are pitbulls over-rated?

i have a 8 month old pit bull. Im pretty sure i would have to protect her if someone broke into my house. love her to death but a bird pooped on her head this moring and now not even the birds in the neighborhood are scared of her...

Lol that's hilarious

A cat hissed at my pit and had her running scared. My other pit who is still a pup was terrified of a fire hydrant.

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I own 2 pitbulls that will lick you into living death

99% of the people that bad mouth pitbulls are the ones who have never owned one and believe everything the media spews.

If you raise your kid the right way, more times than not he will turn out good.

Neglect them and never teach them right from wrong and then more times than not they will turn out bad.

Same goes for dogs of all breeds.

Well said. I owned one for 11 years and he was the sweetest little dude. Sure, if he didn't know you and you came knocking on the door, he'd bark but what dog won't? All I hd to tell him was quiet down, and he would. And if he recognized a friend, he would go running to them wagging his tail to say hello.

They are wonderful dogs and should be treated with love, care and respect.
 
I think it just is a lot more noticeable with pitbulls because they are very strong and negative stereotypes so incidents get magnified.



Yeah no shit sherlock. Thats the problem.... they can severely injury or kill a person because they are strong.

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Ignorant owners are the one and only cause for all problems with all breeds.
No matter what problem a dog has, it's always without exception because the owner did/does something wrong.
99.99% of dogowners have no knowledge at all about dogs and dog behaviour and no clue how to correct any wrong behaviour.
As far as I'm concerned, if you can't do what the dogwisperer Cesar Milan does, you shouldn't be allowed to have a dog.
I have done the same thing he does on tv for 30 years and know for a fact that the problem is always the owners and never ever the dogs.
Pits are not the problem.
 
Well said. I owned one for 11 years and he was the sweetest little dude. Sure, if he didn't know you and you came knocking on the door, he'd bark but what dog won't? All I hd to tell him was quiet down, and he would. And if he recognized a friend, he would go running to them wagging his tail to say hello.

They are wonderful dogs and should be treated with love, care and respect.


I agree. It baffles me how scared people get when they see me walking my dogs. They will literally cross the street in fear and my dogs dont even bark, they just wag their tails with excitement. My sister use to be fearful bringing my niece over to visit but now after seeing how great my dogs are she comes over constantly so her daughter can play with them. My father wouldnt give my first pit any attention when I got her 2 years ago whenever he would visit because he believes everything the media says, but now he has her pic on his background on his phone and shows everyone he meets pics of her bragging about her.

I just wish more people could be open minded and realize there are alot of great pit bulls out there and they shouldnt judge them all over the ones who have given them a bad name.
 
All lines of dogs are inbred. Inbreeding and line breeding are very common in dogs and horses. When done right, it produces the finest specimens. The issue is that when negative traits arise, those dogs need to be culled.

I can pretty much guarantee most of you have never even seen an actual American Pit Bull Terrier. The vast, vast majority of "pit bulls" you see are actually American Bully's, which are fucking garbage ass dogs, or plain old mutts.

That's true. I had actually had APT, he was lean and weighed no more than 60 pounds. I try to explain to some friends that the stuff they see are American Bully's, they're short, bulky and heads are way too big.
 
I don't care for them as a breed, but a buddy of mine works with a pit bull foster care/rescue group. He's had probably 10 different dogs in the time I've known him, and they''ve all been really good dogs.
 
Ignorant owners are the one and only cause for all problems with all breeds.
No matter what problem a dog has, it's always without exception because the owner did/does something wrong.
99.99% of dogowners have no knowledge at all about dogs and dog behaviour and no clue how to correct any wrong behaviour.
As far as I'm concerned, if you can't do what the dogwisperer Cesar Milan does, you shouldn't be allowed to have a dog.
I have done the same thing he does on tv for 30 years and know for a fact that the problem is always the owners and never ever the dogs.
Pits are not the problem.
dis me.
one day i want like a few different dogs, but should prolly stick to rabbits. i don't train dogs very well (or at all). and it may be beyond my capability because i'm too sensitive. even talking sternly to a dog im like THATS TOO MEAN!!! lololol fuck
 
Well said. I owned one for 11 years and he was the sweetest little dude. Sure, if he didn't know you and you came knocking on the door, he'd bark but what dog won't? All I hd to tell him was quiet down, and he would. And if he recognized a friend, he would go running to them wagging his tail to say hello.

They are wonderful dogs and should be treated with love, care and respect.

Was he a real pit or a staff?

I know so many people who say they have a pit but they really have a staf. Terrior
 
This is an American Pit Bull Terrier. He's one of the best to ever wear a collar.

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This is an American Bully. I wouldn't waste a single cup of food on this piece of shit. One way to tell is the the color "blue", which looks gray, isn't an accepted color in American Pit Bull Terriers.

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You sound like an awful person. The dog isn't at fault for being born with those physical characteristics. What makes it a 'piece of shit'?
 
The very small amount of times I've met a pit, they were very gentle and chill.

It really is just a fact that shitty people tend to want a pitbull. Not the dogs fault. I tend to believe if a pit is raised the way they should be, there will be zero issues.

They can do damage but there should not be any reason for them to snap if they are raised correctly.
 
I own 2 pitbulls that will lick you into living death

99% of the people that bad mouth pitbulls are the ones who have never owned one and believe everything the media spews.

