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K... so that Alienware is there?
Thought you were looking for something to be shipped there from abroad.
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K... so that Alienware is there?
Thought you were looking for something to be shipped there from abroad.
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No comment...
I have had my company since 2003 so I am very well acquainted with how tax deductions work.
Buying an expensive PC from Dell is a lot easier to justify on a tax return than some random gaming PC company.
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No. Not interested in trying to get something shipped internationally currently and having it arrive mid march LOL
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That's going to complicate things.
Nevermind about those PC builder sites because they're all either in China or the USA.
I'd look up any PC Builder or Custom PC websites that are owned & operated in Australia and go from there.
If you don't have any you're shit out of luck.
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You just can't get any parts on the sites I looked at.
I'm on call over Christmas/new years so I thought I'd get some gaming in.
At least Dell has stock on hand. Others, IF they even have a 3090 card on hand it's over 3 grand on it's own.
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There is? This is actually news to me.
I figured there would at least be some gamers on Mayberry here who would keep u with the latest hardware.
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Yeah, that's a good call. Screw old, slow mechanical drives.
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Well, you're certainly overpaying unless you're planning on playing games at 4K/100+FPS.
For that price I'd at least want water cooling for the CPU & GPU, but I bet that rig keeps them cool.
I'd still wait for @Madmick's final word but if your heart is set on playing games over Christmas and New Years it looks like that's your best bet.
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Overpaying possibly but won't need to upgrade for a long time if I buy it.
I'd be interested to hear what @Madmick says about the hardware.
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What computer do you have now?
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I didn't think you Australians carried a substantial premium over the US market, anymore, once currencies are adjusted, but at $4285 USD, here in the states, that's definitely not a great deal for a prebuilt. Besides, the Alienwares are trash (R10, R11, R12). Poor ventilation and terrible expansion capability. The Alienware R13 apparently is slightly better, but I'd still stay away from them.
I've been told Mwave is your major electronics retailer. They seem to be pursuing the same model that Microcenter commands here, though they can't compete on pricing. They even have a custom building service. I would strongly recommend this alternative assuming it's suitable for your tax deduction ambitions:
https://www.mwave.com.au/tools/pc-c...37828828-0-gaNycGzNCKU#Gaming_PCs_by_Platform
Unfortunately, it doesn't have an easy share tool.
- Cooler Master MasterBox TD500 RGB ATX Mid-Tower Case
- Lighting: None
- Corsair iCUE H115i RGB PRO XT 280mm Liquid CPU Cooler
- Intel Core i5-12600KF 10 Core LGA 1700 Unlocked CPU Processor*
- Gigabyte Z690 AORUS ELITE AX DDR4 LGA 1700 ATX Motherboard
- G.Skill Trident Z Neo RGB 32GB (2x 16GB) CL18 DDR4 3600MHz Memory
- MSI GeForce RTX 3080 Ti SUPRIM X 12GB Video Card**
- Corsair HX1000M 1000W 80 Plus Platinum Modular Power Supply
- Samsung 970 EVO Plus 1TB NVMe 1.3 M.2 (2280) 3-Bit V-NAND SSD - MZ-V7S1T0BW
- Seagate ST2000DM008 2TB BarraCuda 3.5" 7200RPM SATA3 Desktop Hard Drive
- Razer BlackShark V2 X Wired Gaming Headset [complimentary]
- Windows 10 Home 64-bit OEM DVD
- Mwave Custom PC Assembly and Testing Service
- Advanced Transportation Packing Solution
- TOTAL = $5304 AUD
Notes:
*This CPU is a more powerful gaming processor than the 11900K. You can upgrade this selection if you like, but I don't like the cost/performance tradeoff. If you do upgrade, take one of these:
- i7-12700K = +$230
- i9-12900KF = +$500
Better parts down the board than the Alienware, plus a good complimentary headset, and it's ~$650 AUD cheaper.
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I wouldn't think it would make much difference.
A gaming pc from Dell vs a custom pc from elsewhere.
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Thanks for that Mick. Yeah EVERYTHING is super expensive currently as no-one has any stock and the retailers that do have stock are charging a huge premium. I'll have a look.
