Are UFC heavyweights just obese?

[MT5]

As others have said, BMI is kinda 'eh'. Not useless as a broad medical indicator. But not a great data point on its own.
I lost a lot of weight training for my first boxing match at 165 recently (I was legitimately fat prior). I went to my jogging club a few days before fight day. They saw me with my shirt off and said I looked like a heroin addict. 165 at 5' 11' is just barely in the "normal" range according to BMI. But to our modern eyes (that are used to seeing fatter and generally bigger people!) a "normal" BMI looks tiny. Combine that fact with BMI's lack of including muscle vs fat, etc. in its calculation, and its basically not useful for discussions like this.

 

[Bearknuckle]

Does this look obese to you?

6'1 280

Yes obese

 

[dog y]

You made a point to not be a liar ?

You know 178 cm is not 5 '11 ?

5'11 is 1.8m. I can convert. Also lived in Seattle for a bit. Might still have my old ID.

 

[ejazahmednit]

Ngannou is the most obese man I ve seen
Jones is just big boned, dont you dare call him fat

 

[dog y]

Ok cool. You do bodybuilding or ?

You drink a lot of alcohol ?

I love sports. Single sports. Always disliked team/ball sports. Lifelong martial artist, runner, for some years hit the gym 6 days a week for up to 3h/day. After full arthroplasty and divorce i'm kinda boondoggling for too long. Kinda lost it. Still very active, can't help it.
Yes, I drink a lot of alcohol. Have for decades, but I take full breaks when I please. Had a full scan and blood tests recently and somehow my liver, kidneys, heart, lungs, pancreas are all fine. Baffling, really. Lucky in a way.

Edit: oh, to satisfy your curiosity and maybe make some sense of it, I don't process excess fat. Never have. It's a lucky characteristic to have as long as your liver and pancreas are well.

 

[AdamWarlock]

how are you gonna be 300 pounds and jacked without steroids?

it's usada's fault

 

[mudrubble]

I’m obese regardless of the metric. You can tell by looking with your own two eyes. Not bisping. He can see with his one eye. Not sure if he could see my obesity better with one or two eyes tho.

Depends on how wide I think. I used to know the formula but my brain lost most of its math in the accident. *shudders*

Anyway, we know you're joking. You post on SD. Surely your skin can scarcely contain your muscle. Stretchmark city here at SD. All we have is muscle....

 

[Aluminati]

They are not just obese. They're much more than that.

 

[Why did you]

 

[GOATtalks]

Most of them are. HW is the weakest division and always has been. Well if you don't count womens divisions that is.

They aren’t. Would you call Ngannou, Jones, Gane, Blaydes, Aspinall, Pavlovich, Volkov, Almeida obese?

 

[daniel san]

Yes but not because of BMI. Not only fat, but also terrible fighters. Our lard and saviour Big Country would eat them for breakfast. Joking aside, he would in his prime beat up most HWs in the UFC.

 

[BigDeadFreak]

According to my Mi I'm obese but that's just because I have the muscle mass of prime Arnie.

 

[Ladder Master]

We just need to get used to chubby looking HWs. We aren't going to get many Overeem looking fellows nowadays with USADA.

It is a great time to take a break, and go do some chores, when the unranked fat guys are on.

 

[Quietus]

This thread gets made once a week so let me explain it again: the chubby UFC HWs look how most 5’10-6’2 people look if they bulk up to 265lbs+. You biologically can’t be shredded at 265lbs without significant steroid use, unless you’re freakishly tall to where that’s a lean weight for you (NBA players), and even then those athletes also use steroids.

People who are tall and ripped at that size with athleticism go into real, high paying sports like NFL, NBA, etc and make millions, not Dana’s circus sideshow for 12k/12k. That’s why there’s a perception of HWs being fat, lazy and not training. That’s not the case, they simply look the same way anyone would at that weight without either being 6’6+ or on an Ubereem-level PED cycle.

 

[Yep]

Depends on how wide I think. I used to know the formula but my brain lost most of its math in the accident. *shudders*

Anyway, we know you're joking. You post on SD. Surely your skin can scarcely contain your muscle. Stretchmark city here at SD. All we have is muscle....

I’m the exception lmao

 

[mister piscadinha]

HW div BMI went way down after Nelson, Hunt, Fatso retired.
And up after Struve retired.

I always said LHW shouldn't exist. 99% are HWs cutting down. We seldom see any LHWs weighing in at 202 or 199. I can only remember Machida in the last 10 years or so.
Many if not most MWs are above 205 year round. That makes em heavyweights.
Have the little guys up to WW, then HW. Go really big or go home.
Would be a deep, great division.

i spoke some weeks ago how the LHW division kills the HW division and people acted like i was nuts.
theres not a single LHW that is less than 220lbs in fight night, this is ridiculous.

there should be a cruiserweight division where guys weigh-in up to 200lbs and anyone over that should fight at HW

 

[JoeRowe]

I can't say they're obese, but I guarantee Scott Steiner isn't pleased by their physiques

 

[MDoza]

DC wrestled at 185lbs in college and looked healthy.

Most heavyweights just have bad eating habits.

 

[ferrisjso]

DC wrestled at 185lbs in college and looked healthy.

Most heavyweights just have bad eating habits.

I remember back in 2013/2014 when DC made the move to LHW there were people on here who swore up and down that him cutting down to 205 would kill him and that DC couldn't lose that weight it was his natural body.

 

[Bearknuckle]

BMI is usually a good indicator whether you're a healthy weight or not however, It isn't always something that's always accurate. If it was, 250 LB Bodybuilders are considered Obese. they're technically Overweight yes but it isn't bad weight. BMI is more accurate for people who don't lift and are out of shape (Fat) but it's less accurate for people who are jacked and in good shape but are overweight. I hope I make sense.

Bodybuilders are extremely unhealthy!