Movies AVENGERS: INFINITY WAR Thread v.10

[Deleted member 429137]

I haven’t read the comics and I don’t recall IW covering this, when did Thanos know having all 6 Infinity Stones would give him the power to end half of life in the universe? Because it would be a crazy coincidence if he didn’t know until after he was already on his campaign killing off half of planet’s populations then all of a sudden there is a power out there that let’s him do that very thing with a snap of the finger.

In the comics, killing half the universe was incidental to his real goal and it came to him well after acquiring the gems.

In the movie... I'm not sure. I assume he's been a prolific serial killer all his life.

 

[Fatt Hughes]

Weekend box office came much lower than what I estimated. Despite the spin of 2nd biggest second weekend, there's a significant gulf between TFA's second weekend and I.W. I was expecting deferred viewing to the weekend, as dailys between I.W. were lagging behind TFA's, which had the luxory of being released during Xmas holidays. I estimated second weekend at $125 mill up to $135. TFA had a second weekend of $145 m.

Domestically at 10 days I.W. $450,806,540 TFA: $540,058,914

 

[SmilinDesperado]

He also fooled Odin for a bit. I dont think Ebony Maw is a magic user though. Dr Strange about to hold Thanos off with his magic for a bit.

Odin is powerful, but he isn't known for being some sort of mastermind, or schemer. He is also Loki's father, so he would have less reason to not trust him.

Thanos is known for being brilliant. And he knows that he should not trust Loki. Loki was selling out his own family and people to work with Thanos.

Let's also remember that Thanos doesn't mind a fight. He likes the game. At any moment he could have ended the fight between him , Strange, Stark, and the rest of the heroes. He could have used the reality stone and just turned them all to dirt if he wanted.
In the comics, what ended up causing Thanos' defeat was his pride. His underestimatation of the people around him was what brought his loss.

 

[MadSquabbles500]

When is the next one coming out? I hope its not ten years down the road.

 

[Zazen]

Update: May 6, 2018

AVENGERS: INFINITY WAR Earns Heroic $112.5 Million in Second Weekend

Disney and Marvel's Avengers: Infinity War continued to dominate the early summer box office, earning $112.5 million domestically from 4,474 theaters to score the second-biggest sophomore outing in history as it jumped the $1 billion mark faster than any film in history globally.

Overseas, the mega-superhero mashup grossed another $162.6 million for a foreign total of $713.3 million and $1.164 billion worldwide.

Infinity War joined the billion-dollar club on Saturday, its 11th day in release. That bests the 12 days it took Force Awakens. Infinity War becomes the 34th movie to cross $1 billion at the global box office, not accounting for inflation. The Disney empire lays claim to 17 of those titles — or half.

Force Awakens is the record holder for biggest second weekend ($149.2 million) in North America, while Infinity War nudged aside Black Panther ($111.7 million). Jurassic World ($106.6 million) and The Avengers ($103.1 million) follow.

Infinity War fell 56 percent domestically, a respectable decline for a superhero tentpole. Marvel's Black Pantherwas an exception in falling just 45 percent. The first Avengers fell 50 percent, while Avengers: Age of Ultron fell 59 percent and Captain America: Civil War, declined 60 percent.

Weekend Box Office: 'Avengers: Infinity War' Earns Heroic $112.5 Million in Second Outing

Very disappointed. Thought we had a real chance at 140 - 150 with good word of mouth. IW opened up 50 milllion more than black panther but 2nd weekend only earns half a million more? What is going on?

It looks like Black Panther will remain champion. Can't see IW winning now with so many blockbusters coming up

 

[SaiWa]

Weekend box office came much lower than what I estimated. Despite the spin of 2nd biggest second weekend, there's a significant gulf between TFA's second weekend and I.W. I was expecting deferred viewing to the weekend, as dailys between I.W. were lagging behind TFA's, which had the luxory of being released during Xmas holidays. I estimated second weekend at $125 mill up to $135. TFA had a second weekend of $145 m.