LOL, I didn't even realise that there was a 12th generation of Intel processors out now.
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Any idea what the difference between the i9-12900KF and the i9-12900K is?
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The 12900K comes with an onboard GPU. That will go unused with the RTX 3080 Ti present. The only conceivable time it would be useful is if your GPU crapped out, you could temporarily employ it so that the computer was useable until you waited for a replacement.
The 12900K offers virtually zero gaming performance over the 12700K. If you want that iGPU, and you want essentially the best-in-the-world CPU gaming performance available, today, I'd recommend the 12700K. Of course, if money doesn't matter, YOLO, 12900K.
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Cool, thanks. I was screwing around with the specs a bit:
- Cooler Master Silencio S600 Tempered Glass Mid-Tower ATX Case - as that other case is just ugly
- Samsung 980 Pro 2TB PCIe 4.0 NVMe M.2 SSD - MZ-V8P2T0BW - secondary storage
- Intel Core i9-12900KF 16 Core LGA 1700 Unlocked CPU Processor - YOLO I guess?
- Windows 10 pro - screw the home version.
Apart from this, as suggested. Somehow, all in stock shockingly.
Any issues with my substitutions?
Is the SUPRIM really as good, even with half the ram of the 3090?
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I chose that case because it is one of the best airflow cases on the market, with stellar reviews, and happened to be the cheapest of all their options. The Silencio is also good, but those cases trade airflow for silence, and as modern case reviews have shown, you get better thermal:acoustic performance ratio with higher airflow cases, so if you just calibrate the fans to run at a lower speed, they're both quieter and cooler. That's a perfectly viable case, with positive reviews, but if you want a more minimalist, professional-type design, I'd suggest one of the following:
- (-$10) Phanteks Eclipse P400A D-RGB Tempered Glass Mid-Tower E-ATX Case - Black
- (+$60) Lian Li PC-O11 Dynamic Tempered Glass Mid Tower Case - Black
This is a far superior drive to the 970 EVO. Make it the primary drive. You don't have to take a secondary drive.
Sure, it's the best.
The only tangible benefit to the Pro version is that you can move it to another computer down the road. If you don't intend to do that, you're wasting $50.
VRAM is the only meaningful benefit to the 3090. It's terribly overpriced, and the card will most almost certainly age out from a performance deficit long before 12GB becomes a VRAM deficit. But the principal reason I didn't offer a 3090 option is that they don't offer one.
But to answer your question, yes, right now, that 3080 Ti Suprim will outperform the reference 3090 (and also the 3090 in that Alienware). It will average a higher FPS in games.
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I chose that case because it is one of the best airflow cases on the market, wiht stellar reviews, and happened to be the cheapest of all their options. The Silencio is also good, but those cases trade airflow for silence, and as modern case reviews have shown, you get better thermal:acoustic performance ratio with higher airflow cases, so if you just calibrate the fans to run at a lower speed, they're both quieter and cooler. That's a perfect viable case, with positive reviews, but if you want a more minimalist, professional-type design, I'd suggest one of the following:
- (-$10) Phanteks Eclipse P400A D-RGB Tempered Glass Mid-Tower E-ATX Case - Black
- (+$60) Lian Li PC-O11 Dynamic Tempered Glass Mid Tower Case - Black
This is a far superior drive to the 970 EVO. Make it the primary drive. You don't have to take a secondary drive.
Sure, it's the best.
The only tangible benefit to the Pro version is that you can move it to another computer down the road. If you don't intend to do that, you're wasting $50.
VRAM is the only meaningful benefit to the 3090. It's terribly overpriced, and the card will most almost certainly age out from a performance deficit long before 12GB becomes a VRAM deficit. But the principal reason I didn't offer a 3090 option is that they don't offer one.
But to answer your question, yes, right now, that 3080 Ti Suprim will outperform the reference 3090 (and also the 3090 in that Alienware). It will average a higher FPS in games.
I picked the Lian Li and dropped the primary 970 evo drive and just stuck with the 2TB 980.
I was just going to edit my original post after looking through those specific benchmarks on that site.
One last question. Do you have any suggestions for a good keyboard? I have a razor one but it is old and has seen better days.
