Movies AVENGERS: INFINITY WAR Thread v.10

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Kiyashin said:
In the comics it's Mistress Death who gives Thanos the quest to seek the gems and thereby end half the life in the universe. In the movie, dunno how he actually knows but seems like everyone knows what Inifinity stones are so maybe it was just a badly kept secret.
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Technically she doesnt send him to get the stones. She resurrects him and he looks in the infinity well and learns of the 6 crystals
 
Zazen said:
1) Thor never fought the Black Order
2) Black Widow never owned anyone, she would have been killed if she fought one on one. Fortunately she had allies
3) Captain America had help. Vision lost his ability to phase early on.
4) Iron Man now has nano technology and he has a lot of experience at this point in fighting bad guys. Thanos probably never encountred a fighter like that before
5) Dr. Strange saw all the future outcomes, he is not going to do anything to put the future in jeopardy.
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If Thor not fight Black Order how his ship get destroyed, and he get so beat up? Was it all from bombardment?
 
SaiWa said:
I don’t think so. Thanos is as calculating and as evil as anyone can be. He can do anything with the stones. He allowed those mistakes to happen because he wanted to lose. Allowing nebula the opportunity to touch the gauntlet and briefly claim the power proves it.

There simply were too many mistakes that Thanos did even when he possessed all the abilities of the stones. Time stone alone allows him to know his future and he did nothing to prevent it.
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He is calculating. But from what i got from that story was that love can make the smartest people do the dumbest shit.
Let's remember that the entire point of his quest was to gain the love of Death. It wasn't about power. He wanted to be worthy of Death, and have her at his side.
He is calculating, but he is flawed. He can be manipulated. He was by Mephisto.
He allowed mistakes because he thought they would lead to Death.
He didn't really "allow" Nebula to touch the glove.
He had fucked her up and tortured her beyond measure. He was fighting cosmic entities, he didn't think she could do shit
 
fonzob1 said:
- Vision and Thor: Both got owned by Thanos' goons.
- Black Widow: She doesn't even have super powers and yet she owned the same goons that owned Vision.
- Captain America: Owns Thanos' goons, while Thor, Vision, and Loki can't.
- Iron Man: Put up a little too good of a fight against Thanos considering he is just a man in body armor.
- Dr. Strange: Seems like he could have used his talents/powers much more than he actually did.
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Nothing you mentioned equates to inconsistency but more to what you dont like
 
MadSquabbles500 said:
If Thor not fight Black Order how his ship get destroyed, and he get so beat up? Was it all from bombardment?
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Thanos defeated Thor, that is why he goes on the quest for the axe. He knows he is unable to beat him without it.

When speaking with Rocket

"He's never fought me twice"
 
fonzob1 said:
- Vision and Thor: Both got owned by Thanos' goons.
- Black Widow: She doesn't even have super powers and yet she owned the same goons that owned Vision.
- Captain America: Owns Thanos' goons, while Thor, Vision, and Loki can't.
- Iron Man: Put up a little too good of a fight against Thanos considering he is just a man in body armor.
- Dr. Strange: Seems like he could have used his talents/powers much more than he actually did.
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Thor didnt fight the order. Thanos beat his ass with the power stone.
Vision was hit by a special blade that canceled out his phasing ability.
If anyone else had got stabbed through the chest they would have been dead.

Black Widow didn't own anyone. She worked as a unit. Her, Cap, and Falcon used the Black Order's own special weapons against them to defeat them. She then almost died, alongside Okoye in Wakanda until Wanda saved them.

Captain used team work , strategy, and their weapons to beat the Order. He also was almost killed by one, but Vision saved him.

Iron Man is more powerful than you're giving him credit for. And he lasted as long as he did because Thanos likes to fight. At any moment Thanos could have just turned him into some bubbles if he wanted to

Lol Dr Strange was doing a lot. And he also said there was only 1 way they win. He wasn't going to disrupt that
 
I think one thing people should understand about this movie is if you have the element of surprise your power multiplies greatly.
 
SmilinDesperado said:
He is calculating. But from what i got from that story was that love can make the smartest people do the dumbest shit.
Let's remember that the entire point of his quest was to gain the love of Death. It wasn't about power. He wanted to be worthy of Death, and have her at his side.
He is calculating, but he is flawed. He can be manipulated. He was by Mephisto.
He allowed mistakes because he thought they would lead to Death.
He didn't really "allow" Nebula to touch the glove.
He had fucked her up and tortured her beyond measure. He was fighting cosmic entities, he didn't think she could do shit
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That’s the backstory yes. His flaws were utterly critical and for one who was accustomed to wielding near ultimate power. nebula snagging the gauntlet is proof that he allowed it. He could have done multiple things to prevent anyone touching the glove while he was gone. Encase it and himself in a shield, trap it with magic, etc... he allowed it to be taken plain and simple.