To be expected. 2nd week of TFA is Xmas and post Xmas when a large portion of the country is on vacation. They’re filling up the theater even during the day whereas people have to work last week.

 

[SmilinDesperado]

Saw avengers last night again. Just appreciating what I saw this time instead of analyzing the film.

I noticed this time almost every fight scene has an over the top moment. From spider mans new armor to thanos throwing a moon. Theres so much WOW factor that how could this not be the best comic movie ever brought to life.

I could watch this film again and again and never get tired of it. After the 4th watch it still stands strong at 10/10

This is the first time im going to watch a movie 3 times in a row in the theater.
I'll be taking my chick for her first time tomorrow , and I'm almost as excited to see it tomorrow as I was the first time

 

[SmilinDesperado]

It was good, but I wasn't super high on it. The story jumped around early on, and I felt like there was some inconsistency in heroes' powers in this film.

Whose powers were inconsistent?

 

[SaiWa]

In the comics, what ended up causing Thanos' defeat was his pride. His underestimatation of the people around him was what brought his loss.

Actually thanos defeated himself and it wasn’t based on pride. It was because deep down inside he felt unworthy of this power and doesn’t believe anyone should. He allowed himself to be defeated.

 

[Magooglie]

I haven’t read the comics and I don’t recall IW covering this, when did Thanos know having all 6 Infinity Stones would give him the power to end half of life in the universe? Because it would be a crazy coincidence if he didn’t know until after he was already on his campaign killing off half of planet’s populations then all of a sudden there is a power out there that let’s him do that very thing with a snap of the finger.

They don't actually say. He has different motives in the comics and IW doesn't mention when he found out about the stones or how old he is. He culled Gamora's planet 20 years ago and he probably constructed the gauntlet in the time when Loki took over asgard. But like KILL KILL said whatever anyone's goals are the stones can help them achieve that goal.

 

[Kiyashin]

I haven’t read the comics and I don’t recall IW covering this, when did Thanos know having all 6 Infinity Stones would give him the power to end half of life in the universe? Because it would be a crazy coincidence if he didn’t know until after he was already on his campaign killing off half of planet’s populations then all of a sudden there is a power out there that let’s him do that very thing with a snap of the finger.

In the comics it's Mistress Death who gives Thanos the quest to seek the gems and thereby end half the life in the universe. In the movie, dunno how he actually knows but seems like everyone knows what Inifinity stones are so maybe it was just a badly kept secret.

 

[SmilinDesperado]

Actually thanos defeated himself and it wasn’t based on pride. It was because deep down inside he felt unworthy of this power and doesn’t believe anyone should. He allowed himself to be defeated.

That was part of it , yes.
But he intentionally lowers his power level in the comics so that the heroes have somewhat of a chance of competing against him. And that leads to his fight with the cosmic entities, him leaving his body for the astral plane, and giving Nebula a chance to get the gauntlet. It was a mixture of pride, and trying to impress Lady Death.
In the end, yes, they do say that he deep down he didn't feel he was worthy of the power, but had Death accepted him, he would have been with her.
I'd say his pride, and love for Death was a bigger factor than that deep feeling of unworthiness he had

 

[SaiWa]

That was part of it , yes.
But he intentionally lowers his power level in the comics so that the heroes have somewhat of a chance of competing against him. It was a mixture of pride, and trying to impress Lady Death.
In the end, yes, they do say that he deep down he didn't feel he was worthy of the power, but had Death accepted him, he would have been with her.
I'd say his pride, and love for Death was a bigger factor than that deep feeling of unworthiness he had

Nah he could have used the reality and soul gem to force death to love him but didn’t because it would have been fake.

He had way too much power to be defeated. The only reason he lost is because he allowed it.

 

[Tabarnakos]

In the movie... I'm not sure. I assume he's been a prolific serial killer all his life.

Indeed but maybe not all of his life. In the MCU that is

Even before he got the stones he already had invaded countless planets and wiped out half it's population. It's just that he had to do it the good old way.with huge armies. The stones and gauntlet just made it much much faster and easier. But at that point he already was a genocidal manic.

