Australian Gaming PC thread

Awesome, glad it worked out. I guess maybe it’s a difference in bezel size or something regarding the screen size difference?

I think it's the height. I am just used to a larger screen on the vertical axis.

I'll get used to it. As I said in another post, D4 looks super pretty and smooth now so that's the main thing for me.
 
Hi so, bumping an old thread for a new requirement. I need a new HTPC for my parents to use. I bought them a 55 inch LG OLED and a Sonos soundbar so as the built in speakers were fairly average. They are currently just using a mouse and smart TV functionality which is pretty crap.

Anyone have any experience with HTPC's?
Just needs the following:
-to run Windows
-Be quiet.
-Be able to run VLC/browser for youtube etc.
- Have output to HDMI to connect to the TV.
- I can put a midi tower etc behind the TV stand but best case scenario would be something flat I could put on a shelf on the TV cabinet.

Figured it doesn't hurt to ask for opinions in here.
 
Hi so, bumping an old thread for a new requirement. I need a new HTPC for my parents to use. I bought them a 55 inch LG OLED and a Sonos soundbar so as the built in speakers were fairly average. They are currently just using a mouse and smart TV functionality which is pretty crap.

Anyone have any experience with HTPC's?
Just needs the following:
-to run Windows
-Be quiet.
-Be able to run VLC/browser for youtube etc.
- Have output to HDMI to connect to the TV.
- I can put a midi tower etc behind the TV stand but best case scenario would be something flat I could put on a shelf on the TV cabinet.

Figured it doesn't hurt to ask for opinions in here.
If you intend to assemble it yourself here is the SFF case spreadsheet maintained by the SFF network. This way you can identify which are most reasonably priced in your country. Note the tabs along the bottom:



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As for the processor, the core of the build, the integrated graphics on any of the Intel chips will be more than enough. With AMD, you just want to be sure it includes integrated graphics, and the processors with a "G" at the end are their desktop products targeting this niche. The older processors (ex. AMD R5-4600G, Intel i3-12100) are adequate. You just want them to be new enough that you can find a motherboard and RAM for them still in stock.

That 4600G for $138 via Amazon.au is the winner if you build yourself. Build around it. Below here I've linked the specs of the onboard GPU. It's not ideal for modern gaming, but it's more than enough for 4K media playback. In fact, it's about on par with the Xbox One:
 
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I'll add that I skimmed over your options for cases, and while the shelf-friendly case options I'm seeing are plentiful and reasonably priced, the major drawback I'm noticing is that really small motherboards (ex. ITX) are unattractively expensive. This disqualifies the Silverstone SUGO S13 case, for example, which is an ancient design, and it's been around forever because what isn't broken shouldn't be fixed. It's a tried-and-tested HTPC case. But the cheapest motherboard compatible with it I'm seeing is $173. The cheapest Micro-ATX motherboard, comparatively, start at just $89.

Because typically for an HTPC you'd be after this PCPP set of filters for your cases:

Fortunately, there are still case options that support mATX cases like the Silverstone ML03B that will run you a much smaller premium while staying with a shelf-type build.
 
I'll add that I skimmed over your options for cases, and while the shelf-friendly case options I'm seeing are plentiful and reasonably priced, the major drawback I'm noticing is that really small motherboards (ex. ITX) are unattractively expensive. This disqualifies the Silverstone SUGO S13 case, for example, which is an ancient design, and it's been around forever because what isn't broken shouldn't be fixed. It's a tried-and-tested HTPC case. But the cheapest motherboard compatible with it I'm seeing is $173. The cheapest Micro-ATX motherboard, comparatively, start at just $89.

Because typically for an HTPC you'd be after this PCPP set of filters for your cases:

Fortunately, there are still case options that support mATX cases like the Silverstone ML03B that will run you a much smaller premium while staying with a shelf-type build.
Aah nice, they look like the old Shuttle cases I used to buy back in the day.

I'm not that concerned about the price, I just want small and as quiet as possible.

You recommended AMD for my PC, would you also recommend it for HTPC's as well or should I look at Intel?
 
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Aah nice, they look like the old Shuttle cases I used to buy back in the day.

I'm not that concerned about the price, I just want small and as quiet as possible.

You recommended AMD for my PC, would you also recommend it for HTPC's as well or should I look at Intel?
Whether AMD or Intel always depends. Here in the states it's almost always cheaper to buy a prebuilt mini PC, or cheapest of all, a refuribished old business desktop, to use as an HTPC. Most who build themselves, usually for the advantage of being able to pick the case design/size, and with the goals you've named, so that it will be as quiet as possible, still try to keep costs down. HTPC tasks aren't very demanding, and so in the past these builders have gravitated towards i3's or even Pentiums on the Intel side, or whatever APU AMD was offering on their side. And buying a few generations back is fine.

Ultimately, the lowest TDP, and the best performance-per-watt, become much more desirable for HTPC processors. If cost isn't the primary criterion, then this only becomes even more of a priority. Because you're working with much less space where heat can build, and when heat builds, the fans kick up, and when that happens, you get more noise.

Intel actually makes processors with this specific goal in mind for the desktop space. They are the "T" processors (ex. i7-14700T). They tend to come at a stiff premium largely because not many are made. I don't even see any available in the AUS markets.

However, those T processors are really only something that builders tend to chase if they are trying to build a really powerful gaming comp in a very small form factor case. One accepts you will pay a huge premium for that goal. Because the 4600G, 5600G, or that 12th gen i3-12100 are all processors that produce a small amount of heat, respectively, compared to the most powerful processors out there. And as I said, they are already overkill for media playback.

That's why I recommended the 4600G. It does what you want. You could get the 5600G, or even the much newer 8600G/8700G. But even the 4600G is overkill. And any processor above the i3-12100 on the Intel side won't add much. Because the 12100 already has the Intel UHD 730 for the integrated graphics. Even the 14th gen i3's still use that. The i5-12500 kicks it up to the Intel UHD 770, but again, the UHD 730 is already more than enough. And the CPU performance is more than enough. So you just end up spending more money to add more heat.
 
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