Arab-Israeli Conflict, v2: What the UN Jerusalem vote mean for Israel, the U.S, and Palestine

[abiG]

1 man, in a speech in the 1980s..... That's your supporting evidence that Israel as a whole says they shot first in the 6 Day War.

It was Ben-Gurion from a famous speech and it is posted on Israel's government site. I am not sure what else you want.

 

[LMP]

This doesn't really mean much at all. U.N. is kinda worthless with out the US backing it sad to say.

 

[Gregolian]

America and its hubris.

Its threats arent the same after the Iraq war failure.

It has hubris though because the UN can't enforce shit without US firepower. It just can't.

 

[berimBOWLoh]

can we just pull out of the UN and stop funding them? they obviously dont need us and our money

It would be worse for Israel that way. America is their automatic veto

 

[berimBOWLoh]

That has nothing to do with Trump. The US has always supported Israel against the whole world because of the jewish lobby. If it was the opposite and the US had a strong muslim lobby Israel would be no more.

That has nothing to do with Trump. The US has always supported Israel against the whole world because of the jewish lobby. If it was the opposite and the US had a strong muslim lobby Israel would be no more.

Actually isn't true, Nixon didn't like Jews he just hates commies more. Usa helped Israel because it makes strategic sense in the region af the time to stop it all from turning red

 

[abiG]

the Palestinians in their quest to get rid of jews,

Palestinians are not on a quest to get rid of Jews. The zionists are on that quest and it is almost complete.

 

[Rod1]

It has hubris though because the UN can't enforce shit without US firepower. It just can't.

Russia in Syria says otherwise or Gambia.

As US hubris makes people respect the US less, more and more nations are taking a proactive role in international affairs.

 

[Rod1]

I would argue the UN fancies themselves rulers/leaders of a world government. They just have zero way to enforce any of their resolutions without US military help.

Who is the UN? as i said it is a forum where nations talk to each other, its not an entity that fancies themselves as ruler of the world.

Unless you call international consensus as such.

 

[Seaside]

No, absolutely not.

800.000. probably equals today 1.600.000 million from double population growth birth rates

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_exodus_from_Arab_and_Muslim_countries

 

[splendica]

Palestinians are not on a quest to get rid of Jews. The zionists are on that quest and it is almost complete.

Fresh take alert!

 

[Gregolian]

Who is the UN? as i said it is a forum where nations talk to each other, its not an entity that fancies themselves as ruler of the world.

Unless you call international consensus as such.

The building is a forum. The way they pass resolutions and try to inspect countries (case in point the weapon inspectors in Iraq) and the way they hand out judgment in times of crisis like Rwanda and Somalia and Yugoslavia... whenever they use their peacekeeping force to try and implement/enforce something it almost always has blown up in their face and the US has to bail their asses out.

 

[splendica]

U.N. geniuses' plan goes something like this:

"Reject US designation of Jerusalem as Israel capital . . . Kill the Jew wherever you find them! Thanks rocks and trees for all the help too!"

 

[abiG]

800.000. probably equals today 1.600.000 million from double population growth birth rates

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_exodus_from_Arab_and_Muslim_countries

I am not denying that. Prior to zionism they lived for the most part quite peacefully with their Arab hosts.

 

[Seaside]

but seriously UN website hard to search. i just want to see list countries who vote yes and no. wtf so hard to find

 

[Rod1]

The building is a forum. The way they pass resolutions and try to inspect countries (case in point the weapon inspectors in Iraq) and the way they hand out judgment in times of crisis like Rwanda and Somalia and Yugoslavia... whenever they use their peacekeeping force to try and implement/enforce something it almost always has blown up in their face and the US has to bail their asses out.

The UN itself is a forum, the ones that pass resolutions and vote on them are the nations of the world.

 

[Rod1]

but seriously UN website hard to search. i just want to see list countries who vote yes and no. wtf so hard to find

No is Israel, US, Canada and GB, plus some island nations which the US bought.

Yes, the rest of the world.

 

[JbModest]

In June 1967 we again had a choice. The Egyptian army concentrations in the Sinai approaches do not prove that Nasser was really about to attack us. We must be honest with ourselves. We decided to attack him.
http://www.mfa.gov.il/mfa/foreignpolicy/mfadocuments/yearbook6/pages/55 address by prime minister begin at the national.aspx?ViewMode=Print

The article also had him saying the 48 and 73 wars, were wars of no choice. Do you agree with that statement?

 

[Law Talkin’ Guy]

No.

 

[Gregolian]

The UN itself is a forum, the ones that pass resolutions and vote on them are the nations of the world.

You're completely missing what I am saying.

The UN as an entity will pass a resolution. Then send their baby blue helmet wearing Fijian force to try and implement said resolution at times. It almost ALWAYS blows up in their face and the US military has to step in to try and correct the problem.

THE UN, as a governing body, fancies themselves a collective that is a world government in essence otherwise they wouldn't have the UN Peacekeepers... and they can never enforce the shit they discuss and try to implement.

Get it now?

 

[abiG]

The article also had him saying the 48 and 73 wars, were wars of no choice. Do you agree with that statement?

Absolutely not.