In the MCU the destruction of Titan is what fucked up Thanos. Had that not happened he may never have become a cosmic mass murderer and his path may have been different. In the comics he was already bad the day he was born. Hell he tried to kill his own mother. So i think no matter what happened he was pre destined to become a a bad guy.

 

[Magooglie]

Indeed but maybe not all of his life. In the MCU that is

Even before he got the stones he already had invaded countless planets and wiped out half it's population. It's just that he had to do it the good old way.with huge armies. The stones and gauntlet just made it much much faster and easier. But at that point he already was a genocidal manic.

In the MCU the destruction of Titan is what fucked up Thanos. Had that not happened he may never have become a cosmic mass murderer and his path may have been different. In the comics he was already bad the day he was born. Hell he tried to kill his own mother. So i think no matter what happened he was pre destined to become a a bad guy.

He thinks what he's doing is right and he says that Gamora's planet is now a paradise. So he could have been testing to see what the effects of killing half a planet do to it.

 

[SmilinDesperado]

Nah he could have used the reality and soul gem to force death to love him but didn’t because it would have been fake.

He had way too much power to be defeated. The only reason he lost is because he allowed it.

And that goes back to his pride. He wasn't going to use his powers to just make someone love him. Thanos, despite his brilliance, has always been portrayed as a flawed character

And It wasn't just that one thing that led to his downfall
Lol It wasn't like he was like "ahhhh fuck it...I don't want to win "
He wanted Lady Death, and Mephisto was "advising " him on how he could get her. He thought he could do anything with the stones . He was obviously wrong. That was a result of his arrogance

 

[Philo-Publius]

Whose powers were inconsistent?

Spoiler

- Vision and Thor: Both got owned by Thanos' goons.
- Black Widow: She doesn't even have super powers and yet she owned the same goons that owned Vision.
- Captain America: Owns Thanos' goons, while Thor, Vision, and Loki can't.
- Iron Man: Put up a little too good of a fight against Thanos considering he is just a man in body armor.
- Dr. Strange: Seems like he could have used his talents/powers much more than he actually did.

 

[SaiWa]

And that goes back to his pride. He wasn't going to use his powers to just make someone love him. Thanos, despite his brilliance, has always been portrayed as a flawed character

And It wasn't just that one thing that led to his downfall
Lol It wasn't like he was like "ahhhh fuck it...I don't want to win "
He wanted Lady Death, and Mephisto was "advising " him on how he could get her. He thought he could do anything with the stones . He was obviously wrong. That was a result of his arrogance

I don’t think so. Thanos is as calculating and as evil as anyone can be. He can do anything with the stones. He allowed those mistakes to happen because he wanted to lose. Allowing nebula the opportunity to touch the gauntlet and briefly claim the power proves it.

There simply were too many mistakes that Thanos did even when he possessed all the abilities of the stones. Time stone alone allows him to know his future and he did nothing to prevent it.

 

[Zazen]

Spoiler

- Vision and Thor: Both got owned by Thanos' goons.
- Black Widow: She doesn't even have super powers and yet she owned the same goons that owned Vision.
- Captain America: Owns Thanos' goons, while Thor, Vision, and Loki can't.
- Iron Man: Put up a little too good of a fight against Thanos considering he is just a man in body armor.
- Dr. Strange: Seems like he could have used his talents/powers much more than he actually did.

1) Thor never fought the Black Order
2) Black Widow never owned anyone, she would have been killed if she fought one on one. Fortunately she had allies
3) Captain America had help. Vision lost his ability to phase early on.
4) Iron Man now has nano technology and he has a lot of experience at this point in fighting bad guys. Thanos probably never encountred a fighter like that before
5) Dr. Strange saw all the future outcomes, he is not going to do anything to put the future in jeopardy.

 

[Strange King]

This is the first time im going to watch a movie 3 times in a row in the theater.
I'll be taking my chick for her first time tomorrow , and I'm almost as excited to see it tomorrow as I was the first time

ya it definitely holds up through multiple viewings