Social Aunt Jemima has been cancelled

[Sketch]

You know there were nice clothes in the 19th century. Moreover, you do understand that Quaker Oats had the money to buy one or two nice dresses for their wardrobe. See the white lady below:

She's always depicted poorly dressed, typically in servitude and enjoying her servitude. Always waiting on white people.

Chef Boyardee got a chef's uniform and a hat with his name on it.

She looks happy here.

 

[Hadron90]

It’s an indisputably racist holdover from a foregone era but I’m not sure what the end goal is here and how you even define that “end.”

As far as creating racial harmony is concerned, I would hardly call these moves a giant leap for mankind — even cumulatively.

This isn’t changing hearts and minds and I would venture to guess it is making racists even more racist than they already were.

She's not a racist holdover. That's just the Ministry of Truth rewriting history. That model is a real person, who actually dressed like that, and was paid very handsomely for her work. In fact, she was the first living person to ever have their likeness trademarked. She was an anti-poverty activist over her whole life and received many awards for both her activism and her work with the pancake brand.

We are seeing a push to rewrite everything prior to today as a racist act. America has to be portrayed as inherently racist to its core, through and through, at all times. If you ever come across a heartwarming story of racial progress happening in the past, be assured it is actually fake and the reality is that is was actually super racist--that's what they want you to believe.

 

[Sketch]

Hard to imagine why anyone thought this was inappropriate:

I wonder if the 'Rag Doll Family' is still around? Perhaps on Ebay or something. A collectors item, they don't do that anymore.

 

[Amerikuracana]

Hard to imagine why anyone thought this was inappropriate:

Why?

 

[IndyCovaHart]

She's not a racist holdover. That's just the Ministry of Truth rewriting history. That model is a real person, who actually dressed like that, and was paid very handsomely for her work. In fact, she was the first living person to ever have their likeness trademarked. She was an anti-poverty activist over her whole life and received many awards for both her activism and her work with the pancake brand.

We are seeing a push to rewrite everything prior to today as a racist act. America has to be portrayed as inherently racist to its core, through and through, at all times. If you ever come across a heartwarming story of racial progress happening in the past, be assured it is actually fake and the reality is that is was actually super racist--that's what they want you to believe.

Hmmmm I will have to look into it more deeply although I was definitely scratching my head about Gone With the Wind considering how big it was that Hattie McDaniel received such high acclaim for her performance.

It seems counterintuitive to cancel the film responsible for the first African-American Academy Award winner.

Baby with the bath water.

 

[Hadron90]

Hmmmm I will have to look into it more deeply although I was definitely scratching my head about Gone With the Wind considering how big it was that Hattie McDaniel received such high acclaim for her performance.

It seems counterintuitive to cancel the film responsible for the first African-American Academy Award winner.

Baby with the bath water.

Exactly. The "Aunt Jemima" ministrel show they are criticizing was written by a black comedian who became a national sensation. He was so popular with other blacks that theatres began relaxing their restrictions on black attendance because this comedian was able to put so many asses in the seats. And the Aunt Jemima song has a verse about Aunt Jemima going to a white church, finding the worship boring, and leaving it to go back to her black church. Pretty ballsy for the late 1800s. The comedian that wrote Aunt Jemima and the actress that portrayed her should be remember as early civil rights icons, not racist holdovers.

 

[jx820]

Do you understand how racist it is to criticize a portrait of a real freed slave for having too many African features?

Of oourse, that's the obvious problem here. A multi-billion dollar conglomorate is killing off a multi-million dollar brand that's stood for 100 years beacuse they don't want to make peace with their past sins of a woman having too many black features.

The real woman was a former slave. Why would they dress her up as an aristocrat? She was an antipoverty activists, not the Monopoly man.

She wasn't a slave anymore. She was a corporate spokesperson and brand embassador.

The image they were trying to project in those ads isn't "antipoverty activist" its slavery. It's hearkening back to what racist people would consider a better time. I don't get why you are pretending you don't see that.

"R.T Davis Milling Company hired Nancy Green to portray the “mammy” character for Aunt Jemima.

