Are school shootings simply the result of capitalism?

[hiphopnazi]

I advocate guns for everyone who loves their freedom, loves their family, and likes to have fun on the weekends.

Would you restrict violent criminals, people suffering from mental health, illegals?

 

[luckyshot]

And to your point TS, yes.

We live in a winner take all culture.

That will necessarily make the losers more desperate.

 

[oldshadow]

The battle of Athens argument sort of breaks down when you look at the capability of our modern military. ICBM, attack subs, MRAPS, Bradley Fighting Vehicles, Abrams Tanks, crowd dispersion technology vehicles, drones, attack helicopters, fighter jets, aircraft carriers, and an elite fighting force kind of make an armed uprising a fantasy on the level of red dawn. And if you think our military men and women would en masse, refuse to undertake tyranny, then the argument breaks down as well.

And you think the only government is the federal government .

 

[PEDS Help me Post]

I hope it doesn't happen but as Paris proved it's a hell of a thing with 86 dead and 434 injured .

Or do only schools count.

Do you know what happened after these trucks started hitting people?

Truck control.

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[Gandhi]

Absolutely, yes. You'll take heat for the suggestion by people who can only make direct causal analyses, but tangentially it absolutely is related to capitalism: the capitalist forces that lobby the government against the interests of its people and prevents more fluid attempts at policy making re gun violence prevention, the capitalist forces that pursue and accomplish the state-sanctioned sale of millions of firearms to known terrorist states, the capitalist forces that fetishize weapons to sell movies, toys, and video games, the capitalist voices that insulate the spread of death from ethical concerns of those wielding the machinery, etc., etc.

Simply the result, perhaps not. But partially the result, undoubtedly.

I was actually making the case today with someone that in the instance of the gun lobby, it’s actually democracy at work. Is there another lobby that truly represents grassroots politcal desires more than the NRA? I mean I am no fan at all, but in this case supply is following demand rather than the other way around. Plenty of market economies exist without a gun culture.

 

[oldshadow]

No, I’m indicating the stupidity of trying to build an argument based on isolated incidents instead of overwhelming statistical trends.

Sure, trucks have been used as murder weapons.

Doesn’t change the fact that guns ARE used a zillion times more often.

So you are the one dodging and deflecting. I just pointed it out.

We were talking mass killings.

If you want to talk about other things then fine but that's not what we were talking about. You drifted off.

 

[Byron Carter]

Would you restrict violent criminals, people suffering from mental health, illegals?

Violent criminals should be in prison/jail - where their rights are restricted. If they're out of prison/jail - their rights shouldn't be restricted any more. If they can't be trusted with their rights... keep them in jail.

Kick the illegals out. No amnesty. Build the wall.

Your definition of mental illness is different from mine. Who's to say "Conservatism" or "Christianity" won't be labeled a mental illness? No. I'm sorry. Also - it's going to result in legitimately sick people not wanting to go to the doctor out of fear of losing their weapons, justified or not.

 

[oldshadow]

Do you know what happened after these trucks started hitting people?

Truck control.

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We have gun control also.

And have a truck is not a right anywhere last I checked.

 

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We have gun control also.

And have a truck is not a right anywhere last I checked.

Of course you do.

The Vegas killer only had over 40+ weapons.

Clearly your gun control is excellent.

 

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Yes, very good.

At least you learned something.

 

[hiphopnazi]

Violent criminals should be in prison/jail - where their rights are restricted. If they're out of prison/jail - their rights shouldn't be restricted any more. If they can't be trusted with their rights... keep them in jail.

Kick the illegals out. No amnesty. Build the wall.

Your definition of mental illness is different from mine. Who's to say "Conservatism" or "Christianity" won't be labeled a mental illness? No. I'm sorry. Also - it's going to result in legitimately sick people not wanting to go to the doctor out of fear of losing their weapons, justified or not.

Interesting point on the Conservatism & Christianity part. I could see it playing out that way.

I can't agree on the criminals having access to firearms. I'd say, you have given up your right by committing a violent crime. Like a drunk driver losing their license to drive. Perhaps you can attach a period of time but being a weapon, I'm reluctant.

 

[oldshadow]

Of course you do.

The Vegas killer only had over 40+ weapons.

Clearly your gun control is excellent.

We are good with it but if we want we will make changes or not.

The good news is not matter what you don't get a say and it will not affect you in anyway.

 

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Of course you do.

The Vegas killer only had over 40+ weapons.

Clearly your gun control is excellent.

It wouldn't have mattered if he had 1 or 1000 guns...

 

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At least you learned something.

Yup, I learned Americans are retarded.

 

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Yup, I learned Americans are retarded.

Says the guy that doesn't understand the words he is using.

 

[hillelslovak87]

And you think the only government is the federal government .

Yes, we have state governments. But the federal government has higher authority than the states. If an armed insurrection against a state government happened, nobody should have any doubt that the federal government would bring force to bear. Give American citizens 10 full auto rifles a piece, won't make a damn bit of difference. 1000 people can fire their ak47s at a fighter jet or high altitude attack chopper all they want. They would be a crater all the same.

 

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We are good with it but if we want we will make changes or not.

The good news is not matter what you don't get a say and it will not affect you in anyway.

Nobody gets a say lol

And no it won't affect me, I'm fortunate enough to live in a more civilized society and I'm thankful for that every single day when I look at the news and see everyone shocked about a new mass shooting.

 

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Says the guy that doesn't understand the words he is using.

Actually, I do understand the words I'm using.

A semi-automatic weapon is still an automatic weapon. That's why it's called semi-automatic.

 

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It wouldn't have mattered if he had 1 or 1000 guns...

Maybe not.


It would have mattered if he had zero though.

 

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Actually, I do understand the words I'm using.

A semi-automatic weapon is still an automatic weapon. That's why it's called semi-automatic.

Automatic loading, not automatic firing.