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[LostMyBlackBelt]

Slappy punches would get killed by Francis

 

[mkess101]

Slappy punches would get killed by Francis

Francis would stand there petrified like he did vs Black Beast LOL

 

[VAfan]

More accomplished how LMAO? By what metric? More "technical" how exactly. Please do explain this--and be MMA specific since that's what we're discussing.

an entire muay thai career before mma, 13-0. versus aspinall's boxing career of 1-0. hopefully 'specific' enough for you. you condescending twit.

and that's hilarious you're using evidence of a 'betting line' you're completely pulling out of your ass, which doesn't even exist yet. don't think i've ever seen anyone try that before. and even if it WAS real, a -150 would be pretty damn underwhelming, that basically means they don't know shit, it's not all that far from a pickem. what are the odds of him winning by sub or decision? probably a lot higher. because everyone knows that's where he has the big advantage.

the striking will be viewed as competitive, and this has more to do with the threat of TD than any striking skills by themselves, because gane is going to have to fight defensively. in a kickboxing match gane starches him.

and - when the betting lines come up and you feel compelled to share them (as i'm sure you will), make sure to provide the comprehensive set. willing to bet the odds for aspinall winning in other ways will be just as high as with striking alone, if not higher.

 

[mkess101]

an entire muay thai career before mma, 13-0. versus aspinall's boxing career of 1-0. hopefully 'specific' enough for you. you condescending twit.

and that's hilarious you're using evidence of a 'betting line' you're completely pulling out of your ass, which doesn't even exist yet. don't think i've ever seen anyone try that before. and even if it WAS real, a -150 would be pretty damn underwhelming, that basically means they don't know shit, it's not all that far from a pickem. what are the odds of him winning by sub or decision? probably a lot higher. because everyone knows that's where he has the big advantage.

the striking will be viewed as competitive, and this has more to do with the threat of TD than any striking skills by themselves, because gane is going to have to fight defensively. in a kickboxing match gane starches him.

and - when the betting lines come up and you feel compelled to share them (as i'm sure you will), make sure to provide the comprehensive set. willing to bet the odds for aspinall winning in other ways will be just as high as with striking alone, if not higher.

I said SPECIFIC to MMA. His Muy Thai record...why would that matter? Versus who? Can you tell me who he was beating in these Muy Thai fights? Not that it matters, because MMA striking is different and it's undeniable that Aspinall has looked better and more polished and effective as an MMA striker. IDGAF if you call me condescending, sport.

Wanna bet that his KO line doesn't have a - in front of it? Of course you don't because you know it will. And you very clearly don't understand how betting lines work. If his KO line is -150, both his sub and decision lines would have + odds. That I have to explain that...wow. Like...do you think the books would have Aspinall favored to win by KO (let's say -150 just for discussion) and then have decision also with - or sub with one? I'm being serious, is that how you think it works???

If Aspinall moneyline is -350 and his KO line ends around -150 his decision line will be something like +300 and his sub line probably in the +200 to +250 range, ballpark. If a prop is FAVORED by the books to happen, that means all the other outcome possibilities COMBINED (in this case Aspinall sub or decision or ANY win by Gane) aren’t even as likely as the ONE prop that's -150. Is this making sense to you?

 

[VAfan]

I said SPECIFIC to MMA. His Muy Thai record...why would that matter? Versus who? Can you tell me who he was beating in these Muy Thai fights? Not that it matters, because MMA striking is different and it's undeniable that Aspinall has looked better and more polished and effective as an MMA striker. IDGAF if you call me condescending, sport.

Wanna bet that his KO line doesn't have a - in front of it? Of course you don't because you know it will. And you very clearly don't understand how betting lines work. If his KO line is -150, both his sub and decision lines would have + odds. That I have to explain that...wow. Like...do you think the books would have Aspinall favored to win by KO (let's say -150 just for discussion) and then have decision also with - or sub with one? I'm being serious, is that how you think it works???