If you raise your kid the right way, more times than not he will turn out good.

Neglect them and never teach them right from wrong and then more times than not they will turn out bad.

Same goes for dogs of all breeds.
Ignorant owners are the one and only cause for all problems with all breeds.
No matter what problem a dog has, it's always without exception because the owner did/does something wrong.
99.99% of dogowners have no knowledge at all about dogs and dog behaviour and no clue how to correct any wrong behaviour.
As far as I'm concerned, if you can't do what the dogwisperer Cesar Milan does, you shouldn't be allowed to have a dog.
I have done the same thing he does on tv for 30 years and know for a fact that the problem is always the owners and never ever the dogs.
Pits are not the problem.
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Logical refutations of popular Pitbull apologism
  • Why are owners so much more likely to be bad owners if they own pits?
  • Why are witnesses so much more likely to mis-identify Pits vs. other breeds based on visual inspection? Why does this mathematically skew only one way?
  • Why are Pits' raw murder and mauling figures so absurdly high disproportionate to other large breeds that are similarly popular?
  • Where is the evidence to substantiate any of these popular, casual colloquialisms? For example, if you give a reason for why Pit Bull owners are more likely to be bad owners, do you have evidence to substantiate that?
  • Ask yourself: why are all of these rationalizations only applied to the defense of Pits, and never for other dogs?
 
Yeah, they’re total cans. Akihiro Gono even beats them all day long.
 
<TrumpWrong1>

Logical refutations of popular Pitbull apologism
  • Why are owners so much more likely to be bad owners if they own pits?
  • Why are witnesses so much more likely to mis-identify Pits vs. other breeds based on visual inspection? Why does this mathematically skew only one way?
  • Why are Pits' raw murder and mauling figures so absurdly high disproportionate to other large breeds that are similarly popular?
  • Where is the evidence to substantiate any of these popular, casual colloquialisms? For example, if you give a reason for why Pit Bull owners are more likely to be bad owners, do you have evidence to substantiate that?
  • Ask yourself: why are all of these rationalizations only applied to the defense of Pits, and never for other dogs?

I have to admit, pits do tend to attract shitty owners. And in a lab test done on the behaviors of different dog breeds, they performed a lot better than many other breeds. But the real world, empirical data clearly tells a different story about their dispositions that suggests it is innate rather than learned.
 
Pitbulls can be a wonderful dog. All dogs can be. I think the proportion of negative data on pitbulls is due to a few factors, including

  • Negative media reinforcement - lots of studies utilise news media as a primary source, and news media responds more frequently and aggresively to 'pitbull' popularism.
  • The breed characteristics that make the breed good for fighting, guarding, killing, attract a high proportion of shitty owners. Nature Vs. nurture is therefore skewed.
  • Dog attack rates for breeds actually pretty closely follow dog ownership rates. FATAL dog attack rates heavily leans towards dogs that have the capacity to inflict fatal wounds. So naturally this more heavily follows breeds such as pitbulls.
My dog is a pitbull cross and is a wonderful animal. It is 35kg's (77lb) and could easily kill a human. It did not have good breeding, unfortunately. I have had him from 8 weeks, and treat him with love and respect. He has taken what I have given him and reflected it back to me, magnified 10 fold. The only emotions he shows are love and respect to all humans and dogs.

He has attacked a dog once - a bull terrier we encountered out in the wild when walking my jack russell with the wife. This bull terrier (unprovoked) attacked and bit down on my jack russell. I grabbed the bull terrier and restrained it against the ground, so it let go of the jack russel and it tried to attack me.

My little man locked onto the terriers face and restrained it whilst I stood up, composed myself, then grabbed the aggressive bull terrier and threw it over the fence (it had got on the wrong side of its fence on a large farm). As soon as i was in control again, my pitty cross backed off straight away. He had the opportunity to savage this dog, but he just did what he had to do to protect me, and no more. A beautiful soul. Whereas i go on a walk with him and people often malign me for how he looks. Fear mongering, no more no less.

I am sure there are bad pit bulls out there, but outside of the rare care of careless inbreeding, I believe all of the breed reputation is from nurture, not nature. Even a basic search of wikipedia backs this stance up.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pit_bull#Dog_attack_risk
 
Ignorant owners are the one and only cause for all problems with all breeds.
No matter what problem a dog has, it's always without exception because the owner did/does something wrong.
99.99% of dogowners have no knowledge at all about dogs and dog behaviour and no clue how to correct any wrong behaviour.
As far as I'm concerned, if you can't do what the dogwisperer Cesar Milan does, you shouldn't be allowed to have a dog.
I have done the same thing he does on tv for 30 years and know for a fact that the problem is always the owners and never ever the dogs.
Pits are not the problem.
I agree with your stance on breeds.

However I don't agree with Cesar Milan's methods being the best approach. I think they are very useful for correcting dog behaviors that have gotten totally out of control (which is the very premise of his show of course). If you start from scratch or start from a more acceptable dog behavioral and dog emotional level a method of positive reinforcement is far more appropriate.

Cesar Milans methods are generally viewed as being wildly out of date by the majority of professional dog trainers and training establishments. Obviously this doesn't include organisations such as police K-9, military and such, who have a more focussed agenda and different goals.
 
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