Anyone here respect Jake Paul more now after that fight with Joshua?

[Killhippies]

He's got 2 titanium plates in his jaw now and is missing several teeth. He'll need to get implants. Was it really worth it? I don't think so. Jake should've fought someone he had a realistic chance of beating for a lot of money instead.

That would have been Tank but since that fight fell through, he had to strike while the iron was hot before the financers noped out. He already got Tyson and that honestly was his best money to risk ratio.

Fury and Uysk make too much money to engage in the clown show and would not agree to go easy on him, Canelo might be on the table now though since he knows his better days are over and AJ has gave this BS more legitimacy if he wants the big easy pay day.

 

[GearSolidMetal]

He's got 2 titanium plates in his jaw now and is missing several teeth. He'll need to get implants. Was it really worth it? I don't think so.

There's people that do Jackass stunts for free and get horribly injured.

You'd be surprised of the laundry list of injuries experienced pro-wrestlers have had, and MMA fighters, and their career earnings are a small fraction of $100 million.

So something tells me Jake Paul has zero regrets after last night, earning $100 million, and only has two titanium plates in his lower jaw because his teeth caved in.

 

[Kovalev's "Man Bag"]

That would have been Tank but since that fight fell through, he had to strike while the iron was hot before the financers noped out. He already got Tyson and that honestly was his best money to risk ratio.

Fury and Uysk make too much money to engage in the clown show and would not agree to go easy on him, Canelo might be on the table now though since he knows his better days are over and AJ has gave this BS more legitimacy if he wants the big easy pay day.

The Tank fight though was only going to be an exhibition. How he went from that to fighting a guy like AJ in a sanctioned fight is ridiculous. Now Jake's talking about fighting for a cruiserweight title. He's delusional.

 

[that Indian]

I do respect Jake Paul for trying to win at times even though he fought mostly terrified and mixed wrestling and track into the fight plan.

However, I don't respect him wasting our time--which is what his entire career has amounted to. Cheap voyeurism.

I do respect what he has done to women's boxing. Although--and this is going to sound sexist--that sport just does not sell itself. For some reason, WMMA is much more dynamic and appealing at the highest levels.

I do think that the public humiliation he endured, plus the memory of running in terror and panic wrestling is going to be forever engrained in him. He won't ever take on a legitimate fighter that is his size or bigger again. He may try to push for Tank again, but honestly his star is on the fall now and he has to make the most out of what little time he has left in boxing.

 

[Kovalev's "Man Bag"]

There's people that do Jackass stunts for free and get horribly injured.

You'd be surprised of the laundry list of injuries experienced pro-wrestlers have had, and MMA fighters, and their career earnings are a small fraction of $100 million.

So something tells me Jake Paul has zero regrets after last night, earning $100 million, and only has two titanium plates in his lower jaw because his teeth caved in.

I get that but this was a really stupid move for a guy that was known prior for carefully picking his opponents in order to maximize his risk/reward.

 

[Killhippies]

The Tank fight though was only going to be an exhibition. How he went from that to fighting a guy like AJ in a sanctioned fight is ridiculous. Now Jake's talking about fighting for a cruiserweight title. He's delusional.

He is like Mcgregor, says a whole bunch of shit that never goes to fruition. It's all part of the hype cycle to see which fighters will take the bait and then see how much Turki is willing to whip out the paycheck for.

I think he was given a ultimatum for this fight for the kind of money he wanted and took it. He will gun for the Canelo fight next but keep his options open if the money is right.

 

[that Indian]

The Tank fight though was only going to be an exhibition. How he went from that to fighting a guy like AJ in a sanctioned fight is ridiculous. Now Jake's talking about fighting for a cruiserweight title. He's delusional.

If he fights a guy that isn't afraid of getting cold cracked, like Opetaia or Benevidez, he is going to publicly defecate. However, no one wants to see this quivering mess running, hugging and tackling his way to a disqualification.

The only fights he can sell now are maybe with Tank again or somebody like Garcia.

 

[Jesus X]

I respect Andy Ruiz jr even more after the punishment he took from joshua that dude must have an iron skull if joshua broke paul face.

 

[Pictureonthewall]

No. This influencer / celebrity boxing needs to go.

 

[mozfonky]

No. This influencer / celebrity boxing needs to go.

fads that lack substance come and go, hopefully that will happen. It's insulting to the many unknowns who take the sport seriously and dedicate themselves without playing to cameras all day or trolling everyone and creating a circus. It really is nothing new though, boxing has always had nutty shit going on that shouldn't happen and with big names too. Fighting itself is a nutty thing, it's human to want to see it so strangers beat each other's brains out for some cash. It's always been around even before money or compensation but the entire idea of fighting someone you aren't angry with or who hasn't personally done anything to you, is bizarre. Just like war itself.

 

[MRT]

On the one hand, Jake did what any of us claim we would do...get in the ring with pretty much anyone, given the pay day attached to it...so that alone would not garner more respect.

On the other hand, despite the predictable outcome, Jake got up multiple times when he could easily have quit and no one would have blinked...and he somehow stayed conscious from that KO shot that would have flatlined most people.

Broken jaw, surgery, and some brain trauma aside...Jake will (and should) be relatively pleased with how this all turned out. He will still be mocked by many for not really belonging in there with someone of AJ's calibre...but simply by not getting murked inside of two rounds like Francis, he will gain some credibility among many others.