Aunt Jemima was named after a song when Chris Rutt attended a musical concert in 1889 and heard “Old Aunt Jemima” being played by a Black artist wearing an apron and scarf, according to African American Registry.

The song was allegedly sung by slaves." - Source
​

Of course other sources attribute the original character depiction to a minstrel show which is more in keeping with Vaudeville.

Rutt attended a vaudeville show in 1889 where he heard "Aunt Jemima" sung by a blackface performer who was wearing an apron and bandanna headband, according to African American Registry (AAREG).​

I know you understand that she could have been depicted as not being a slave, or not based on minstrel show characatures of black people. I also believe you know who that characature appealed to and why.

 

[badascan]

Everything must look like a gray alien! Wait a second...

 

[Rockapotomuss]

Of oourse, that's the obvious problem here. A multi-billion dollar conglomorate is killing off a multi-million dollar brand that's stood for 100 years beacuse they don't want to make peace with their past sins of a woman having too many black features.



She wasn't a slave anymore. She was a corporate spokesperson and brand embassador.

The image they were trying to project in those ads isn't "antipoverty activist" its slavery. It's hearkening back to what racist people would consider a better time. I don't get why you are pretending you don't see that.

"R.T Davis Milling Company hired Nancy Green to portray the “mammy” character for Aunt Jemima.

Aunt Jemima was named after a song when Chris Rutt attended a musical concert in 1889 and heard “Old Aunt Jemima” being played by a Black artist wearing an apron and scarf, according to African American Registry.

The song was allegedly sung by slaves." - Source
​

Of course other sources attribute the original character depiction to a minstrel show which is more in keeping with Vaudeville.

Rutt attended a vaudeville show in 1889 where he heard "Aunt Jemima" sung by a blackface performer who was wearing an apron and bandanna headband, according to African American Registry (AAREG).​

I know you understand that she could have been depicted as not being a slave, or not based on minstrel show characatures of black people. I also believe you know who that characature appealed to and why.

Erasing all traces of the past doesn't make it go away. This happened. This lady took a big step from slavery to being the first trademarked personality who was adorned by the mainstream. There's tragedy in the circumstances she arose from, and triumph in her success story. It's a mistake to focus solely on the tragedy and throw away the triumph.

We need survivors to be role models so others can heal too.

 

[Hadron90]

Of oourse, that's the obvious problem here. A multi-billion dollar conglomorate is killing off a multi-million dollar brand that's stood for 100 years beacuse they don't want to make peace with their past sins of a woman having too many black features.




She wasn't a slave anymore. She was a corporate spokesperson and brand embassador.

The image they were trying to project in those ads isn't "antipoverty activist" its slavery. It's hearkening back to what racist people would consider a better time. I don't get why you are pretending you don't see that.

"R.T Davis Milling Company hired Nancy Green to portray the “mammy” character for Aunt Jemima.

Aunt Jemima was named after a song when Chris Rutt attended a musical concert in 1889 and heard “Old Aunt Jemima” being played by a Black artist wearing an apron and scarf, according to African American Registry.

The song was allegedly sung by slaves." - Source
​

Of course other sources attribute the original character depiction to a minstrel show which is more in keeping with Vaudeville.

Rutt attended a vaudeville show in 1889 where he heard "Aunt Jemima" sung by a blackface performer who was wearing an apron and bandanna headband, according to African American Registry (AAREG).​

I know you understand that she could have been depicted as not being a slave, or not based on minstrel show characatures of black people. I also believe you know who that characature appealed to and why.

Darn them for depicting this freed slave as a...freed slave! They should have put her in a Tuxedo and top hat and pretended she was an oil baron, because that would have made a lot of sense.

Also, note your goal post moving. You were originally outraged at the packaging that just had her picture. Now you are claiming it wasn't really her likeness after all, but rather than the roots of the characters name.

 

[Hadron90]

Erasing all traces of the past doesn't make it go away. This happened. This lady took a big step from slavery to being the first trademarked personality who was adorned by the mainstream. There's tragedy in the circumstances she arose from, and triumph in her success story. It's a mistake to focus solely on the tragedy and throw away the triumph.

