Aspinall vs Stipe Miocic

[Goat Poster]

How would this go?

I think Aspinall should cement his legacy with someone that has 20 wins at HW. Jon Jones could be the flavour of the month with 2 measly wins at HW. He needs to think how the name will age in his resume.

 

[Wreckless]

Stipe is like 45 and retired now. Aspinall would knock him out in 12 seconds.

 

[TeenageMutantLesnarTurtle]

Tom should fight Dan Severn

 

[Shaolin Alan]

Stipe would sub Aspainall

 

[Danespina]

Aspinall would get his shots in, clean, but Stipe would just laugh them off, begging him to punch harder.

After a full minute of one-sided action, Aspinall would catch a look into Stipe's eyes and realize that "oh shit", this guy isn't going down...

Suddenly it's Stipe's turn and now Aspinall's tired. He tries circling away, but Stipe is too fast, cutting him off with body kicks.

Now Aspinall's hands are going low and his legs beginning to wobble. Stipe, sensing victory, steps in for the final sequence.

Left hook. Straight right. Body, body, head.

Everything is connecting. The ref is ready to step in --

Then Stipe falls asleep because it's past his bedtime and Aspinall wins.

And Still.

 

[Leinster Rugby]

How would this go?

I think Aspinall should cement his legacy with someone that has 20 wins at HW. Jon Jones could be the flavour of the month with 2 measly wins at HW. He needs to think how the name will age in his resume.

Stop.

Edit: apologies TS, nice trolling.

 

[b00tysweat]

Tom should fight any HW at this point, he's going to miss his chance if he doesn't get scheduled soon

 

[Rampage_Jackson]

Tom handles any version of Stipe and puts this current version into a coma

 

[mkess101]

Gane and Stipe didn’t count as legit wins for the Bone Monster. I’ve heard a few times on Sherdog
Now Sherdoggers are clamoring for Tom to fight Stipe?

Too many stupid cat pics has left you unable to detect sarcasm, bro. TS is mocking the Jones apologists who try to spin beating the ghost of Stipe as meaningful.

 

[10000yearsold]

Too many stupid cat pics has left you unable to detect sarcasm, bro. TS is mocking the Jones apologists who try to spin beating the ghost of Stipe as meaningful.

First of all cat pics are the most important contribution being made to contemporary mma.

Secondly, stipe made it two rounds further than the #1 contender. Say what you want about Stipe’s age, but most these heavyweights aren’t even training submission defense apparently. Shit is reverting in a really weird way.

 

[mkess101]

First of all cat pics are the most important contribution being made to contemporary mma.

Secondly, stipe made it two rounds further than the #1 contender. Say what you want about Stipe’s age, but most these heavyweights aren’t even training submission defense apparently. Shit is reverting in a really weird way.

Well I'm not gonna highjack and start a war over how stupid cat pics are. So, have fun.

As for Stipe, what you're saying isn't that Stipe can still fight. You're saying he's a little better at surviving the ground than Gane. The Stipe fight easily could've been stopped in rd 1. The guy hadn't won a fight in over FOUR YEARS but we're gonna act like it was a meaningful win LMAO? No.

 

[10000yearsold]

Well I'm not gonna highjack and start a war over how stupid cat pics are. So, have fun.

As for Stipe, what you're saying isn't that Stipe can still fight. You're saying he's a little better at surviving the ground than Gane. The Stipe fight easily could've been stopped in rd 1. The guy hadn't won a fight in over FOUR YEARS but we're gonna act like it was a meaningful win LMAO? No.

In a landscape where heavyweights and many light heavyweights and other weights as well no longer even train mma clearly because their real money is in the locker room for posting up slobber knocker low brow kickboxing brawls, Stipe Miocic is one of the few people that the ufc are willing to work with who actually have high level well rounded professional mma experience
I don’t wanna see him fight. Don’t get me wrong.

How many years was Jon gone to return and best the top heavyweight in under a minute?

 

[mkess101]

In a landscape where heavyweights and many light heavyweights and other weights as well no longer even train mma clearly because their real money is in the locker room for posting up slobber knocker low brow kickboxing brawls, Stipe Miocic is one of the few people that the ufc are willing to work with who actually have high level well rounded professional mma experience
I don’t wanna see him fight. Don’t get me wrong.

How many years was Jon gone to return and best the top heavyweight in under a minute?

Let's be clear: Gane wasn't "the best" HW. He was ranked #1 yes, but he was not the best. Every week I see odds where the lower ranked fighter is a huge favorite over the higher ranked one. Rankings don't determine who "the best" is. Josh Van was ranked 14th and Brandon Royval was ranked #1. Van was a slight favorite, and won. Everyone knew those rankings didn't mean shit.

