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Food & Drink Anyone here done AA meetings or the like?

Natural Order said:
Part of the nightshade family of plants I believe (most are funky in some way or another). Is the stuff Columbian women were using to drug foreign men and have them empty their bank accounts! Witchcraft stuff for real!
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I looked it up. Highly toxic stuff. It seeps through the skin, so it would be easy to "dose" someone without them knowing. I'll pass, lol.
 
I hate it when I'm at a neighborhood BBQ and some guy comes up and filibusters me with his life story about how bad his life used to be and how he is a changed man and is now enlightened and spiritual. Save it for your AA meeting.
 
Crazy Source said:
I looked it up. Highly toxic stuff. It seeps through the skin, so it would be easy to "dose" someone without them knowing. I'll pass, lol.
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If you want some scary/funny reads, go on erowid.org and read some the datura experiences. Some of the scariest and funniest stuff you could read about a drug experience.
 
Natural Order said:
If you want some scary/funny reads, go on erowid.org and read some the datura experiences. Some of the scariest and funniest stuff you could read about a drug experience.
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I used to do "research" on erowid, lol. I'll go over there and check them out. Have you ever done salvia? Now that is some funky shit.

Edit-My bad for derailing, especially considering the subject.
 
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Crazy Source said:
I used to do "research" on erowid, lol. I'll go over there and check them out. Have you ever done salvia? Now that is some funky shit.

Edit-My bad for derailing, especially considering the subject.
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lmfao. Yeah bad derail, our bad.

Yes, buddies tricked me with some weed over top of a bowl of salvia. Funny experience, only needed once!
 
Crazy Source said:
As you can tell, there are many on this forum that share similar demons. You can get a lot of support and shared experiences here. DM me anytime, no homo.
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Tx! I'm very happy about the answers. It does help me. I still apprehend Tuesday's meeting. I've been drunk for the last 36 hours.
 
koquerelle said:
Tx! I'm very happy about the answers. It does help me. I still apprehend Tuesday's meeting. I've been drunk for the last 36 hours.
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I'm on my 4th beer. Get something in your belly at least and pound a few glasses of water. Stay at home and be safe. Going on a last hoorah? Most in the program have been there. CHEERS, brother. Don't go to a dark place. Chill to some music or do something else that will lift your mood. What are you drinking? I'm guessing you are a whisky or vodka fella.
 
Crazy Source said:
I'm on my 4th beer. Get something in your belly at least and pound a few glasses of water. Stay at home and be safe. Going on a last hoorah? Most in the program have been there. CHEERS, brother. Don't go to a dark place. Chill to some music or do something else that will lift your mood. What are you drinking? I'm guessing you are a whisky or vodka fella.
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Cheap Scotch (Jameson) and beer. I'm like that fat fuck at a buffet who's about to close.

I'm usually a Bourbon guy, but the idiotic Québec government took out all the US products. You paid for it, morons. Sell your stocks!
 
koquerelle said:
Cheap Scotch (Jameson) and beer. I'm like that fat fuck at a buffet who's about to close.

I'm usually a Bourbon guy, but the idiotic Québec government took out all the US products. You paid for it, morons. Sell your stocks!
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Yeah, right? Just don't order more! I'm a beer guy since I act crazy with liquor and want hard drugs when I drink it. I just binge-watched "Landman". Billy Bob is an alcoholic that drinks beer. Believe me, AA peeps would not be cool with that, but it works for me.
 
Fury said:
The other interesting part is when I tell them that I'm not alcoholic who quit drinking, my not drinking then makes them uncomfortable.
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100%. If you're an alcoholic, they can drink and feel better than you. If you just don't feel like drinking, they have to look inward and wonder why they always have a few drinks whenever they go out.
 
Crazy Source said:
I find it egregious considering the state that some of those girls (or boys for that matter) are in, especially when they first enter the program. Going to the gym, church, college, etc. to meet someone is just normal life shit. Going to AA/NA meeting to take advantage of vulnerable people is fucking disgusting.
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it is, it absolutely is but in my observation, you really can't stop something like that anywhere, there will always be people like that unless you put the clamps down really heavy.

I had an old friend who met a girlfriend in rehab, which sounds like a stupid on idea on the face of it and it was. I think they were pill poppers though or at least the program wasn't strictly alcohol. My friend was an alcoholic and if i recall, it wasn't AA, just some other program. Anyway, I chided him, telling him how stupid it was meeting someone at a place like that with similar issues at a bad time and then trying to make a go of it. Of course it didn't work and got pretty nasty.