If Aspinall moneyline is -350 and his KO line ends around -150 his decision line will be something like +300 and his sub line probably in the +200 to +250 range, ballpark. If a prop is FAVORED by the books to happen, that means all the other outcome possibilities COMBINED (in this case Aspinall sub or decision or ANY win by Gane) aren’t even as likely as the ONE prop that's -150. Is this making sense to you?

muay thai because it's striking experience. of course it matters. some experience > none (outside of mma). and gane has a lot of it.

wait and see what the lines are, speculation means nothing. i doubt what you're saying is true, i would be very surprised if the odds of him winning by striking are higher than him winning in other ways. he's going to take this to the ground, and the oddsmakers will know this.

 

[mkess101]

muay thai because it's striking experience. of course it matters. some experience > none (outside of mma). and gane has a lot of it.

wait and see what the lines are, speculation means nothing. i doubt what you're saying is true, i would be very surprised if the odds of him winning by striking are higher than him winning in other ways. he's going to take this to the ground, and the oddsmakers will know this.

Striking experience OUTSIDE of MMA isn't as important as ACTUAL performance in the sport itself. And there's absolutely no question that Aspinall has looked far better as an MMA STRIKER than Gane. It's not close. And that doesn't mean Gane sucks or can't strike. He's a good striker. But he has absolutely not showed he is as accomplished, effective, or good as Aspinall thus far.

I will come back and show you the odds (assuming it's Gane and not Almeida). Aspinall KO will be at - odds and EVERY OTHER scenario will be at + odds.

 

[SuperAlly]

the odds would be very much against him KOing gane in the first round. gane will be the best striker he's faced by far and he won't even have the edge standing, much less be able to blow him out of the water inside of a round.

but, that being said, the threat of the TD and mixing it up could lead to him landing something later in the fight. to assume he's going to just smash a striker as good as gane in the first round is laughable though. if he finishes in the first it will be on the ground, probably similar to what jones did.

"Laughable" is laughable frankly

Top fighters have often banged out other top fighters in the first round

Just because you dont think it's the most likely outcome, it's worlds away from a "laughable" possibility.

Yours and the creepy Jones nuthugger are the only laughable posts in here really

 

[SuperAlly]

gane is the more technical, more accomplished striker. you would assume he'd have the edge until proven otherwise.

and a betting line favoring aspinall does not suggest he will KO him, it suggests he should win the fight. which he should, via something on the ground, in all likelihood. i'd be extremely surprised if tom even chose to strike with him, as would a lot of other people here i'm sure. but i'd be equally surprised if he lost.

"More accomplished" how?

 

[SuperAlly]

ok- should have listened to jon and not dana white. could have fought 2 title fights already. this guy not so bright.

"This guy" being dogsdonuts presumably as he's already been told how this particular argument is 100% false

But keep making a tool of yourself online. It suits you

 

[SuperAlly]

Once again, another thread showing how much Aspinall hurt the jones's because he made their hero retire in sheer terror at the thought of fighting Tom

 

[dogsdonutsdragons]

"This guy" being dogsdonuts presumably as he's already been told how this particular argument is 100% false

But keep making a tool of yourself online. It suits you

imagine being more of a fan of dana white than the fighters.

 

[dogsdonutsdragons]

Actually the one who's not so bright would be the guy thinking Aspinall can just schedule his own fights regardless of what his employer thinks.

tom could have said hes not fighting jones because of what jon said publicly multiple times. he had control he was holding out for a money fight like chandler did and in both cases jon and conor trolled the ufc and the fighter. you have no clue. I'm not so bright but i predicted the entire situation playing out how it did when i noticed the fans siding with danas mindset over the goat of the sport. thats how it goes. You are not a fan of the sport you like dana white someone trying to sell you a product lol.

 

[VAfan]

"Laughable" is laughable frankly

Top fighters have often banged out other top fighters in the first round

Just because you dont think it's the most likely outcome, it's worlds away from a "laughable" possibility.

Yours and the creepy Jones nuthugger are the only laughable posts in here really

didn't say it wasn't possible, said it was stupid to assume it would happen. starting to wonder about the tom nuthuggers, you guys are a bit touchy.

 

[Lord Pyjamas]

The endurance of Arlosvki after that punishment is something to respect.