Stipe has high level well rounded experience. So did GSP and Anderson Silva. Think they're still relevant? Again, Stipe hadn't won a fight in over 4 years, and was 42 years old. Trying to paint it as anything but a cherry picked lay-up for Jones is disingenuous.

 

[10000yearsold]

Let's be clear: Gane wasn't "the best" HW. He was ranked #1 yes, but he was not the best. Every week I see odds where the lower ranked fighter is a huge favorite over the higher ranked one. Rankings don't determine who "the best" is. Josh Van was ranked 14th and Brandon Royval was ranked #1. Van was a slight favorite, and won. Everyone knew those rankings didn't mean shit.

Stipe has high level well rounded experience. So did GSP and Anderson Silva. Think they're still relevant? Again, Stipe hadn't won a fight in over 4 years, and was 42 years old. Trying to paint it as anything but a cherry picked lay-up for Jones is disingenuous.

I’m not saying it wasn’t. I’m just saying the heavyweight talent curating and narrative designing of the UFC’s promotion has driven the division into a near void of qualified talent to compete with Jones.

I’m sure there are meaningful business reasons for it, but I’m also sure there are some foolish prideful petty ones too.

 

[mkess101]

I’m not saying it wasn’t. I’m just saying the heavyweight talent curating and narrative designing of the UFC’s promotion has driven the division into a near void of qualified talent to compete with Jones.

I’m sure there are meaningful business reasons for it, but I’m also sure there are some foolish prideful petty ones too.

Let's not pretend Jones wanted "qualified talent" to compete with. He had a guy right in front of him that's wrecked over half the top 10 inside a round and chose not to fight him. The guy was interim champ and the most qualified opponent any champion has had in maybe forever. And Jones ducked him. However thin the division is behind Aspinall (and it is), that's irrelevant to Jones because he had a mega fight with a killer in front of him and the biggest payday of his life and he walked away.

 

[10000yearsold]

Let's not pretend Jones wanted "qualified talent" to compete with. He had a guy right in front of him that's wrecked over half the top 10 inside a round and chose not to fight him. The guy was interim champ and the most qualified opponent any champion has had in maybe forever. And Jones ducked him. However thin the division is behind Aspinall (and it is), that's irrelevant to Jones because he had a mega fight with a killer in front of him and the biggest payday of his life and he walked away.

I honestly don’t think jones saw it that way.

The man came up fighting legendary killers every step of the way, and as soon as they started throwing him less established names he fought sluggishly to the level of his perception of his competition.

He couldn’t get the ol Johnny meat up for Aspinall.

I see the interest in the fight, but I don’t think Jones did. High risk low reward shit. Anyway it’s not my business to make excuses for jones.

I’m gonna take an mma vacation.

 

[Portland8242]

The Stipe that fought Jones is getting KO'd brutally inside a minute vs Tom. That's not even an ethical fight to make, let alone a valid one.

 

[mkess101]

I honestly don’t think jones saw it that way.

The man came up fighting legendary killers every step of the way, and as soon as they started throwing him less established names he fought sluggishly to the level of his perception of his competition.

He couldn’t get the ol Johnny meat up for Aspinall.

I see the interest in the fight, but I don’t think Jones did. High risk low reward shit. Anyway it’s not my business to make excuses for jones.

I’m gonna take an mma vacation.

That's honestly pretty delusional imo. The "killers" he fought coming up (and I put it in quotes but I honestly don't disagree he beat a lot of top-tier guys) didn’t pose a FRACTION of the challenge Aspinall did. Bigger, younger, faster, knocking everyone out.
This wasn't a case of Jones "not being able to get up" for Tom. It was him using his MMA savant brain, assessing his chances, and not liking them at all.

 

[mmacrisis]

Everyone is making Tom out to be this amazing HW. We haven't seen evidence of that yet. Does he have KO power? Definitely. Has been taken past that with someone who has a good ground game? Don't believe so.

I think Stipe could beat Tom if he survives the first 4 minutes.

 

[mkess101]

Everyone is making Tom out to be this amazing HW. We haven't seen evidence of that yet. Does he have KO power? Definitely. Has been taken past that with someone who has a good ground game? Don't believe so.

I think Stipe could beat Tom if he survives the first 4 minutes.

Yes, we've seen plenty of evidence if you know what you're watching. Legit if you think he just has KO power you don't understand what you're seeing. Pavlovich "has KO power". Aspinall has KO power, speed, fluidity, the ability to land power shots incredibly accurately in tight windows, and has shown excellent offensive grappling.

The only potential questions are cardio (nobody lasts long enough to test it) and defensive grappling (outside Almeida, not really anyone to test that either).