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TONY-T said:
I'm really curious as to how Nebula and Stark are going to be able to leave Titan. As far as I can tell, they were the only ones left on Titan. Everyone else died.
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Stark will probably be able to jury-rig something to repair the ship and fly home. Or Thor and Rabbit will pick them up
 
TONY-T said:
I'm really curious as to how Nebula and Stark are going to be able to leave Titan. As far as I can tell, they were the only ones left on Titan. Everyone else died.
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Not really a problem since Stark and Nebula can just fix some of the ships and pilot them.
Or just pilot the Guardians ship which seems to be intact.
 
pinkybrief said:
how did nebula got there? probably her ship or something lol
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In the middle of the battle between the heroes and Thanos in Titan, Nebula's ship crashed right in front of Thanos. Nebula appeared and then fought Thanos.
 
Thank God I was on holiday this week and didn't have to wait to see it. I don't think I could have lasted past this morning.
 
KnightTemplar said:
Thank God I was on holiday this week and didn't have to wait to see it. I don't think I could have lasted past this morning.
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I'm at work right now and I'm ancy as fuck. I'm getting to the theatre an hour early.
 
Alright folks, I can now tell you that I absolutely loved the movie. It totally lives up to the hype, and I foresee numerous rewatches in my near future.

While certainly much, much darker than any previous MCU film, it strikes a proper tone of dread without getting too depressing for the audience. The pacing is great as I thought there were no scenes that were out of place or which did not contribute to the story. I noticed this in particular because I watched The Avengers and Avengers: Age of Ultron back to back just before this one. There is no equivalent to the Barton farm self-pitying scenes and Thor’s side quest is actually quite relevant to the plot.

Thanos is an extraordinary villain. Brolin plays him in such a way that even though you know on an intellectual level that what he wants and what he does is completely and unquestioningly evil, you can’t help but to feel for him in your gut. While Loki’s pompous pronouncements about ruling Earth and Asgard for the benefit of its peoples always rang hollow, while Alexander Pierce’s monologue sounded like self-delusion to justify naked greed, while Killmonger coated his desire to watch the world that hurt him burn with a veneer of revanchism in the name of the oppressed… Thanos will make you believe in spite of all logic and sanity that he truly and deeply cares for wellbeing of the universe. That he truly believes he is a necessary evil.

Another thing that I noticed that is a testament to how good the film is, was that when certain things happened that the entire audience had to know would be undone by a reset button in the next movie, everyone in the theatre gasped in shock and horror. Everyone was so into the film that even the foreknowledge that these things would not stick didn’t seem to matter.

Now for some spoilery thoughts…

  • I was a bit annoyed by the fact that all the Asgardians refugees had been killed as it made the ending of Thor: Ragnarok more depressing in retrospect, but I breathed a sigh of relief when Thor said later in the movie that Thanos had killed half of his people. That must mean that as per his M.O., Thanos probably let half the Asgardians make a run for it in escape pods or something before finishing off the rest. With any luck Valkyrie and Miek will have gone with that group.
  • The scene between Thor and Rocket made an excellent job of letting the audience know that Thor was using humor and nonchalance to try to deal with overwhelming grief and remain functional. Otherwise, Thor’s attitude would’ve made no sense whatsoever.
  • Speaking of humor, Drax continues to be hysterically funny. The whole theater was laughing their asses off every single time he opened his mouth. Bautista’s comedic timing is impeccable.
  • I’ve never seen them standing together, so I have to wonder… is Chris Hemsworth really that much bigger than Chris Pratt or where they using camera tricks to make it look that way? I thought they were only a couple of centimeters apart in height.
  • I think they dropped the ball a little during the forging of Stormbreaker. The setup with the forge and the power of a star was awesome… but then the end result of all that is heating up a crucible and then pouring it into a mold? Come one!
  • There is one detail that I wonder if it was intentional or not was that this time around all the destruction in NYC was pretty limited in scope and all centered on the Greenwich Village neighborhood, where none of the NYC-based Netflix heroes live.
  • Peter Parker lucked out. I will take fighting intergalactic monsters over having to set one foot on the MoMA any day.
  • Another detail that I liked was how Strange’s absence from Earth prevented a plot hole from happening, as he would’ve been able to tell the Avengers that their plan to destroy the Mind Stone wouldn’t work if Thanos got his hands on the Time Stone.
  • This is the first time in my life that I’ve seen an entire theater gasp in such perfect unison that it became audible, and it happened when the Red Skull showed up. Talk about an unexpected character. And I loved how his punishment was like something out of ancient myth and most importantly… it seemed to have actually worked! Gone is the boisterous megalomaniacal villain of WWII, and in his place is a being broken by decades of incorporeality and forced self-reflection and contemplation.
  • Speaking of the Soul Stone, I was relieved that they didn’t try to shoehorn it into an existing element of the MCU. It would’ve been needlessly convoluted and this way was cleaner, story wise.
  • I'm wondering how hard will they press the reset button in Avengers 4. Undoing The Finger Snap is a given, as is resurrecting Gamora, but what else?

That’s all I have right now, but I’m sure I’m missing something as I’m operating on 4 hours of sleep.

pinkybrief said:
Why is red skull is flying?
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The way I interpreted it was that being made incorporeal was part of the Red Skull’s punishment, along with knowing everything about those who came to Vormir seeking the Soul Stone.

I mean, otherwise, how would he had even been able to survive for ¾ of a century? That planet seems to be completely uninhabited. What would he eat?

LilMountain said:
Isnt the next one part two of this? Or did that change at some point?
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Nope.

Ant-man and the Wasp comes out later this year and Captain Marvel (which is set in the 1990s) comes out next year before Avengers 4.

KnightTemplar said:
Weaving isn't listed on the IMBD cast page, but that could be deliberate misdirection. Or it could be they've replaced Weaving, as he wasn't keen on reprising the role. I take it the Skull doesn't have a lot of screen time anyway. More of a cameo appearance to confirm he still exists in the MCU so they can bring him back in another movie, yeah?
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I don’t think he is coming back after this.

I just think the Russos thought it would be a nice detail to finally let the audience know what ever happened to the guy. They must’ve realized that they had this small part of the guide in Vormir and decided it was a nice chance to tie up a loose end.

wellz6 said:
@Dragonlordxxxxx , I know from the comics that Thanos is more powerful than the Hulk even without the gauntlet, so I wouldn't expect Hulk to win a fight between the two, but one person who has seen the movie basically said they turned Hulk into a pussy in this film. Without going into specific details, can you confirm or deny this?
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It depends on your definition of pussy. I believe your friend might be referring to the fact that the Hulk refused to come out when Banner needed him.

TONY-T said:
I'm really curious as to how Nebula and Stark are going to be able to leave Titan. As far as I can tell, they were the only ones left on Titan. Everyone else died.
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The guardians got to Titan on the Milano. The ship must still be on the planet somewhere and Nebula can pilot it.
 
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JadeOwl said:
Alright folks, I can now tell you that I absolutely loved the movie. It totally lives up to the hype, and I foresee numerous rewatches in my near future.

While certainly much, much darker than any previous MCU film, it strikes a proper tone of dread without getting too depressing for the audience. The pacing is great as I thought there were no scenes that were out of place or which did not contribute to the story. I noticed this in particular because I watched The Avengers and Avengers: Age of Ultron back to back just before this one. There is no equivalent to the Barton farm self-pitying scenes and Thor’s side quest is actually quite relevant to the plot.

Thanos is an extraordinary villain. Brolin plays him in such a way that even though you know on an intellectual level that what he wants and what he does is completely and unquestioningly evil, you can’t help but to feel for him in your gut. While Loki’s pompous pronouncements about ruling Earth and Asgard for the benefit of its peoples always rang hollow, while Alexander Pierce’s monologue sounded like self-delusion to justify naked greed, while Killmonger coated his desire to watch the world that hurt him burn with a veneer of revanchism in the name of the oppressed… Thanos will make you believe in spite of all logic and sanity that he truly and deeply cares for wellbeing of the universe. That he truly believes he is a necessary evil.

Another thing that I noticed that is a testament to how good the film is, was that when certain things happened that the entire audience had to know would be undone by a reset button in the next movie, everyone in the theatre gasped in shock and horror. Everyone was so into the film that even the foreknowledge that these things would not stick didn’t seem to matter.

Now for some spoilery thoughts…

  • I was a bit annoyed by the fact that all the Asgardians refugees had been killed as it made the ending of Thor: Ragnarok more depressing in retrospect, but I breathed a sigh of relief when Thor said later in the movie that Thanos had killed half of his people. That must mean that as per his M.O., Thanos probably let half the Asgardians make a run for it in escape pods or something before finishing off the rest. With any luck Valkyrie and Miek will have gone with that group.
  • The scene between Thor and Rocket made an excellent job of letting the audience know that Thor was using humor and nonchalance to try to deal with overwhelming grief and remain functional. Otherwise, Thor’s attitude would’ve made no sense whatsoever.
  • Speaking of humor, Drax continues to be hysterically funny. The whole theater was laughing their asses off every single time he opened his mouth. Bautista’s comedic timing is impeccable.
  • I’ve never seen them standing together, so I have to wonder… is Chris Hemsworth really that much bigger than Chris Pratt or where they using camera tricks to make it look that way? I thought they were only a couple of centimeters apart in height.
  • I think they dropped the ball a little during the forging of Stormbreaker. The setup with the forge and the power of a star was awesome… but then the end result of all that is heating up a crucible and then pouring it into a mold? Come one!
  • There is one detail that I wonder if it was intentional or not was that this time around all the destruction in NYC was pretty limited in scope and all centered on the Greenwich Village neighborhood, where none of the NYC-based Netflix heroes live.
  • Peter Parker lucked out. I will take fighting intergalactic monsters over having to set one foot on the MoMA any day.
  • Another detail that I liked was how Strange’s absence from Earth prevented a plot hole from happening, as he would’ve been able to tell the Avengers that their plan to destroy the Mind Stone wouldn’t work if Thanos got his hands on the Time Stone.
  • This is the first time in my life that I’ve seen an entire theater gasp in such perfect unison that it became audible, and it happened when the Red Skull showed up. Talk about an unexpected character. And I loved how his punishment was like something out of ancient myth and most importantly… it seemed to have actually worked! Gone is the boisterous megalomaniacal villain of WWII, and in his place is a being broken by decades of incorporeality and forced self-reflection and contemplation.
  • Speaking of the Soul Stone, I was relieved that they didn’t try to shoehorn it into an existing element of the MCU. It would’ve been needlessly convoluted and this way was cleaner, story wise.
  • I'm wondering how hard will they press the reset button in Avengers 4. Undoing The Finger Snap is a given, as is resurrecting Gamora, but what else?

That’s all I have right now, but I’m sure I’m missing something as I’m operating on 4 hours of sleep.



The way I interpreted it was that being made incorporeal was part of the Red Skull’s punishment, along with knowing everything about those who came to Vormir seeking the Soul Stone.

I mean, otherwise, how would he had even been able to survive for ¾ of a century? That planet seems to be completely uninhabited. What would he eat?



Nope.

Ant-man and the Wasp comes out later this year and Captain Marvel (which is set in the 1990s) comes out next year before Avengers 4.



I don’t think he is coming back after this.

I just think the Russos thought it would be a nice detail to finally let the audience know what ever happened to the guy. They must’ve realized that they had this small part of the guide in Vormir and decided it was a nice chance to tie up a loose end.



It depends on your definition of pussy. I believe your friend might be referring to the fact that the Hulk refused to come out when Banner needed him.



The guardians got to Titan on the Milano. The ship must still be on the planet somewhere and Nebula can pilot it.
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was that a beeper/pager that fury was using?
 
JadeOwl said:
Alright folks, I can now tell you that I absolutely loved the movie. It totally lives up to the hype, and I foresee numerous rewatches in my near future.

While certainly much, much darker than any previous MCU film, it strikes a proper tone of dread without getting too depressing for the audience. The pacing is great as I thought there were no scenes that were out of place or which did not contribute to the story. I noticed this in particular because I watched The Avengers and Avengers: Age of Ultron back to back just before this one. There is no equivalent to the Barton farm self-pitying scenes and Thor’s side quest is actually quite relevant to the plot.

Thanos is an extraordinary villain. Brolin plays him in such a way that even though you know on an intellectual level that what he wants and what he does is completely and unquestioningly evil, you can’t help but to feel for him in your gut. While Loki’s pompous pronouncements about ruling Earth and Asgard for the benefit of its peoples always rang hollow, while Alexander Pierce’s monologue sounded like self-delusion to justify naked greed, while Killmonger coated his desire to watch the world that hurt him burn with a veneer of revanchism in the name of the oppressed… Thanos will make you believe in spite of all logic and sanity that he truly and deeply cares for wellbeing of the universe. That he truly believes he is a necessary evil.

Another thing that I noticed that is a testament to how good the film is, was that when certain things happened that the entire audience had to know would be undone by a reset button in the next movie, everyone in the theatre gasped in shock and horror. Everyone was so into the film that even the foreknowledge that these things would not stick didn’t seem to matter.