Easy to shit on Arlovski after he started to fight smart for money at an old age.
(Smart guy! More fighters should go out like that even though it is a bit annoying.)
But he really had the dog in him to stay through that barrage!
Man is a fighter at heart even on his last legs.

 

[mkess101]

tom could have said hes not fighting jones because of what jon said publicly multiple times. he had control he was holding out for a money fight like chandler did and in both cases jon and conor trolled the ufc and the fighter. you have no clue. I'm not so bright but i predicted the entire situation playing out how it did when i noticed the fans siding with danas mindset over the goat of the sport. thats how it goes. You are not a fan of the sport you like dana white someone trying to sell you a product lol.

You're an absolute moron. Aspinall was the interim champ. The UFC foolishly held out hope of having Jones fight him to unify and paid Aspinall to sit. Read this next part slowly: they didn't offer Aspinall an alternate opponent even though he publicly said he'd fight someone else. I'm not sure how much more simply I can explain that so it sinks in. This is nothing like the Chandler situation where one guy desperately held out hope for the fight while everyone else--INCLUDING THE UFC--shrugged and said "dude we don't think Conor is gonna fight". The UFC didn't offer Aspinall other fights and told him "just wait, we'll make it happen with Jones". Aspinall may not have even believed them but he was getting paid and was gonna be undisputed champ one way or the other and knew it. And look...he is! Chandler sat out years and ended up with nothing. Aspinall pushed his next fight back 6 months and ended up as undisputed champ.

Stop trying to engage in discussions that are clearly beyond your grasp. You look stupid and do yourself zero favors.

 

[Lord Pyjamas]

You're an absolute moron. Aspinall was the interim champ. The UFC foolishly held out hope of having Jones fight him to unify and paid Aspinall to sit. Read this next part slowly: they didn't offer Aspinall an alternate opponent even though he publicly said he'd fight someone else. I'm not sure how much more simply I can explain that so it sinks in. This is nothing like the Chandler situation where one guy desperately held out hope for the fight while everyone else--INCLUDING THE UFC--shrugged and said "dude we don't think Conor is gonna fight". The UFC didn't offer Aspinall other fights and told him "just wait, we'll make it happen with Jones". Aspinall may not have even believed them but he was getting paid and was gonna be undisputed champ one way or the other and knew it. And look...he is! Chandler sat out years and ended up with nothing. Aspinall pushed his next fight back 6 months and ended up as undisputed champ.

Stop trying to engage in discussions that are clearly beyond your grasp. You look stupid and do yourself zero favors.

Now that is a well-worded reply!

 

[dogsdonutsdragons]

You're an absolute moron. Aspinall was the interim champ. The UFC foolishly held out hope of having Jones fight him to unify and paid Aspinall to sit. Read this next part slowly: they didn't offer Aspinall an alternate opponent even though he publicly said he'd fight someone else. I'm not sure how much more simply I can explain that so it sinks in. This is nothing like the Chandler situation where one guy desperately held out hope for the fight while everyone else--INCLUDING THE UFC--shrugged and said "dude we don't think Conor is gonna fight". The UFC didn't offer Aspinall other fights and told him "just wait, we'll make it happen with Jones". Aspinall may not have even believed them but he was getting paid and was gonna be undisputed champ one way or the other and knew it. And look...he is! Chandler sat out years and ended up with nothing. Aspinall pushed his next fight back 6 months and ended up as undisputed champ.

Stop trying to engage in discussions that are clearly beyond your grasp. You look stupid and do yourself zero favors.

its okay kid one day you'll grow up a bit and understand

 

[Lord Pyjamas]

This forum has officially started to suck lately with nothing but Jon Jones shit.

Again?
What happened to Connor? Or is it Conor?
Never bothered to find out and probably to late for it now.

 

[mkess101]

its okay kid one day you'll grow up a bit and understand

That's a concession if I've ever seen one. You literally have no reply at all LMFAO.

 

[dogsdonutsdragons]

That's a concession if I've ever seen one. You literally have no reply at all LMFAO.

you aren't trying to discuss anything with me. you are making statements and throwing insults. typical child.