Movies AVENGERS: INFINITY WAR Thread v.10

[MayhemMonkey]

He's experienced that emotion already so he could react to it better this time. When he blasted his dad after learning about his mother's death it led to his other dad dying. So he should have double experience. It's like if they had Hank Pym beat his wife every movie and he never learned not to do it. And the excuse was: Hank Pym is a wife beater, that's part of who he is! It's not good to see destructive behavior repeated. Smartass behavior, tactical genius behavior, repeat those. But stupid destructive behavior, let the character learn and grow. What, he's going to come back from dustville and go "my bad, thanks avengers for saving everyone even though I was a dumbass." Poor character trajectory.

so experiencing grief once means you will never feel that pain again? because? experience?

na sorry dude, we're going to have to agree to disagree here. I dont see how that makes any sense. when he went to shoot Gamora he didnt have to process her death because he didnt actually shoot her..... he was just prepared to shoot her. It was obvious that his intention was always to save Gamora

 

[Mike]

Black Panther actually did use the charge power in his suit. He used it against Thanos' version of Hulk.

A lot of people are complaining about Vision's weakness, but he was sneak attacked in the very beginning while walking down the street with his girl. He was essentially taken out of the fight from the get go. Dude got a blade through his gut. He wasn't just beat up.

And styles make fights . Thanos has different powers than Maw. Strange takes a bit of time to cast his spells,he can do that with Thanos, and he was fighting Thanos with a group.
And it's not like Strange CAN'T beat him. But Maw got the first round

Yeah Vision is insanely powerful, so I took him getting ambushed and injured as the writers way of making him vulnerable. Which makes sense with a large part of the story involving him being hunted. Full power vision probably beats his henchmen down.

 

[MiniCraque]

I saw Guardians 2 twice in the theater. i loved it, but not as much as rhe first only because, you ready? The music.

But everyone was awesome AGAIN. Groot was cute, nebula and gamora doing a tribute to north by northwest, And Yondu.

Not to mention, kurt Russell being amazing. It's such a fun sequel.

I agree that the sound track for the first music has better songs, but the second movie uses them in a way that's more connected to the story. The Chain by Fleetwood Mac is the perfect example.



It comes full circle and is played again during the final boss fight.

 

[Bumblebeef]

i also liked how they gave gamora a deeper story.

 

[minute bull]

I knew it was gonna be bad when I, as a lifelong comics nerd, had no idea WTF was going on during half of BvS. Flashbacks on top of dream sequences on top of visions of alternate realities. With very little explanation and no setup. Nonsensical character motivations, everything dark and bleak and depressing. I honestly doubt I'd ever watch BvS again. Can't imagine getting that bored.

It's not .... terrible??? There's some really great spectacle despite the story eliciting nothing better than this reaction:

 

[Magooglie]

so experiencing grief once means you will never feel that pain again? because? experience?

na sorry dude, we're going to have to agree to disagree here. I dont see how that makes any sense. when he went to shoot Gamora he didnt have to process her death because he didnt actually shoot her..... he was just prepared to shoot her. It was obvious that his intention was always to save Gamora

Of course you'll feel the pain, experience is there so you know how to channel those emotions. And he wasn't just prepared to shoot. He pulled the trigger. His intention, or at least her intention, was to save the galaxy. He was supposed to guard it and he didn't. By ruining the plan he dishonored Gamora.

 

[MayhemMonkey]

I agree that the sound track for the first music has better songs, but the second movie uses them in a way that's more connected to the story. The Chain by Fleetwood Mac is the perfect example.



It comes full circle and is played again during the final boss fight.

I seen this the other day.... thought it was really well done. Brought the feels out. Thought you might like it

the Guardians movies are the perfect blend of comedy, action and moments that bring the feels..... such a likeable group

edit: and yeah as you say, the music selection in the 2nd movie while not as good individually as the first movie.... they seemed to fit better this time

 

[MikeMcMann]

Reread my post I bluntly state it’s not a fact but a theory.

I don't really care to dig deeper but this was what I was replying to in @TheWorm post. And it was not just you I was replying to as many others stated that as if fact. If you qualified it earlier great.

That battle vs Hulk was done without the use of the power stone. Throughout the film any and every time he would use the stones powers the camera would make a point of shouwing you the gauntlet and stone in use lighting up.

Thanos being able to take out the Hulk fairly easily without any power up surely places him on the top of the power pedestal. That being said i didn’t like the Thor axe shot as Thanos should have been able to evade that with ease. But I’m sure the point was to give the appearance that the Avengers might win.

 

[Tycho- Taylor's Version]

Here's a funny story you guys will appreciate - before last week I had never seen Alien. I'd always heard it was such a great film so I made an effort to disregard any references to it and to not internalize any details I might come across.

So I tried to watch it Saturday night, and made it to within 20 minutes of the end (loved what I saw btw), opting to finish it off the next day, after seeing Avengers.

What are the fucking odds that the ending would be spoiled by motherfucking Peter Parker. My gf almost died laughing at me in the theatre after that bullshit reference and no one could tell why.

Thanks Thanos you big purple asshole!