Now for some spoilery thoughts…

  • I was a bit annoyed by the fact that all the Asgardians refugees had been killed as it made the ending of Thor: Ragnarok more depressing in retrospect, but I breathed a sigh of relief when Thor said later in the movie that Thanos had killed half of his people. That must mean that as per his M.O., Thanos probably let half the Asgardians make a run for it in escape pods or something before finishing off the rest. With any luck Valkyrie and Miek will have gone with that group.
  • The scene between Thor and Rocket made an excellent job of letting the audience know that Thor was using humor and nonchalance to try to deal with overwhelming grief and remain functional. Otherwise, Thor’s attitude would’ve made no sense whatsoever.
  • Speaking of humor, Drax continues to be hysterically funny. The whole theater was laughing their asses off every single time he opened his mouth. Bautista’s comedic timing is impeccable.
  • I’ve never seen them standing together, so I have to wonder… is Chris Hemsworth really that much bigger than Chris Pratt or where they using camera tricks to make it look that way? I thought they were only a couple of centimeters apart in height.
  • I think they dropped the ball a little during the forging of Stormbreaker. The setup with the forge and the power of a star was awesome… but then the end result of all that is heating up a crucible and then pouring it into a mold? Come one!
  • There is one detail that I wonder if it was intentional or not was that this time around all the destruction in NYC was pretty limited in scope and all centered on the Greenwich Village neighborhood, where none of the NYC-based Netflix heroes live.
  • Peter Parker lucked out. I will take fighting intergalactic monsters over having to set one foot on the MoMA any day.
  • Another detail that I liked was how Strange’s absence from Earth prevented a plot hole from happening, as he would’ve been able to tell the Avengers that their plan to destroy the Mind Stone wouldn’t work if Thanos got his hands on the Time Stone.
  • This is the first time in my life that I’ve seen an entire theater gasp in such perfect unison that it became audible, and it happened when the Red Skull showed up. Talk about an unexpected character. And I loved how his punishment was like something out of ancient myth and most importantly… it seemed to have actually worked! Gone is the boisterous megalomaniacal villain of WWII, and in his place is a being broken by decades of incorporeality and forced self-reflection and contemplation.
  • Speaking of the Soul Stone, I was relieved that they didn’t try to shoehorn it into an existing element of the MCU. It would’ve been needlessly convoluted and this way was cleaner, story wise.
  • I'm wondering how hard will they press the reset button in Avengers 4. Undoing The Finger Snap is a given, as is resurrecting Gamora, but what else?

That’s all I have right now, but I’m sure I’m missing something as I’m operating on 4 hours of sleep.



The way I interpreted it was that being made incorporeal was part of the Red Skull’s punishment, along with knowing everything about those who came to Vormir seeking the Soul Stone.

I mean, otherwise, how would he had even been able to survive for ¾ of a century? That planet seems to be completely uninhabited. What would he eat?



Nope.

Ant-man and the Wasp comes out later this year and Captain Marvel (which is set in the 1990s) comes out next year before Avengers 4.



I don’t think he is coming back after this.

I just think the Russos thought it would be a nice detail to finally let the audience know what ever happened to the guy. They must’ve realized that they had this small part of the guide in Vormir and decided it was a nice chance to tie up a loose end.



It depends on your definition of pussy. I believe your friend might be referring to the fact that the Hulk refused to come out when Banner needed him.



The guardians got to Titan on the Milano. The ship must still be on the planet somewhere and Nebula can pilot it.
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I said the same thing; the Skull is far less arrogant. His punishment reminded me of the ancient Greek legend of Tantalus, who was cursed with eternal hunger and thirst. He was forced to stand in a cool lake, with grapes hanging from a tree above him. Every time he tried to reach the grapes, they swayed out of reach. When he tried to drink the water, it dried up.

Nice catch that the Skull could be non-physical. Although he also could have manifested new powers after decades in isolation, in such close proximity to one of the most powerful objects in the universe. We also don't know what the rest of the planet is like; we only saw one part of it.

Now that the Soul Stone has been taken, will the Skull's punishment be at an end? Will he be able to leave his prison, or just die? Personally, I hope they bring him back, and Jackson has hinted that he might return.
 
So antman and wasp and captain marvel take place after this chronologically? I know not everything was in order before but this seems pretty big to be working around
 
LilMountain said:
So antman and wasp and captain marvel take place after this chronologically? I know not everything was in order before but this seems pretty big to be working around
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Captain Marvel definitively takes place decades before this one, in-universe.

Antman and the Wasp probably takes place a little before or concurrently.
 
KnightTemplar said:
Now that the Soul Stone has been taken, will the Skull's punishment be at an end? Will he be able to leave his prison, or just die? Personally, I hope they bring him back, and Jackson has hinted that he might return.
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I really have no idea. That will depend on where the Infinity Stones end up by the end of Avengers 4, I guess.
 
LilMountain said:
So antman and wasp and captain marvel take place after this chronologically? I know not everything was in order before but this seems pretty big to be working around
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My understanding is Captain marvel takes place in the 1980s or 90s.

No idea when Antman and Wasp is supposed to take place. I’ll assume prior to IW though.
 
TheWorm said:
My understanding is Captain marvel takes place in the 1980s or 90s.

No idea when Antman and Wasp is supposed to take place. I’ll assume prior to IW though.
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CM is in the 90s and AM&W is after Civil War
 
Got tickets for tomorrow at 4, these spoiler tags are killing me. Must not open.
 
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