anyone else bothered by how differently the judges saw the guilard-varner fight?

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  1. blah_blah619

    blah_blah619 Purple Belt

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    i mean i'm not here to argue for one fighter over another but i dont see how 3 judges can use the same scoring criteria and yet see the fight completely different. 30-27, 27-30, 30-27 split decision should never happen. ever.
     
  2. Russian AK47

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    I agree, at least the right guy won.

    I have no idea how a judge could have seen it 30-27 for Melvin.
     
  3. Body Shot

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    That was pretty crazy since Melvin was dropped in the first round.
     
  4. F Z NUTZ

    F Z NUTZ Banned Banned

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    The guy should be taken out back and shot. He is useless! Thank got the right guy won. Good close fight, but an obvious winner.
     
  5. Michael13

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    It's a clear sign that these judges are not taught about MMA rules...... they just score on whatever they like.....boxing rules....kickboxing rules.....wrestling rules......
     
  6. johnsq316

    johnsq316 Red Belt

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    So how long have you been watching MMA anyway?

    That's pretty much par for the course.
     
  7. trident

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    That's why there are three judges - there's always bound to be a retard, chances are you don't get two retards; but that happens too.
     
  8. Simian Raticus

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    It's suspicious.
     
  9. kollif

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    From the play by play:
    http://www.sherdog.com/news/news/UFC-155-Results-Dos-Santos-vs-Velasquez-2-PlaybyPlay-Updates-48565

    Official result: Max Holloway def. Leonard Garcia via Split Decision (29-28, 28-29, 29-28) R3 5:00
    Official result: Jamie Varner def. Melvin Guillard via Split Decision (30-27, 27-30, 30-27) R3 5:00
    Official result: Eddie Wineland def. Brad Pickett via Split Decision (30-27, 28-29, 30-27) R3 5:00

    Assuming its the same judge that scored it for Tim Bradley, Condit and Machida :)
     
  10. airman20012001

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    yep, the lauzon and belcher fight's got me scared with this numbnuts judging.
     
  11. DrewGZA

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    Maybe one judge actually didn't consider the leg kicks useless? How much did Varner do? The fight was pretty back and forth.

    Just because they don't have 3 judges that score the exact same way as each other doesn't mean anything is wrong. 2 judges scoring 1 way and a third scoring another doesn't automatically mean the 2 are right.
     
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    Like i said in the other thread: the police should head out immediately to the judges house to see if his spouse or children are being hold hostage!
     
  13. Hugo Drax

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    Aside from the nice leg kicks Melvin really didn't do shit.
     
  14. blah_blah619

    blah_blah619 Purple Belt

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    I can understand disparages between judging, everyone has a different opinion, but for one judge to say this guy won every round and another judge say he didn't win any rounds seems a little off to me
     
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    this clearly shows any judge can give any score they like and nobody can say anything or do anything about it! wtf!
     
  16. Viper98

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    it was a close fight

    I can see how judges could have seen guillard winning round 1 and 2

    Round 3 is the only round that Varner clearly won
     
  17. Graniteeyed

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    The 29-28 score of Pickett-Wineland was worse. How someone gave Pickett even one stanza really stretches and astonishes my limited, mortal mind. Melvin-Varner at least had one or two rounds that weren't completely dominant.
     
  18. DoopidyDawesome

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    Yeah, 30-27 Melvin was a fucking dumbshit score, but I could see how one (not me) could have seen it 29-28 for Melvin.
     
  19. OMMAniscient

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    I have 2 theories for this:

    1) Sometimes it seems the judges agree that one of them will give a consolation score for the loser.

    2) That judge bet on Guillard.
     
  20. effedup

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    Yeah 1 and 2 where close and depended on what the judges were looking for. Guillard was landing a bunch of leg kicks and started workin that jab in the second.

    Still think the right man won though but it's not like it was a landslide.
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    I agree Doopidy
     

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