Social Andrew Yang is being rejected by Asian-Americans

[Bald1]

Murdering unintentionally keeps me going.

How was I supposed to know the little yappi bastard would eat the toxic plant I accidentally planted in his food dish?

 

[tonni]

How was I supposed to know the little yappi bastard would eat the toxic plant I accidentally planted in his food dish?

You had no way of knowing. It wasn't you who planted those seeds anyway, what seeds? What Pom? You thought someone forgot their fur hat, didn't see it was a Pom.

 

[Bald1]

You had no way of knowing. It wasn't you who planted those seeds anyway, what seeds? What Pom? You thought someone forgot their fur hat, didn't see it was a Pom.

Lol.

I gotta bail on this. I've already derailed a thread do badly today that it had to be locked. Can't do another one.

 

[Jesus H. Sherdog]

Lol.

I gotta bail on this. I've already derailed a thread do badly today that it had to be locked. Can't do another one.

Derailing this thread is doing us all a favor tbh

 

[mixcontactsport]

Derailing this thread is doing us all a favor tbh

voodoo_child906-The answer is because humans are tribal, we see differences, it's built in our evolutionary biology. Asian customs, language and phenotype are very different and unlike the African Americans who were forced to take on western names, language and culture; Asians have managed to keep a lot of theirs throughout the generations. The existence of huge powers across the Pacific also hinders acceptance for Asian Americans as there is a strong foreign culture that they can be associated to. Once again African Americans don't have that as their culture was ripped from them when they were enslaved and they can't culturally be associated with an existing power in West Africa.

There's much more I'm sure but that's my observation at a high level.
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This is the truth, and you know it. Most of you here have your heads in the sand and you guys choose to keep it that way. Go to sleep A.C.

 

[Devout Pessimist]

The insult "Kowtowing Uncle Chang" sounds quite racist. What is wrong with trying to assimilate into the host country that accommodated you?

 

[Bald1]

Been thinking about this and there really does seem to be a massive disconnect between what Asians actually think about their host nation, in this case America. And what Americans think Asians should be thinking of their host nation.

To break it down, I think white americans don't like the idea of asians speaking about racism because: firstly they hear it from everyone else and are sick of being labelled racist, secondly in their subconsious " If even this successful group is complaining, this model minority group, then what does that really say about us?"

Its all about 'knowing your role', or staying in your lane: "No, no silly asians, your role is to be model minority type, not complaining type, we already have enough of those."

With liberals and other minority groups like blacks, and hispanics, etc. They are also adverse to the thought of asians speaking on racism, as they are perceived to be of higher status to right wingers, more successfull and perceived to be more assimilated or even allied with whites.

In the asian perspective, historically they do have a slight mistrust of their host nation. They do not trust the Police or expect protection from them, and also they are wary of the justice system. They also don't like media that much, or trust whats coming from the mainstrean news. Historically there is some good reasons for their apprehensions.

- LA Riots, asian communities were ravaged. Did not receive an ounce of protection from the Police who mostly positioned themselves in upper class white areas that weren't even being attacked.

- Murder of Vincent Chin, mistaken for a japanese national, 2 men who lost their jobs and blamed the japanese auto industry brutally murdered this vietnamese man, both killers fully equitted.

- Pacific coast race riots, considered perhaps the largest race riots in american history, ranging from vancouver to los angeles. White, black and hispanics attacked any asians on sight, lasted months, several killed.

Largest mass lynching in US history: Perpetrated against asian americans.

Largest race riots in US history: Perpetrated against asian americans.

So yeah, things did happen. Just that most people ignore this part of history. Asians on a subsconcious level know that even though things are ok for now, if something goes wrong, they can be ganged up on in seconds from all the other groups at the same time, just like the Pacific race riots. And like the LA riots, the police won't be there to protect them. They have every right to be distrustful of their 'host' nation in this case.

Good post with one glaring exception.

You keep calling your home the "host nation" and wonder why people see you as other while you think of yourself as a guest only. There's a disconnect there.

 

[Higus]

If I were Asian I’d buy a set of truck nutz and a cowboy hat and do my best to pass for a real American. Wouldn’t want the howling mob to confuse me with one of them Chinese virus super spreaders.

Reminds me of a joke:

Two middle eastern men, Amir and Omar, immigrate to the US. They decide to have a friendly competition to meet up in a year and see who can become the most "American".
A year goes by and they meet up. Amir speaks up first, "I think I got this one, friend. Since we last met, I have changed my name to 'Bill Smith', I bought a big ass red-white-and-blue pickup truck, I own and operate a chain of gun stores in the area, and I got married to my wife Patricia, who can trace her family ancestry to the Mayflower. We're having a baby in a few months. What have you been up to?"
Omar says, "shut the fuck up, towel-head".

 

[dissectingaorticaneurysm]

Yang is even dumber than I suspected.

Scolded by Orb Mommy.

 

[KOFalconPunch]

The human race is one race scientifically.

Yet we are not all descendants of Neanderthals.

 

[Islam Imamate]

I'm not saying we share the same history, I"m saying the West generally likes to keep Mongoloids out. If Asians are the most privileged group in West, why are most if not all are still perceived by society as Foreigners/Outsiders no matter how long they've been in the West?

I'm not saying they are the exact same, but they are closer to Mongoloid than say Caucasoid and Negroid.

The tragic history of the Natives has nothing to do with those racial categorizations though.

 

[Islam Imamate]

Yang is even dumber than I suspected.

Scolded by Orb Mommy.

To be fair to Uncle Chan I don't think he necessarily agrees with that idea, just citing what a "veteran friend" said as an opportunity to engage in veteran worship which is important for the political class in America.

The insult "Kowtowing Uncle Chang" sounds quite racist. What is wrong with trying to assimilate into the host country that accommodated you?

I think the issue people have with what he said is that he's basically saying to Asian Americans if they want to decrease their chances of being attacked for their race they need to perform overt displays of patriotism and IMO that is kinda messed up. Like I said earlier I could understand this advice in the 40s when we were just a few years from Japanese interment camps but America in 2020 should be the kind of country where the onus is put on the violent racists and not their victims.

Uncle Chan's heart is in the right place but he did not make a convincing argument here.

 

[Devout Pessimist]

America in 2020 should be the kind of country where the onus is put on the violent racists and not their victims.

Truth!