Arguing for the Confederates...

[Limbo Pete]

I'll say it again, without slavery, there would have been no war, but not one soldier picked up a rifle in 1861 to free any slave.

Thats one.

 

[cincymma79]

The Confederates were a bunch of Bowe Bergdahls.

No because if they were there’s have been no war at all

 

[Captain Davis]

Also, there's this in the Confederate Constitution:

Article I Section 9(1)
The importation of negroes of the African race from any foreign country, other than the slaveholding States or Territories of the United States of America, is hereby forbidden; and Congress is required to pass such laws as shall effectually prevent the same.

So, who was responsible for the importation?

 

[Captain Davis]

Lol

I'll change my mantra to "very few"

 

[Limbo Pete]

Lol

I'll change my mantra to "very few"

Good man

 

[Roaming East]

Also, there's this in the Confederate Constitution:

Article I Section 9(1)
The importation of negroes of the African race from any foreign country, other than the slaveholding States or Territories of the United States of America, is hereby forbidden; and Congress is required to pass such laws as shall effectually prevent the same.

So, who was responsible for the importation?

It was a protectionist clause. The Confederacy didnt want foreign slaves being bought when confederate slaves could be bought and traded.

 

[Falsedawn]

I won't have many comments from Confederate soldiers on slavery during the conflict, because it just wasn't mentioned.

https://cdnc.ucr.edu/cgi-bin/cdnc?a=d&d=SDU18681204.2.3

"The greatest efforts made by the defeated insurgents since the close of the war have been to promulgate the idea that the cause of liberty, justice, humanity, equality, and all the calendar of the virtues of freedom, suffered violence and wrong when the effort for southern independence failed. This is, of course, intended as a species of political cant, whereby the crime of treason might be covered with a counterfeit varnish of patriotism, so that the precipitators of the rebellion might go down in history hand in hand with the defenders of the government, thus wiping out with their own hands their own stains; a species of self-forgiveness amazing in its effrontery, when it is considered that life and property—justly forfeited by the laws of the country, of war, and of nations, through the magnanimity of the government and people—was not exacted from them."

GEO. H. THOMAS, Major General U. S. A., Commanding

https://www.encyclopediavirginia.org/mosby_john_singleton_1833-1916

In a letter of 1894 he insisted, "I always understood that we went to War on account of the thing we quarreled with the North about. I never heard of any other cause of quarrel than slavery." As late as 1902 he mused, "in retrospect slavery seems such a monstrous thing that some are now trying to prove that slavery was not the cause of the war."

John Singleton Mosby, Lieutenant Colonel, 43rd Virginia Partisan Rangers

 

[lfd0311]

Also, there's this in the Confederate Constitution:

Article I Section 9(1)
The importation of negroes of the African race from any foreign country, other than the slaveholding States or Territories of the United States of America, is hereby forbidden; and Congress is required to pass such laws as shall effectually prevent the same.

So, who was responsible for the importation?

That measure was designed specifically to control inflation, you understand that, right?

 

[lfd0311]

I'll say it again, without slavery, there would have been no war, but not one soldier picked up a rifle in 1861 to free any slave.

Tons of them did. Not a single politician did.

 

[Captain Davis]

https://cdnc.ucr.edu/cgi-bin/cdnc?a=d&d=SDU18681204.2.3

"The greatest efforts made by the defeated insurgents since the close of the war have been to promulgate the idea that the cause of liberty, justice, humanity, equality, and all the calendar of the virtues of freedom, suffered violence and wrong when the effort for southern independence failed. This is, of course, intended as a species of political cant, whereby the crime of treason might be covered with a counterfeit varnish of patriotism, so that the precipitators of the rebellion might go down in history hand in hand with the defenders of the government, thus wiping out with their own hands their own stains; a species of self-forgiveness amazing in its effrontery, when it is considered that life and property—justly forfeited by the laws of the country, of war, and of nations, through the magnanimity of the government and people—was not exacted from them."

GEO. H. THOMAS, Major General U. S. A., Commanding

https://www.encyclopediavirginia.org/mosby_john_singleton_1833-1916

In a letter of 1894 he insisted, "I always understood that we went to War on account of the thing we quarreled with the North about. I never heard of any other cause of quarrel than slavery." As late as 1902 he mused, "in retrospect slavery seems such a monstrous thing that some are now trying to prove that slavery was not the cause of the war."

John Singleton Mosby, Lieutenant Colonel, 43rd Virginia Partisan Rangers

Mosby was one who was totally opposed to slavery. He became a Republican after the war. He only fought for the Confederacy because he refused to fight against his own people.

Of course, Thomas was a Union general. He is going to say that.

BTW, Thomas was one of the finest generals that the war produced. He was certainly one of the greatest Union generals. If I'm not mistaken, he never lost a battle. You could argue that he did at Chickamauga, but that wasn't one he was in charge of and he is the only Union general who didn't tuck tail and run. He held his position, which was impressive considering the outcome.

 

[Captain Davis]

Tons of them did. Not a single politician did.

Tons is stretching it. Very few soldiers fought to liberate slaves in the beginning. After the EP, many Northern soldiers found that it was a positive war tactic though.

 

[Sir Galahad]

Why celebrate being an anti american loser who fought for the right to own human beings?

This flag is 10x more dope.

Love that design. Here's ours. @hillelslovak87

 

[lfd0311]

Tons is stretching it. Very few soldiers fought to liberate slaves in the beginning. After the EP, many Northern soldiers found that it was a positive war tactic though.

I'd say a large number of Northern Troops did, it was the popular propaganda of the time.

 

[Roaming East]

I'd say a large number of Northern Troops did, it was the popular propaganda of the time.

at the very least, the various coloured units can be assumed to have joined for some OTHER reason than a chance of shit pay, dysentery, and getting blown apart...

 

[AgonyandIrony]

they lost the war.....


200 years ago...jesus how many of these idiots in the south will keep crying about it

Maybe most of the southern states being leaches on the federal government is their form of revenge lol.

I like the south a lot, I find the people to be pleasant, the food to be great, and I love me some hot black girls but Jesus I heard some incredibly open racism down there. Hell at least in Oklahoma they whisper about it.