Anyone consider themselves a good negotiator? What strategies do you use?

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BroScienceTalkatWork

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I gotta win this negotiation with my boss, brehs. I have all the leverage.. I create all of the leads. That's sales talk. "Leads".. "leverage".. We're talking fucking business in here fellas.

Anyways.. it's a poorly run compnay. If there were more salespeople I would move myself into a supervisor position. But they can't hire.

My options are

1 Find a way to take on responsibilities and ask for more money

2 Procure an offer from another company and give them an ultimatum.

Leaning towards the second one.
 
syct23 said:
You have NO Cards…
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Not true. Even my boss has admitted that I have substantial leverage. They would be fucked if I left. And I have money saved up. I'm not living check to check. I could even drive Uber if I wanted. Lol.

But right now I gotta procure an offer
 
BroScienceTalkatWork said:
I gotta win this negotiation with my boss, brehs. I have all the leverage.. I create all of the leads. That's sales talk. "Leads".. "leverage".. We're talking fucking business in here fellas.

Anyways.. it's a poorly run compnay. If there were more salespeople I would move myself into a supervisor position. But they can't hire.

My options are

1 Find a way to take on responsibilities and ask for more money

2 Procure an offer from another company and give them an ultimatum.

Leaning towards the second one.
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I'm a dick. At work I was the best. I knew it. If my boss was being a asshole I went over his head and I always won. One boss fired me and the gm threatened him, if he didn't get me back it was his ass. After that I was unstoppable
 
ricc505 said:
I'm a dick. At work I was the best. I knew it. If my boss was being a asshole I went over his head and I always won. One boss fired me and the gm threatened him, if he didn't get me back it was his ass. After that I was unstoppable
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Damn dude. what's your career?
 
SmoothPies said:
Sadly, the only proven way to do it is to get an offer somewhere else, and let your boss know. He/she then might give you a counter to stay, but you need to be prepared to leave
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Yeah, I'm losing money here. Like 55k a year before taxes. Granted, I work like 35 hours a week. But I wanna be 80k-120k
 
Fury said:
This is why you have no leverage
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My boss would disagree with you. Ive successfully negotiated twice in the past. But I don't have fantastic leverage. We can agree on that.

I really don't want one of those soulsucking B2B jobs. For now, I think I found a 3rd option - Ask for a raise, and work extra hours in our underperforming locations. . So I got that.. Extra 800$ a month off overtime.. And then coupled with a 20% raise on commission.

50$ an appointment to 60$. Now if they come back with 55$.. I probably have to take that. If I ask for 57.5$ or some dumb shit, they will tell me to fuck off
 
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I negotiate for a living. Leverage is key. If they have told you that you are valuable and they would be screwed if you left, that's all the leverage you can ask for. Doesn't guarantee the results you want though.

The big question is, how far are you willing to push it. You can use your leverage to try and get the results you want by simply presenting a strong case of your value and worth. However , if they play hardball are you willing to tell them you are putting your notice in and taking a different job.
 
BroScienceTalkatWork said:
My boss would disagree with you. Ive successfully negotiated twice in the past. But I don't have fantastic leverage. We can agree on that.

I really don't want one of those soulsucking B2B jobs. For now, I think I found a 3rd option - Ask for a raise, and work extra hours in our underperforming locations. . So I got that.. Extra 800$ a month off overtime.. And then coupled with a 20% raise on commission.

50$ an appointment to 60$. Now if they come back with 55$.. I probably have to take that. If I ask for 57.5$ or some dumb shit, they will tell me to fuck off
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You're asking negotiating advice on sherdog and you say your job is easy... Sounds like anyone could do it... No leverage
 
Fury said:
You're asking negotiating advice on sherdog and you say your job is easy... Sounds like anyone could do it... No leverage
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Oh yeah dude any sherdogger could do it no problem.

But the general... Non sherdog population... Well those motherfuckers have trouble tying their shoes ...
 
BroScienceTalkatWork said:
Damn dude. what's your career?
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I was just saying this in another thread. It sounds like bullshit but I'm unsure what I can say, I was never debriefed, so I don't give details. The boss that fired me didn't dislike me, he was flexing and picked the wrong guy. I was fired Wednesday afternoon and he had people looking for me that night. Came back Friday for a meeting and got almost a 50% raise just to get back in the door and then more to do what he originally asked. I've bought 2 homes, first at 26 years old. I paid 70k under list for both houses. I negotiate and barter on everything.
 
I'd go with a third option. Sell your talents to them, with step 2 in my back pocket.

I would never take on more responsibility if I thought I deserved a higher wage for a current role.

Nothing better than an employer refusing your offer, then taking your book (with dedicated clients) to a new employer
 
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