Analyzing Khabib's overrated resume.

[CombatSports55]

Analyzing Khabib's overrated resume

The first 16 fights of Khabib's career before the UFC are against nobodies. And they were only 2 round amateur fights.

Now we get to the UFC.

Kamal Shalorus - mid win. The guy just lost to Jim Miller by tko

Gleison Tibau - Most people think Khabib lost this fight.

Thiago Tavares - mid win. Tarares had been ko'd 3 times by mid carders

Abel Trujillo - very mid decision win. Khabib also missed weight.

Pat Healy - very mid decision win. Healy already had 16 loses on his record.

Rafael dos Anjos - won by decision. The 1st great name in Khabib's entire career. Took 22 fights to finally get here.

Darrell Horcher - tko over a mid level guy. Horcher has a 14-7 record.

Michael Johnson - Kimura win over Johnson. Decent win. But Johnson had lost to Nate Diaz & Dariush pretty recently prior.

Edson Barboza - decent decision win for it's time but mid level win for today's LW standards.

Al Iaquinta - mid decision win for the title where people even gave Al Iaquinta mild praising.

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Now we get to the last 3 fights of Khabib's career and his title defenses

Conor McGregor - Best win of Khabib's career. But it should be noted McGregor hadn't fought MMA in 2 years.
An entire year passes...
Dustin Poirier - Great sub win
An entire year passes...
Justin Gaethje - Great sub win

So out of Khabib's entire 29 fight career, only 4 great names.
Rafael dos Anjos, Conor McGregor, Dustin Poirier and Justin Gaethje.
And most people thought he lost to Gleison Tibau.
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Now compare this to Merab's last 7 wins...
José Aldo
Petr Yan
Henry Cejudo
Sean O'Malley
Umar Nurmagomedov
Sean O'Malley
Cory Sandhagen

Compare this to Islam's last 5 wins
Charles Oliveira by sub (better then all of Khabib's wins)
Alexander Volkanovski
Alexander Volkanovski by tko (better then all of Khabib's wins)
Dustin Poirier by sub
Renato Moicano by easy sub
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More context in my next post.

 

[CombatSports55]

Now let me preface by saying this.

I think Khabib is one of the most talented and hardworking elite level grapplers we've ever seen step foot in UFC.

HOWEVER, we don't rate people All Time based on potential. We look resume and REALITY.

You simply can not put Khabib higher all time then for example, Islam when Khabib only as 4 great wins to his name.

How dominate his "stats" look is irrelevant. Especially when fighting mostly cans (which isn't his fault)

If Khabib hypothetically would maul Islam in a fight, it's still absolutely irrelevant because it never happen within UFC competition with a referee officiating.

If there was hypothetical person on the planet who could ko the entire UFC roster but never competed in the UFC, you don't call him an all time UFC fighter when he never even fought in the UFC.

So when people call Khabib the "GOAT" when his resume (while great) is no where close to other champions, its absolutely overrating his placement as an All Timer.

 

[Koala]

The first 16 fights of Khabibs career before the UFC are against nobodies. And they were only 2 round amateur fights.

Ali Bagov and Eldar Eldarov could strangle to death most of the fighters you listed if they fancy to

 

[Stoic1]

I came into this thread to be angry at another hater. I find myself grudgingly uncomfortable about what you said and am leaving the thread to deal with my feelings.

 

[mooseman17]

His resume isn’t really deep, it’s more his dominance during fights. Definitely a what if career.

 

[Get To Da Choppa]

Analyzing Khabib's overrated resume

The first 16 fights of Khabib's career before the UFC are against nobodies. And they were only 2 round amateur fights.

Now we get to the UFC.

Kamal Shalorus - mid win. The guy just lost to Jim Miller by tko

Gleison Tibau - Most people think Khabib lost this fight.

Thiago Tavares - mid win. Tarares had been ko'd 3 times by mid carders

Abel Trujillo - very mid decision win. Khabib also missed weight.

Pat Healy - very mid decision win. Healy already had 16 loses on his record.

Rafael dos Anjos - won by decision. The 1st great name in Khabib's entire career. Took 22 fights to finally get here.

Darrell Horcher - tko over a mid level guy. Horcher has a 14-7 record.

Michael Johnson - Kimura win over Johnson. Decent win. But Johnson had lost to Nate Diaz & Dariush pretty recently prior.

Edson Barboza - decent decision win for it's time but mid level win for today's LW standards.

Al Iaquinta - mid decision win for the title where people even gave Al Iaquinta mild praising.

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Now we get to the last 3 fights of Khabib's career and his title defenses

Conor McGregor - Best win of Khabib's career. But it should be noted McGregor hadn't fought MMA in 2 years.
An entire year passes...
Dustin Poirier - Great sub win
An entire year passes...
Justin Gaethje - Great sub win

So out of Khabib's entire 29 fight career, only 4 great names.
Rafael dos Anjos, Conor McGregor, Dustin Poirier and Justin Gaethje.
And most people thought he lost to Gleison Tibau.
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Now compare this to Merab's last 7 wins...
José Aldo
Petr Yan
Henry Cejudo
Sean O'Malley
Umar Nurmagomedov
Sean O'Malley
Cory Sandhagen

Compare this to Islam's last 5 wins
Charles Oliveira by sub (better then all of Khabib's wins)
Alexander Volkanovski
Alexander Volkanovski by tko (better then all of Khabib's wins)
Dustin Poirier by sub
Renato Moicano by easy sub
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More context in my next post.