We need survivors to be role models so others can heal too.

The left hate success. They only believe in victimhood. Seeing people overcome adversity and achieve success enrages them.

 

[Oogie Sharp]

I could drink a glass of that syrup. In fact, I'll ceremoniously take about a half dozen spoonfuls before I put it on my waffles/pancakes.

Could give an anatomical fuck about what the label looks like.

 

[Natural Order]

The real woman was a former slave. Why would they dress her up as an aristocrat? She was an antipoverty activists, not the Monopoly man.

Youre quickly becoming one of my favourite reads. Lots of laughs and truths. Out of likes but Id give ya one!

 

[Natural Order]

I could drink a glass of that syrup. In fact, I'll ceremoniously take about a half dozen spoonfuls before I put it on my waffles/pancakes.

Could give an anatomical fuck about what the label looks like.

Protip: Good quality vanilla ice cream drizzled in pure Canadian maple syrup.

You’re welcome.

 

[TheGreatA]

White liberals only like black people with lots of white features. Look at all the pop stars they idolize:
https://www.google.com/search?q=bla...mg&ei=NH3rXqOrGMGjsQWo9JjADw&bih=758&biw=1536

Every female on that list is light skinned and has just a hint of black features. Don't want to look too African, that's racist!

It's sad but true.

A lot of African-Americans are just white people to Africans. Not much of a "black person" at the point when maybe 25% of your heritage comes from Africa, the rest from European/Hispanic background.

Liberia went to shit because the black Africans literally saw the African-American Liberians as a bunch of white dudes ripping them off.

 

[Oogie Sharp]

Protip: Good quality vanilla ice cream drizzled in pure Canadian maple syrup.

You’re welcome.

Love ice cream, vanilla is 2nd for me. Strawberry is GOAT for me.

Had to stop, as I think they they were giving me kidney stones.

I've had 16 of the motherfuckers throughout my life.

YES they are as painful as people say. <45>

 

[jx820]

Erasing all traces of the past doesn't make it go away. This happened. This lady took a big step from slavery to being the first trademarked personality who was adorned by the mainstream. There's tragedy in the circumstances she arose from, and triumph in her success story. It's a mistake to focus solely on the tragedy and throw away the triumph.

We need survivors to be role models so others can heal too.

She could triumph in a nice dress and without wearing a slave costume. Treating her like a person instead of a cartoon slave isn't erasing the past. Not celebrating slavery isn't saying it didn't happen. It's just saying it was bad.

 

[Hadron90]

She could triumph in a nice dress and without wearing a slave costume. Treating her like a person instead of a cartoon slave isn't erasing the past. Not celebrating slavery isn't saying it didn't happen. It's just saying it was bad.

Why would she be cooking pancakes in a nice dress?

 

[jx820]

Darn them for depicting this freed slave as a...freed slave! They should have put her in a Tuxedo and top hat and pretended she was an oil baron, because that would have made a lot of sense.

Also, note your goal post moving. You were originally outraged at the packaging that just had her picture. Now you are claiming it wasn't really her likeness after all, but rather than the roots of the characters name.

It's everything. That's not moving the goal post. It's the name designed to hearken back to slavery. It's the charicature designed to hearken back to slavery.

Of course you would imagine, there was no viable wardrobe option in the 1920s anywhere between slave costume, and a tuxedo. Those were the only two things a person was allowed to wear back then.

God knows this completely period appropriate outfit wasn't viable, only a tux or a slave costume:

Her picture is her dressed as a slave. How are you not getting this (of course you get this I'm just feeding the troll). She was never depicted as a freed slave. She was aunt Jemima at the time of her death in 1929. The old timey garb in those ads is not 1929, it's a damned sight closer to 1829. Because they were marketing an idealized version what racist people would have considered the good old days.

 

[TheGreatA]

She could triumph in a nice dress and without wearing a slave costume. Treating her like a person instead of a cartoon slave isn't erasing the past. Not celebrating slavery isn't saying it didn't happen. It's just saying it was bad.

Is that really a slave costume though?

That's just kind of how people looked like in those days: