International Argentine submarine missing with 44 aboard: ARA San Juan's imploded wreckage has been found.

Sad news. I've read the Argentinian navy isn't in the best state of maintenance.
A poorly maintained sub is not where I'd want to be.
 
I dont understand how these things dont have redundant system after redundant system to locate them in an event like this
 
I dont understand how these things dont have redundant system after redundant system to locate them in an event like this

Pry because the point of subs is to be inconspicuous. I’ve read that during the Cold War Russian and US subs would go completely silent for periods of a week or two. Only the commander and perhaps an Admiral would know where they were.
 
Are all submariners trained in scuba? Cant they just put on the mask, and swim out with the tanks?

...and instantly be crushed like a beer can.

Their best chance is to be found by the U.S Navy's rescue submersible that could latch on, form an airtight seal with the sub's hatch, and transfer the crew over.

Kinda like what they used to board the Red October.
 
Do the subs have escape pods? Or what is their escape procedure if anything? Are all submariners trained in scuba? Cant they just put on the mask, and swim out with the tanks?

No escape pods but do have communication pods that they can release. None have been heard or licated.

They would have drilled for transfer to a rescue sub. Very possible but not if they can't find the sub.

No swimming. The continental shelf in the area is 200m deep. Requires a hard suit. Throretically possible but decompression is a killer.
 
I don't know what to believe atm. Reports saying that it's been located by the US Navy but lots of confusion. Hope everybody is safe and well, despite that looking unlikely...
 
I don't know what to believe atm. Reports saying that it's been located by the US Navy but lots of confusion. Hope everybody is safe and well, despite that looking unlikely...

sounds like another false alarm, unfortunately
 
Holy shit, this is a story of nightmares. Death via a potential combination of any of the following: drowning, burning alive, slowly suffocating, dying of no food/water.

At least they still have a slight chance to be found and rescued by this international joint effort.

Back when other countries called Moscow and offered their assistance to find what's left of the Kursk, the innept Russian navy was still trying to convince the Russian public that the crew of the (blown-up) sub were being safely evacuated, and no extra help was needed.
 
At least they still have a slight chance to be found and rescued by this international joint effort.

Back when other countries called Moscow and offered their assistance to find what's left of the Kursk, the innept Russian navy was still trying to convince the Russian public that the crew of the (blown-up) sub were being safely evacuated, and no extra help was needed.

Today is day 7 i believe.

If they enacted oxygen saving protocols they can last longer than the technical limit of 7 days.

These involve not doing much, sleeping as much as possible, don't eat to much. How much longer they can last depends on them realising they were in trouble early in the piece.
 
Sad situation , I'm glad that despite the histrionics outbursts from a couple of Argentine politicians we're still trying to help .
 
Argentina reports new clue in search for missing submarine
By Almudena Calatrava and Luis Andres Henao | AP November 23

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Ships and planes hunting for a missing Argentine submarine with 44 crew members will return to a previously search area after officials said Wednesday that a noise made a week ago in the South Atlantic could provide a clue to the vessel’s location.

The Argentina navy spokesman, Capt. Enrique Balbi, said the “hydro-acoustic anomaly” was determined by the United States and specialist agencies to have been produced Nov. 15, just hours after the final contact with the ARA San Juan and could have come from the sub.

The sound originated about 30 miles north of the submarine’s last registered position, he said.

“It’s a noise. We don’t want to speculate” about what caused it, Balbi said.

He said Argentine navy ships as well as a U.S. P-8 Poseidon aircraft and a Brazilian air force plane would return to the area to check out the clue, even though the area already was searched.

U.S. Navy Lt. Lily Hinz later said the unusual sound detected underwater could not be attributed to marine life or naturally occurring noise in the ocean. She declined to speculate whether it might have been an explosion, saying experts did not know what it was.

“It was not a whale, and it is not a regularly occurring sound,” Hinz said.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...e7a7b8-cfe8-11e7-a87b-47f14b73162a_story.html
 
Yet another country I am shocked to hear has a navy.
 
Argentina missing submarine: Russia joins search operation

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Argentina has accepted help from Russia in the search for a military submarine that went missing with 44 crew in the southern Atlantic a week ago.

President Mauricio Macri said the Russian leader, Vladimir Putin, had phoned him to offer to deploy a survey vessel and crew with experience of similar operations.

More than a dozen countries, including the US, are taking part in the search.

The ARA San Juan vanished after it reported an electric breakdown.

It last made contact with naval officers on land last Wednesday.

A navy spokesman, Captain Enrique Balbi, said the search had now entered "a critical phase," amid fears that oxygen supplies may be running low.

He later told Argentine journalists that the Navy was investigating reports of a loud noise detected in the area a few hours after the ARA San Juan went missing.

He described it as a "hydro-acoustic anomaly" and refused to confirm whether there had been an explosion.

The whole country has been following the news closely, hoping that the sub is located before it runs out of oxygen.

Brazil, Chile, Colombia, France, Germany, Peru, South Africa, Uruguay and the UK are among the countries that have sent either ships or planes to help with the search.

The US Navy has deployed two underwater vehicles which use sonar to create images of the sea floor.

What happened to the sub?

The ARA San Juan was returning from a routine mission to Ushuaia, near the southern-most tip of South America, when it reported an "electrical breakdown".

According to naval commander Gabriel Galeazzi, the submarine surfaced and reported the breakdown, which Capt Galeazzi described as a "short circuit" in the sub's batteries.

The sub was ordered to cut its mission short and return to the naval base in Mar del Plata immediately.

According to navy spokesman Enrique Balbi, the captain of the ARA San Juan contacted the naval base once more after reporting the problem.

In the message, he reportedly said that the problem had been adequately fixed and that the sub would submerge and proceed towards Mar del Plata naval base.

The last contact was made at 07:30 local time (10:30 GMT) on Wednesday 15 November. It is not known what happened to the sub after that contact.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-42090497
 
Would you believe....yes?
Well the Argentinian economy has crashed numerous times.

So you are not far off hahaha I would say " yet another country I am shock to hear still has a Navy that operate subs".
 
Well the Argentinian economy has crashed numerous times.

So you are not far off hahaha I would say " yet another country I am shock to hear still has a Navy that operate subs".
Essentially what I meant. I was meaning a county who is in such dire straights has for better things to spend money on than operating submarines. The only subs they should be concerned with are the type that jarred used to peddle.
 
 
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