As far as our friendship, it didn't last long. I liked him a lot and he was a good man but I'm a loner and if you've been around enough alcoholics/addicts, when they are constantly trying to kick, they hate being alone and hate doing nothing, it's draining being around them. My sister was like that when she tried to stop and if you already have a job taking 40-60 hours a week and you need to rest when you're not working and not "what are we gonna do next?" "then what?" it's just too draining. It's not fair that we live in the world we live in but truly, we're all alone and all on our own underneath all the pretenses.
 
Crazy Source said:
I had no idea Bill W. took belladonna (I have no idea what that is). I remember that in the movie with James Woods, he "sees a light" and he quits from there, so I guess they were trying to touch on it without saying it. Psilocybin trips have been very spiritual for me, so I could see how, in the right environment, they could be a useful tool. Great advice btw.
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I heard stuff like that which the contrarians like to point out. I keep saying, I only know the many people in my family that either quit drinking completely or if they still drank weren't as bad like my dad. The contrarians for whatever reason just have to oppose everything, my sister was like that, died at 29 with a completely non-functioning liver, hep, full blown AIDS and me feeling like I wasted my time and resented her so much for taking so much of it trying to help someone who didn't want to be saved. That's a shitty position to be in and I've been in it with all 3 of my immediate family, all 3, my brother is still alive, heavy smoker, 400 pounds plus and I can't do shit for him really.

When people are that far out of control and the structure of our society, where it's every man for himself, a program or any help is needed for issues like that.
 
mozfonky said:
it is, it absolutely is but in my observation, you really can't stop something like that anywhere, there will always be people like that unless you put the clamps down really heavy.

I had an old friend who met a girlfriend in rehab, which sounds like a stupid on idea on the face of it and it was. I think they were pill poppers though or at least the program wasn't strictly alcohol. My friend was an alcoholic and if i recall, it wasn't AA, just some other program. Anyway, I chided him, telling him how stupid it was meeting someone at a place like that with similar issues at a bad time and then trying to make a go of it. Of course it didn't work and got pretty nasty.

As far as our friendship, it didn't last long. I liked him a lot and he was a good man but I'm a loner and if you've been around enough alcoholics/addicts, when they are constantly trying to kick, they hate being alone and hate doing nothing, it's draining being around them. My sister was like that when she tried to stop and if you already have a job taking 40-60 hours a week and you need to rest when you're not working and not "what are we gonna do next?" "then what?" it's just too draining. It's not fair that we live in the world we live in but truly, we're all alone and all on our own underneath all the pretenses.
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You see the trainwrecks 10 steps ahead but cannot stop it. Hooking up in rehab will 99% of the time get you back on the shit you were trying to get off of. As far as those trying to kick and being glommy? They were like that before and are just being themselves. They don't get a pass for being insufferable bores just because they want to kick. I'm like you. I enjoy my solitude.
 
Crazy Source said:
You see the trainwrecks 10 steps ahead but cannot stop it. Hooking up in rehab will 99% of the time get you back on the shit you were trying to get off of. As far as those trying to kick and being glommy? They were like that before and are just being themselves. They don't get a pass for being insufferable bores just because they want to kick. I'm like you. I enjoy my solitude.
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He was a wonderful guy, funny, very smart, financially independent and decent but I'm not rich and I have to survive and i have other things that I like doing, mostly solitary. I had to cut him off as much as I liked him. He's one of the few people I cut off like that where there was practically nothing bad that went down. Wonderful guy in a world full of bastards. I've had people I trusted a lot more who turned out to be complete assholes and they weren't addicts, at least not of alcohol or drugs at all. Which can make me veer this off in a total other direction that no one really wants to focus on, our biggest addictions are money/control/power. Those have hurt me, hurt my relationships and hurt my life a lot. And, yes, reinforced why I like being alone.
 
mozfonky said:
He was a wonderful guy, funny, very smart, financially independent and decent but I'm not rich and I have to survive and i have other things that I like doing, mostly solitary. I had to cut him off as much as I liked him. He's one of the few people I cut off like that where there was practically nothing bad that went down. Wonderful guy in a world full of bastards. I've had people I trusted a lot more who turned out to be complete assholes and they weren't addicts, at least not of alcohol or drugs at all. Which can make me veer this off in a total other direction that no one really wants to focus on, our biggest addictions are money/control/power. Those have hurt me, hurt my relationships and hurt my life a lot. And, yes, reinforced why I like being alone.
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All of this window dressing comes down to one thing: Control.
 
Had to do group when I was on a suboxone prescription through kaiser. Its fucking incredibly awkward and embarrassing at first. And the longer you let the feelings be at the forefront it'll always suck and you'll gain nothing from it. The quicker you open to it honestly and actively participate, the quicker it's no longer uncomfortable and awkward. And you'll learn alot in the process. Not only about yourself, it opens your perspective to addiction. Helped me tremendously find and allow empathy into my once cold dead heart.
 
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