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Lockheed Martin Unveils Plans for Huge Reusable Moon Lander for Astronauts

Story: https://www.space.com/42011-lockheed-martin-unveils-huge-moon-lander.html

"Lockheed Martin revealed its concept for a reusable, single-stage spaceship capable of ferrying four astronauts between lunar orbit and the surface of the moon."

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Artist's illustration of Lockheed Martin's proposed lunar lander on the surface of the moon. The lander could carry four people and up to 1 ton of cargo to the surface from lunar orbit.



The moon should now become the new Australia where we drop off criminals and murderers.
 
Biggest waste of taxpayer money in US history.
 
a guy in a christmas movie said that he could throw a lasso over the moon and pull it down... im not sure if he could or not but its an interesting thought. If we could pull the moon down here we can build stuff on it then put it back in space.
 
Nearly 50 years later and I really don’t understand why we haven’t been back. Technology has made leaps and bounds since 1969.
 
probably, but if not for the private sector we would not have space travel ideas, China, India and europe with the ESA have plans and solid programs, NASA also but always low on budget, but in my opinion the private sector is the one who is gonna be the new pioneer and get our stank ass one planet species into the stars, imo we need a moon base and then later a moon city because its extremly important in order to slingshot into mars, and mars needs to be an all out effort, hundreds of thousands of the smartest and best people we have need to go there

Going to the moon to go to Mars is like going from New York to LA via London. Living on the moon or Mars isn't an intelligent move. To be able to survive on either would require hundreds, if not thousands of tons of equipment sent from Earth. We haven't been able to create a closed system on Earth or in space. Until we do, the money would be wasted sending humans to the moon or Mars.
 
The advancement of science. This is a broad generalization but it would encompass interstellar travel, acquisition of resources, space colonies, and who knows what else.
it's a lot more pragmatic than that. Bezos planned this decades ago and it's where he plans to pour his resources to. He understands that manufacturing and mining (on earth) will be severely effected by environmental policies in the near future and wants to be the first one to set up shop on the moon and beyond. The potential wealth will dwarf anything from the East India spice trade or the rail barons of the 19th century.
 
Nearly 50 years later and I really don’t understand why we haven’t been back. Technology has made leaps and bounds since 1969.

The US only went to the moon as part of a dick measuring contest with the Soviet Union. They learned a lot going there. Things like cosmic rays and that the moon is made of the same things that Earth is but much more difficult to live because there is no air or readily available water.

The reason we never went back because there was no reason to!
 
The US only went to the moon as part of a dick measuring contest with the Soviet Union. They learned a lot going there. Things like cosmic rays and that the moon is made of the same things that Earth is but much more difficult to live because there is no air or readily available water.

The reason we never went back because there was no reason to!

Nah it’s a good point. Would’ve been cool to see more of it though and in a clearer picture.
 
it's a lot more pragmatic than that. Bezos planned this decades ago and it's where he plans to pour his resources to. He understands that manufacturing and mining (on earth) will be severely effected by environmental policies in the near future and wants to be the first one to set up shop on the moon and beyond. The potential wealth will dwarf anything from the East India spice trade or the rail barons of the 19th century.

The cost to bring anything back will be thousands, if not millions of times more than the value of anything brought back. It isn't like traveling to another continent on Earth. It requires a huge amount of energy to escape the earth's gravity, go to the moon and return with a few pounds of material.

Space is much more dangerous than we thought. The trips to the moon were of very short duration and were lucky to have been between periods of sun spots. Staying on the moon means that humans would certainly be exposed to much greater levels of cosmic radiation.
 
The cost to bring anything back will be thousands, if not millions of times more than the value of anything brought back. It isn't like traveling to another continent on Earth. It requires a huge amount of energy to escape the earth's gravity, go to the moon and return with a few pounds of material.

Space is much more dangerous than we thought. The trips to the moon were of very short duration and were lucky to have been between periods of sun spots. Staying on the moon means that humans would certainly be exposed to much greater levels of cosmic radiation.
the potential profits will be exponentially more than the costs.
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/05/15/mining-asteroids-could-be-worth-trillions-of-dollars.html

The talk of space tourism and human settlements are silly diversions. It should all be operated by robots- both AI and remotely controlled by humans.
 
it's a lot more pragmatic than that. Bezos planned this decades ago and it's where he plans to pour his resources to. He understands that manufacturing and mining (on earth) will be severely effected by environmental policies in the near future and wants to be the first one to set up shop on the moon and beyond. The potential wealth will dwarf anything from the East India spice trade or the rail barons of the 19th century.
True. I read somewhere that it would crash the current economy.
 
Can't go again if we never went the first time.

**GASP**
 
I think we should stop with all the rovers and extra solar probes and satellites and shit. We have learned enough. Now it's time to start dropping supplies on the moon and Mars for future development. Work on the deep space network hub etc. For future exploration.
 
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