Askren wins 9/10x bs Masvidal

[Sweater of AV]

Seriously, I wish we could all just back to talking about who has more Magomedovs - PFL or Bellator? and who's more GOAT.

Simpler times, Tits. Simpler times...

 

[TITS]

Simpler times, Tits. Simpler times...

I think I've read "Masvidal is a coward/bitch/pussy/scumbag/loser/bum/deadbeat/suckerpuncher" enough times today from enough basement dwellers who've never raised a fist than I can handle. It amazes me that these milksops even follow the sport.

 

[ferrisjso]

Am I the only one that believes that if they fought 10 times, Ben wins 9 times easily by decision?

Yeah masvidal landed that lucky fluke flying knee and made casuals think he was elite but Ben will outwork and use his wrestling easily on Jorge, especially with Jorge with no gas tank now.

Like Colby said, Masvidal was the hype machine who hit lightning in a bottle for a couple of fights.

No you're not. Masvidal got lucky. And Aksren would have earned a title shot so I guess it would have changed his legacy a little. But it is clear now he had a 0.00% of beating Marty so really we're just flipping his UFC record from 1-2 to 2-1.

Askren likely retires after losing to Marty because he made it clear after the Maia fight he was retiring once he didn't think he could get to the belt and after getting dominated by Marty he probably comes to the same conclusion.

Masvidal is kind of an imposter among the elite WW's so Askren beating him doesn't really change much in an MMA sense. Askren wasn't hanging around as an elite WW in this era as the Maia fight clearly showed.

 

[TeenageMutantLesnarTurtle]

I dunno honestly. Askren is nowhere near the athlete Colby and Usman are, has no fucking striking ability whatsoever in comparison (well...in comparison to anything really) and by the time he got to the UFC I dont think he even had better wrestling than those two anymore either. I think over the course of a 5 rounder Jorge would have had plenty of opportunities to hurt him.

 

[TITS]

No you're not. Masvidal got lucky. And Aksren would have earned a title shot so I guess it would have changed his legacy a little. But it is clear now he had a 0.00% of beating Marty so really we're just flipping his UFC record from 1-2 to 2-1.

Askren likely retires after losing to Marty because he made it clear after the Maia fight he was retiring once he didn't think he could get to the belt and after getting dominated by Marty he probably comes to the same conclusion.

Masvidal is kind of an imposter among the elite WW's so Askren beating him doesn't really change much in an MMA sense. Askren wasn't hanging around as an elite WW in this era as the Maia fight clearly showed.

If the results of his potential match-ups were different, he would have gotten starched by Till and beaten blind if the UFC insisted on running it back with Lawler like they wanted to. He would have gotten his ass turned inside-out by Usman if he even managed to make it that far, which he wouldn't have anyway. They could have fed him to Colby, but that would've been a snoozefest and they knew it.

 

[13Seconds]

Askren defeated himself in that fight, masvidal just fights like he has nothing to lose (even though he has kids, rofl)

Deadbeat dad is probably a gross understatement of what masvidal is actually. It’s not even about the comment about his fathering, that’s just his excuse.

What a piece of shit comment lol

 

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Damn it's I hate Jorge masvidal day
But yeah you're right lol that was as flukey as flukey gets

Been watching since atleast 2011 and you still don't know what fluke means.

Also, that knee was rehearsed

 

[SamuraiBro]

Lol. You've all gone completely retarded over this sucker punch shit.



Ben and Jorge have somehow become two of the most underrated fighters in recent history.

Ben was a world champion in two organisations, something Masvidal will never come close to doing. Ah well at least he’s got his bmf belt :^)

 

[Sweater of AV]

Ben was a world champion in two organisations, something Masvidal will never come close to doing. Ah well at least he’s got his bmf belt :^)

I'm not dumping on Ben, dumbass.

You're definitely one of the people I mentioned though.

 

[SamuraiBro]

I'm not dumping on Ben, dumbass.

You're definitely one of the people I mentioned though.

I know you weren’t dumping on Ben, dickhead.

Oh wait you’re the guy who got super upset because I was no longer a fan of Jorge Masvidal THE heckin BMF! Carry on sir. I’ll let you defend your boy

 

[Grandwizard666]

Been watching since atleast 2011 and you still don't know what fluke means.