The real question is...what's next? It won't be a good look if he goes back to gimmick fights...

 

[GearSolidMetal]

I get that but this was a really stupid move for a guy that was known prior for carefully picking his opponents in order to maximize his risk/reward.

And I'm not convinced the original plan wasn't for Joshua to win in a decision.

Looking at the punchstats Joshua was obviously carrying Jake, pulling his punches, and even then Jake couldn't hang.

Joshua knew by the 5th round if he kept carrying Jake his reputation would be in the shitter and ruin any chance for another payday against Fury, so he landed a few good shots... which he could have landed at any point in the fight... to finish Jake off.

You're right, Jake was stupid.... uncharacteristically stupid... but he's actually not stupid actually.

In my speculation about the fight I may have implied there was a script both were performing for each round. I bet a decision win for Joshua was originally the plan, but they weren't throwing pro-wrestling punches. Some punches had to land with some heat behind them and they effected Jake far more than was anticipated so a change in the script was made.

 

[Kovalev's "Man Bag"]

And I'm not convinced the original plan wasn't for Joshua to win in a decision.

Looking at the punchstats Joshua was obviously carrying Jake, pulling his punches, and even then Jake couldn't hang.

Joshua knew by the 5th round if he kept carrying Jake his reputation would be in the shitter and ruin any chance for another payday against Fury, so he landed a few good shots... which he could have landed at any point in the fight... to finish Jake off.

You're right, Jake was stupid.... uncharacteristically stupid... but he's actually not stupid actually.

In my speculation about the fight I may have implied there was a script both were performing for each round. I bet a decision win for Joshua was originally the plan, but they weren't throwing pro-wrestling punches. Some punches had to land with some heat behind them and they effected Jake far more than was anticipated so a change in the script was made.

Some objective analysts have also concluded that Jake was carried for the first 4 rounds. There's an overwhelming body of evidence to suggest that's the case including the punch stats as you've already mentioned. I never thought AJ would agree to this but he did. SMH

 

[GearSolidMetal]

Some objective analysts have also concluded that Jake was carried for the first 4 rounds. There's an overwhelming body of evidence to suggest that's the case including the punch stats as you've already mentioned. I never thought AJ would agree to this but he did. SMH

BTW, I was shocked the commentators mentioned the punch stats after Round2.

If they were in on the narrative they absolutely wouldn't have gone anywhere close to mentioning them. The absolute worst of Joshua's career.

 

[Kovalev's "Man Bag"]

BTW, I was shocked the commentators mentioned the punch stats after Round2.

If they were in on the narrative they absolutely wouldn't have gone anywhere close to mentioning them. The absolute worst of Joshua's career.

Yep, and it's not a coincidence. Even one of those knockdowns is highly suspect. The punch didn't even land or come close to it and yet Jake dropped to the ground where it was ruled a knockdown. It's shown in slow motion in the video I just posted.

 

[GearSolidMetal]

Yep, and it's not a coincidence. Even one of those knockdowns is highly suspect. The punch didn't even land or come close to it and yet Jake dropped to the ground where it was ruled a knockdown. It's shown in slow motion in the video I just posted.

Haven't watched it in its entirety, but of the few minutes I did see I agree with all of it.

Downloading it at full resolution to watch later.

 

[Takes Two To Tango]

Would you respect him the same or less after I point out his only losses are against the two men who's around the same age & size (Tommy Fury) and larger than him (Anthony Joshua)?

Every win he has is against someone significantly older or significantly smaller.

Well he took on probably the scariest HW in boxing. And he survived 6 rounds ended up with a broken jaw. I'd say I respect him, regardless if he lost.

 

[Takes Two To Tango]

I do respect Jake Paul for trying to win at times even though he fought mostly terrified and mixed wrestling and track into the fight plan.

However, I don't respect him wasting our time--which is what his entire career has amounted to. Cheap voyeurism.

I do respect what he has done to women's boxing. Although--and this is going to sound sexist--that sport just does not sell itself. For some reason, WMMA is much more dynamic and appealing at the highest levels.

I do think that the public humiliation he endured, plus the memory of running in terror and panic wrestling is going to be forever engrained in him. He won't ever take on a legitimate fighter that is his size or bigger again. He may try to push for Tank again, but honestly his star is on the fall now and he has to make the most out of what little time he has left in boxing.

Yes this one thing I respect Jake Paul for doing is trying to promote or hype up women boxing. Kudos to him for that.

 

[GearSolidMetal]

Well he took on probably the scariest HW in boxing. And he survived 6 rounds ended up with a broken jaw. I'd say I respect him, regardless if he lost.

I'd happily do the same for $92 million, and smile with a broken jaw afterwards.

 

[defjaam]

Some objective analysts have also concluded that Jake was carried for the first 4 rounds. There's an overwhelming body of evidence to suggest that's the case including the punch stats as you've already mentioned. I never thought AJ would agree to this but he did. SMH

This guy is generally a good analyst, but he often reads too much into things and thinks every move is a subtle tactical detail.

Does he mention in that video that Joshua has a new coach? Does he mention that Anthony Joshua has always lacked foot speed?

Sometimes it’s simple—no reason to overcomplicate things.