 

[MayhemMonkey]

Of course you'll feel the pain, experience is there so you know how to channel those emotions. And he wasn't just prepared to shoot. He pulled the trigger. His intention, or at least her intention, was to save the galaxy. He was supposed to guard it and he didn't. By ruining the plan he dishonored Gamora.

yeah but he wasnt able to process the grief because she didnt die. lets say he did kill her at that moment, do you actually think his next move wouldve been any different than his reaction when he found out she had died?

of course it wouldnt, he wouldve attacked immediately out of anger

 

[KONG-D'SNT-TAP]

The bolded is a really good point. Although they're all a part of this larger story, the characterization all feels on point. Keeping the tone from a bunch of different individual movies intact as part of a larger story has to be difficult

Yeah when the Guardians were on screen it felt like a Guardians movie. When they switched to Cap it felt more espionage Bourne-ish. When it was time for Wakanda is felt just like BP.

That shouldn't work but it in fact made this movie special. It was like a giant love letter to the fans.

The exact opposite of the last jedi. Which just shit on the fan base. The last jedi was like if hulk hogan lost to AndRe at WM 3 instead.

 

[minute bull]

Here's a funny story you guys will appreciate - before last week I had never seen Alien. I'd always heard it was such a great film so I made an effort to disregard any references to it and to not internalize any details I might come across.

So I tried to watch it Saturday night, and made it to within 20 minutes of the end (loved what I saw btw), opting to finish it off the next day, after seeing Avengers.

What are the fucking odds that the ending would be spoiled by motherfucking Peter Parker. My gf almost died laughing at me in the theatre after that bullshit reference and no one could tell why.

Thanks Thanos you big purple asshole!

THAT STORY SUCKED AND I'M NOT BUYING THE DVD.

 

[Magooglie]

yeah but he wasnt able to process the grief because she didnt die. lets say he did kill her at that moment, do you actually think his next move wouldve been any different than his reaction when he found out she had died?

of course it wouldnt, he wouldve attacked immediately out of anger

He probably would have tried to kill Thanos because Thanos still has 3 stones. Preparation for her to die and control of himself would have been good character trajectory, especially after the events of the previous GOTG films. But instead we got bad character trajectory where it's Gamora Gamora Gamora I lub her so much. Imagine Thanos didn't kill Gamora and was like "Gamora is on Vormir aaah." If Quill had said "Peace out everyone, i'm taking Nebula's ship and going to Vormir because I love her so much" that would have been in line with what he did when he found out she was dead. And people would be like "Oh, he loves her so much, perfectly reasonable response."

 

[MikeMcMann]

But like the other guy said, every time he does use the stones they glow. They go out of their way to show that in the movie. Just because it's not explicitly spelled out in dialogue doesn't mean it isn't obvious.

Honest question here.

Do they glow the entire time they are being used or just when fired up?

We do not know if Thanos activated the power stone just prior to that scene when he basically KO'd Thor and the rest of his crew so he might have still been under the effect.

 

[MayhemMonkey]

He probably would have tried to kill Thanos because Thanos still has 3 stones. Preparation for her to die and control of himself would have been good character trajectory, especially after the events of the previous GOTG films. But instead we got bad character trajectory where it's Gamora Gamora Gamora I lub her so much. Imagine Thanos didn't kill Gamora and was like "Gamora is on Vormir aaah." If Quill had said "Peace out everyone, i'm taking Nebula's ship and going to Vormir because I love her so much" that would have been in line with what he did when he found out she was dead. And people would be like "Oh, he loves her so much, perfectly reasonable response."

not every character is going to grow into Captain America levels of rationality, you have unrealistic expectations for the character that has been portrayed. This movie showed a consistent character arc from previous movies

anyway lets get off this subject .. its going nowhere, we both clearly wont agree lol

 

[ufcfan4]

Of course you'll feel the pain, experience is there so you know how to channel those emotions. And he wasn't just prepared to shoot. He pulled the trigger. His intention, or at least her intention, was to save the galaxy. He was supposed to guard it and he didn't. By ruining the plan he dishonored Gamora.

My assumption was that Quill was even more horrified and jarred by the news of Gamora’s death than he would have been because he probably figured when Nebula contacted them that she had a knowledge of where Gamora was or a plan by which to get her back from Thanos. Why would Nebula contact them otherwise? So he fully expected, going in, that Gamora would not only still be alive but they would have the opportunity to save her. Learning that she was dead was too much for him and completely threw him for a loop.

 

[Magooglie]

not every character is going to grow into Captain America levels of rationality, you have unrealistic expectations for the character that has been portrayed. This movie showed a consistent character arc from previous movies

I don't think Captain America is all that rational. I agree that it's consistent, Quill is a dumb dumb dummy. Peter #2.

 

[Bumblebeef]

I don't think Captain America is all that rational. I agree that it's consistent, Quill is a dumb dumb dummy. Peter #2.

 

[MikeMcMann]

no lol, I didnt even mean that in an offensive way. I just meant about Rocket being mature, it seems like you are trying to convince yourself of something that isnt true. Neither Rocket or Quill are mature.... but both have had mature moments.... while both have made fuck ups as well.

Also Rocket is a tactical genius as well as Quill, but its Quill that takes charge in key moments. also LOL at saying Quill killed trillions. indirectly yes, his reaction caused them to fail their mission. but he didnt kill anyone

I think you are missing his point though.

He is saying Rocket CAN exhibit the qualities of a good Captain, particularly when it serves him when he is Captain of his own ship. As you say, he can have mature moments. That is what you have been disagreeing with despite the fact that it did seem Rocket was a good and mature Captain of that ship.

 

[MayhemMonkey]

I don't think Captain America is all that rational. I agree that it's consistent, Quill is a dumb dumb dummy. Peter #2.