Also, that knee was rehearsed

The definition of fluke:
"an unlikely chance occurrence, especially a surprising piece of luck."
So you're saying if that fight went

Been watching since atleast 2011 and you still don't know what fluke means.

Also, that knee was rehearsed

The definition of fluke :
"an unlikely chance occurrence, especially a surprising piece of luck."
So you're telling me that if they fought again, it'd be likely for that to happen again?
If it wasn't a fluke, why isn't masvidal landing flying knees and crazy kos on anyone else? Why isn't askren getting flying knee koed or even koed by anyone else?
If that fight happened 20 more times, the chances of that happening again are almost zero.
Yeah, I've probably been watching longer than you, and it shows.

 

[Sweater of AV]

I know you weren’t dumping on Ben, dickhead.

Oh wait you’re the guy who got super upset because I was no longer a fan of Jorge Masvidal THE heckin BMF! Carry on sir. I’ll let you defend your boy

No, you clearly didn't numbnuts. Your post was stupid, and your opinion is useless. I couldn't care any less about you or who you're a fan of. You're here responding to me

"Jorge sucker punched my favorite fighter. Well, Ben Askren had better accolades. That'll show everyone!"

You fucking dork.

 

[DoNoootin]

No way.

First of all it wasn't a fluke, I hate when people keep saying that. He tried to fluke repeat it against Colby when Colby wasn't even going for a takedown but against Ben it was planned, he saw him going for it and went for it. That's not a fluke. That's precision.

Aside from that - let's say he didn't land it - Ben has ZERO striking and isn't very hard to hit. Yeah Ben would probably get Masvidal down multiple times and kill some time, but he ain't gonna submit him and Masvidal would then eventually piece him up with 0 resistance. Colby actually has some striking, plus Masvidal knew very well from a decade of training what Colby would/could do to him, so I think it made him very hesitant, you could see it, like muscle memory, wheras with Ben... yeah he'd fear the takedown but he wouldn't be as timid or scared as with Colby.

 

[scoobster]

it wasn't a fluke knee cos Jorge meant it to happen but yeah Ben wins more times than he loses against him

 

[TITS]

The definition of fluke:
"an unlikely chance occurrence, especially a surprising piece of luck."
So you're saying if that fight went

The definition of fluke :
"an unlikely chance occurrence, especially a surprising piece of luck."
So you're telling me that if they fought again, it'd be likely for that to happen again?
If it wasn't a fluke, why isn't masvidal landing flying knees and crazy kos on anyone else? Why isn't askren getting flying knee koed or even koed by anyone else?
If that fight happened 20 more times, the chances of that happening again are almost zero.
Yeah, I've probably been watching longer than you, and it shows.

Let me explain it so a retard like you can understand. When Fighter A practices a specific technique in training camp to counter a specific technique by Fighter B, and when Fighter B clumsily dives in for a telegraphed takedown that Fighter A had been drilling for 8 weeks, that is not a fluke.

You know what was more of a "fluke"? When one fighter beats the living bejezus out of his opponent but the ref doesn't stop it like he should have, and then waves off the fight when this particular fighter gets headlocked by the human punching bag, then while he's raising his arm to give a thumbs up the notoriously incompetent ref thinks his arm went limp.

 

[Grandwizard666]

Let me explain it so a retard like you can understand. When Fighter A practices a specific technique in training camp to counter a specific technique by Fighter B, and when Fighter B clumsily dives in for a telegraphed takedown that Fighter A had been drilling for 8 weeks, that is not a fluke.

You know what was more of a "fluke"? When one fighter beats the living bejezus out of his opponent but the ref doesn't stop it like he should have, and then waves off the fight when this particular fighter gets headlocked by the human punching bag while he's raising his arm to give a thumbs up but the incompetent ref thinks his arm went limp.

Because he practiced a flying knee in practice, it's not a fluke??
So was the showtime kick not flukey either?
You can practice this shit all day, but actually landing it in a fight is another story.
That is why these things become huge highlights. Because the chances of them landing ARE FUCKING RARE HENCE "FLUKE" IDIOT
if everybody landed that same record breaking flying knee every fight, it wouldn't be special would it? You retards take the word fluke as some huge ass diss. Most pro fighters with a brain would say the same thing.