Even Adam warlock told him that logically speaking he shouldn’t have lost but he did because he allowed it. Deep down inside he felt unworthy of the power. You need to read all the infinity arcs to see this.
 
SaiWa said:
That’s the backstory yes. His flaws were utterly critical and for one who was accustomed to wielding near ultimate power. nebula snagging the gauntlet is proof that he allowed it. He could have done multiple things to prevent anyone touching the glove while he was gone. Encase it and himself in a shield, trap it with magic, etc... he allowed it to be taken plain and simple.

Even Adam warlock told him that logically speaking he shouldn’t have lost but he did because he allowed it. Deep down inside he felt unworthy of the power. You need to read all the infinity arcs to see this.
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And all of that can easily be said to be a product of his arrogance. He didn't do all those safe guards because he believed himself to be all powerful. He's always been arrogant

I've read the comics.
I know the conversation that you're referring to. But I'm saying that that is not the entirety of it.
If Death had spread her legs and said kill everyone, he would have, despite any doubt he had inside. We're talking about what an imaginary character would or wouldn't do here, so we'll just have to disagree on this, but i disagree that he 100% wanted to lose
 
heavyarms21 said:
It would be extremely unwise for the DCEU to use him as a Big Bad in a future Justice League venture.

To general audiences the characters would be similar however Darkseid has less Human looking qualities , the MCU really toned down the comic book look on Thanos and made his features very human , made every time he was engaged in dialogue look believable and also made his emotional scene with Gamora's death feel genuine.

However the DCEU is run by idiots so they will Probably do another rush job and fuck it up.
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They're going to give Darkseid a cgi mustache. Problem solved.
 
heavyarms21 said:
It would be extremely unwise for the DCEU to use him as a Big Bad in a future Justice League venture.

To general audiences the characters would be similar however Darkseid has less Human looking qualities , the MCU really toned down the comic book look on Thanos and made his features very human , made every time he was engaged in dialogue look believable and also made his emotional scene with Gamora's death feel genuine.

However the DCEU is run by idiots so they will Probably do another rush job and fuck it up.
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Aren't they trying to make a New Gods movie? They probably thought they could segue into Darkseid with it but now they're just screwed.
 
CoolB said:
Ebony Maw was a beast. He destroyed them all in direct combat. I wouldn't say it was easy to kill him considering he had already murked anyone he faced on earth and left with the sorcerer supreme pretty damn easily. His death was convenient if anything. I also had no problem with his voice. It was just part of his menacing character.
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TBF, without the tractor beam, Maw was going down.
They were also lucky that Hulk had Post Traumatic Erectile Dysfunction. If Hulk comes out to play in NYC, then the Dark Order get completely wiped out in NYC & Scotland and Earth keeps both Infinity Stones and Thor still gets Stormbreaker.
 
Magooglie said:
Aren't they trying to make a New Gods movie? They probably thought they could segue into Darkseid with it but now they're just screwed.
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It's funny because Marvel is in talks to do an Eternals Movie so Marvel will beat them to that. I would make so that The Eternals have similarities to he New Gods just to piss people off, be subtle about it so they don't get sued.
 
heavyarms21 said:
It's funny because Marvel is in talks to do an Eternals Movie so Marvel will beat them to that. I would make so that The Eternals have similarities to he New Gods just to piss people off, be subtle about it so they don't get sued.
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Kirby created the New Gods and the Eternals, so I imagine they're ward protected from suing on those grounds.
 
Zazen said:
1) Thor never fought the Black Order
2) Black Widow never owned anyone, she would have been killed if she fought one on one. Fortunately she had allies
3) Captain America had help. Vision lost his ability to phase early on.
4) Iron Man now has nano technology and he has a lot of experience at this point in fighting bad guys. Thanos probably never encountred a fighter like that before
5) Dr. Strange saw all the future outcomes, he is not going to do anything to put the future in jeopardy.
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I am not buying it. Black Widow should have been owned in that first fight sequence (allies or no allies). She was fighting far more powerful entities.

The whole Vision thing wasn't explained well and it seemed inconsistent.
 
Zazen said:
Thanos defeated Thor, that is why he goes on the quest for the axe. He knows he is unable to beat him without it.

When speaking with Rocket

"He's never fought me twice"
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And Thor was coming off a huge battle that really took a toll on him.
 
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