Khabib meme aside, I do agree with you. Khabib's mystic comes from that 0 loss, and that he retired at the very top

 

[andgonsil]

His resume isn’t really deep, it’s more his dominance during fights. Definitely a what if career.

He didn't dominate Tibau

 

[TheTickG]

"no one was ever any good."
- Kenny Florian

 

[Ibm]

He would have probably had more certainty in his resume if he fought more guys. His grappling is amazing but his standup was always suspect. Dude was a hard worker, clean lifestyle etc. much respect.

 

[bng]

Friend of Ali 9/11 Aziz - low win, there are lots of Ali managed fighters

Crypto promotion - mid win, there are many fighters to promote crypto but few make really good money from it

asking Allah to behead president of France - low win, why would you ask your God to do what a regular president's wife can do

threaten police when dagi bro runs police over - mid win, oligarchs do that too in Russia

tax evasion - huge win, only billionaires could do that

being a "role model", so sherdog mods put you on profile pic and ban for mentioning threats to president of France cuz its "Ali's posted" - biggest win of his career, very few people can get to sherdog mod picture profile and get their protection

"In the man there are 2 wolves: 1 wants to kill president of France, another one wants to respect"

 

[ultra321]

what a dumb post....

 

[ricc505]

You spend a lot of time breaking it down in an attempt to be fair, when it isn't fair to compare fighters from different weights, eras, orgs, sports and disciplines. If you want to be fair just make a post that says "I didn't like khabib" it's quicker and easier

 

[Southpoor97]

I agree. The problem with Khabib Stan’s is they simply assume wins for him. But that’s not how you build legacy in MMA.

Upsets happen. We will never now if khabib would have won his next 5 or lost his next two.

Similarly to assuming khabib would have beat the next in line. There is no point discussing, he didn’t do enough to be in any goat chats for his weight class

 

[BoomStronk]

Now let me preface by saying this.

I think Khabib is one of the most talented and hardworking elite level grapplers we've ever seen step foot in UFC.

HOWEVER, we don't rate people All Time based on potential. We look resume and REALITY.

You simply can not put Khabib higher all time then for example, Islam when Khabib only as 4 great wins to his name.

How dominate his "stats" look is irrelevant. Especially when fighting mostly cans (which isn't his fault)

If Khabib hypothetically would maul Islam in a fight, it's still absolutely irrelevant because it never happen within UFC competition with a referee officiating.

If there was hypothetical person on the planet who could ko the entire UFC roster but never competed in the UFC, you don't call him an all time UFC fighter when he never even fought in the UFC.

So when people call Khabib the "GOAT" when his resume (while great) is no where close to other champions, its absolutely overrating his placement as an All Timer.

Yup, I feel ya.

Khabib is probably the #1 all time on the might-have-been-great list

On the actual great list, hes not so high. 4 top wins, even as impressive as they were, do not a legendary career make

 

[RockyLockridge]

I think you're supposed to do an analysis, then determine it's overrated.

 

[drphil]

"no one was ever any good."
- Kenny Florian

This.
OP is right, everyone sucks and theres no reason to be a fan of this sport
-Kenny florian?

 

[methrogenn]

Sometimes I feel like Conor pays people to post about how shit Khabib is, I swear I've seen a post about Khabib being overrated every single week on Twitter, Reddit & Sherdog since Khabib retired like 5 years back.

FBI should investigate this along with the betting scandal

 

[Strijfy]

Interesting that there was a thread just recently on fighters who lived rent free in fans heads.
Amazingly some were saying that Khabib wasnt one of those fighters.LOL
And yet here we are with yet another ad nauseum ,shit dribbling fest denigrating Khabib by a yet another complete dumbarse.

 

[Snake_bite]

Now compare this to Merab's last 7 wins...
José Aldo (washed beyond belief at a lower weight, literal mannequin)
Petr Yan (injured)
Henry Cejudo (125er, retired for two years until a fight ago, washed)
Sean O'Malley (injured)
Umar Nurmagomedov (him talking about his unhealed hand injury on ESPN made Merab accept the fight, wins without emotes and scoring of ineffective grappling)
Sean O'Malley (mid+nepotism)
Cory Sandhagen (mid)

 

[Filter909]

Khabib fan here. Who cares about his fights before the UFC? What would change in his legacy if he had lost to a bum 15 years ago in Russia? Nothing. We'd just be saying he was a green fighter then who got so much better over the years in the UFC and with AKA, etc. He did what he was supposed to, win. Fans write off the losses of early fights for other fighters, but since Khabib didn't lose, it has to somehow be turned into a negative?

Khabib was the underdog once in his UFC career, against the roid rager, G. Tibau. By his retirement, there wasn't a single fighter in the top 10 that we thought could match Khabib. His being that above his competition says more about him and less about his division. And when they dropped out of his fights, another knock on Khabib would be the replacement bums... Seriously? I'd drop out too.

Dana let Conor leapfrog the division for an instant title shot, so Khabib had to implore Dana for a shot while simultaneously turning Michael Johnson into a bodybag. You can't make that up. Khabib finally immortalized himself against Conor, and showed mercy vs Justin and Dustin. Oh, but he's ducking Charles! Then Islam taps him out. Give me a break. No one was going to beat him. That's literally the main contributing factor of a GOAT.