Also why are you using that as a counter example, like I have some sort of connection to Ben askren? Lol like I care. I think askren got annihilated by Lawler and shouldn't have won. But you're a dumbass who is triggered because I insulted your butt buddy.

 

[burningspear]

But when it counted, he lost.

 

[cmw43]

Nah Ben has no legit wins over anyone worth mentioning, it’s not obvious at all that was some sort of fluke. I doubt Masvidal wins again in four seconds, but I could see him winning by later knockouts and even decisions. Masvidal has gone the distance with several champions, who has Ben ever been tested against?

Lima and Koreshkov were both Bellator Champs.

 

[TITS]

Because he practiced a flying knee in practice, it's not a fluke??
So was the showtime kick not flukey either?
You can practice this shit all day, but actually landing it in a fight is another story.
That is why these things become huge highlights. Because the chances of them landing ARE FUCKING RARE HENCE "FLUKE" IDIOT
if everybody landed that same record breaking flying knee every fight, it wouldn't be special would it? You retards take the word fluke as some huge ass diss. Most pro fighters with a brain would say the same thing.


Also why are you using that as a counter example, like I have some sort of connection to Ben askren? Lol like I care. I think askren got annihilated by Lawler and shouldn't have won. But you're a dumbass who is triggered because I insulted your butt buddy.

Okay shit for brains, I'll give you what you asked for.

That flying knee would have landed at some point in the fight, whether you believe it or not. Maybe it seemed "flukey" that Askren turned into a mannequin before the Modelo Fight Clock got finished loading onto the screen, but the move itself was no fluke. Was it a fluke when MVP knocked Cyborg Santos out with a flying knee? No, but maybe Santos getting his head caved in was. The point is it only looked like a fluke to some people because it was over before it even started. It's possible Masvidal would have gotten grapplefucked for an entire round like MVP did, but Askren would've gotten knocked dead in round 2 if it went that far.

The "counter example" as you put it, is just an example of what a real fluke is, and since this thread is about Askren, I though it was relevant.

You wouldn't need to have any of this stuff explained to you if you had any idea what you were looking at, but here I am trying to teach a special ed student basic MMA concepts. Maybe you should go back to collecting Barbie dolls or something, combat sports seems a little to complicated for your slow brain.

 

[Grandwizard666]

Okay shit for brains, I'll give you what you asked for.

That flying knee would have landed at some point in the fight, whether you believe it or not. Maybe it seemed "flukey" that Askren turned into a mannequin before the Modelo Fight Clock got finished loading onto the screen, but the move itself was no fluke. Was it a fluke when MVP knocked Cyborg Santos with a flying knee? No, but maybe Santos getting his caved in was. The point is it only looked like a fluke to some people because it was over before it even started. It's possible Masvidal would have gotten grapplefucked for an entire round like MVP did, but Askren would've gotten knocked dead in round 2 if it went that far.

The "counter example" as you put it, is just an example of what a real fluke is, and since this thread is about Askren, I though it was relevant.

You wouldn't need to have any of this stuff explained to you if you had any idea what you were looking at, but here I am trying to teach a special ed student basic MMA concepts. Maybe you should go back to collecting Barbie dolls or something, combat sports seems a little to complicated for your slow brain.

Herb Dean shitting the bed is far from a fluke, he does it constantly. So your counter example is trash
"He would have landed it eventually" you say that with such certainty, further proving how absolutely retarded your take is.
Saying masvidal would have certainly done anything, considering his sporty record and Ben's good record against tougher competition historically than masvidal, it would be safer to say Ben would most likely wrestle fuck him to decision, but somehow you come up with the conclusion Ben loses everytime. Ok. Lol.
In a sport as inconsistent and random as MMA, flukes are a consistent occurrence. But little pea brain over here thinks bad man on the internet is insulting the big tough gangster MMA fighter so he has to throw completely dumb insults out and say autistic things.
You're an idiot. Go gurgle jorges nuts more.