other Marvel characters. (Didn't even know who GoTG were till the movies came out)
On Hulk getting besmirched , Thanos is formidable and was probably not actively using it , but for the Hulk's sake the Power Stone was already giving the Boss Man a little something extra .
Fury is supposed to play a prominent role in Captain Marvels Movie , set in the 90s implying that Captain Marvel has been away from Earth for years. Whether she is in space or another realm is a mystery.
On Hulk getting besmirched , Thanos is formidable and was probably not actively using it , but for the Hulk's sake the Power Stone was already giving the Boss Man a little something extra .
Joking aside, I think what shook the Hulk so badly wasn't getting beaten - he's lost to Stark in the Hulkbuster armour and would have lost to Thor had the Grandmaster not cheated - but the fact it was a total curb-stomp. He barely laid a glove on Thanos. The Mad Titan wasn't only stronger he was faster and had real skill. Hulk was throwing Haymakers. Thanos was filling the room with uppercuts
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