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History Are men less masculine today?

Are they?

  • Yes

    Votes: 99 89.2%

  • No

    Votes: 4 3.6%

  • Around the same

    Votes: 8 7.2%
  • Total voters
    111
mozfonky said:
I guess, but a deadbeat is even worse isn't it?

Overall, yes, men are less masculine and/or more deluded than ever. There are still the mouthy, entitled punks who are plenty aggressive but wouldn't be able to handle a physical altercation.

Judge Joe Brown theorizes that feminism "ruined this country" by making men more feminine and he stated a prescient fact that our males going nuts and shooting up lots of people is proof that adding feminine emotionalism to the predator of the species has made young men crazy. I think there is something to that and it's not really these kids' faults if they were taught all this.

Of course, there are all sorts of demographics still today and the old fashioned american masculinity is still out there all over and it's still a pain in the ass but there are a lot more guys running around in dresses and a lot more confused males thinking manhood means shooting up your highschool.
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Yea, I’m not argueing with that. I’m also not from the US but half East German/ half polish so I’ll have different perspective on all of that starting with the meaning of masculinity.

I have a kid and take care of him without the classic approach. I don’t even have a driving license which is extremely unmanly in the US.

being an emotional, self entitled brat, screaming about Gaza is not what I meant by fire walking with you btw. ;)
 
Well, if you just look at elementary school today and compare it to let's say 40 years ago (in The USA), physical ed classes were very prevalent back in the day.
The orientation for guys was physically motivated.
Nowadays it's all about the internet and mobile phone.
Guys are not as athletic, overall, so definitely less masculine.
 
I fly off the handle and have stupid outbursts and rants all the time. So did my dad and Tony Soprano and any other real man. I think thats pretty god damn masculine if you ask me. Other men, younger men, seem bitchmade. Made of bitch. Passive aggressive. Passive passive. Scared of conflict, confrontation. It's not feminine , but it ain't masculine. Maybe there's a new gender for that.
 
Osculater said:
MMA is gay
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DaysOfThunder said:
Well, if you just look at elementary school today and compare it to let's say 40 years ago (in The USA), physical ed classes were very prevalent back in the day.
The orientation for guys was physically motivated.
Nowadays it's all about the internet and mobile phone.
Guys are not as athletic, overall, so definitely less masculine.
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While people on average have gained weight due to poor diet and a much lower rate of non-exercise-oriented movement, things that traditionally have been seen as masculine, like martial arts and fitness/lifting culture, have all exploded into the mainstream and are way more prevalent than 40 years ago, how do you explain that?
 
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MidgardSerpent said:
While people on average have gained weight due to poor diet and a much lower rate of non-exercise-oriented movement, things that traditionally have been seen as masculine, like martial arts and fitness/lifting culture, have all exploded into the mainstream and are way more prevalent than 40 years ago, how do you explain that?
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Extreme stratification is definitive of the time we live in. More extremely buff and fit dudes, more morbidly obese dudes, less average joes.
 
Not sure if it's been mentioned, but the average male testosterone in the 90s is considered very high today. Likely it had already been declining for decades at that point. This likely has dire medical consequences, which is to say nothing of the social consequences it likely has.
 
mozfonky said:
I knew a guy who came from a richer family, he had major daddy issues, the absent/traveling workaholic dad and he was just a mess. And he was mouthy as hell, sarcastic and coming from where I come from, I couldn't get along with him. I come from a place where you don't give a lot of lip because all hell can break loose from it, and that's the way our society used to be. Men would fight it out over trivial disagreements, now the system is all up in everything and we just can't do that. I'm not violent anyways but there have been times, many times where someone was shooting off at the mouth with what would be considered "fighting words" 75 years ago and all I'll do is just tell them that they can't get away with that everywhere, one guy just said mockingly "ooohhh". Can't change people and it's not your job to teach anything to anyone. In short, I try to stay away from a lot of males today, lots of blowhard and no substance.
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Well, violence doesn't stop at who is the biggest guy anymore, so maybe that is a good thing that we don't go off at every perceived slight.

I think this of most people anyway, regardless of sex. People just get hyped up by others too easily, and nobody points out mistakes or issues with people's actions without trying to excuse it away first. Tends to make everyone feel validated in what they do, or how they think, and then they never truly grow. Everyone is perfect now, so what is the point of growth and self-analysis? None. Let's just all pretend we are 10's, with IQs of 145 or above. That is so much easier for the ego to endure. Not saying I am a man of great substance... Only that I recognize that fact, and try to improve on it rather than ignore it for praise by randoms on the internet.
 
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