An amateur fighter's training schedule

[HighestHand]

I do feel that treadmills are easier because I cleared 3 miles in 19 minutes on the treadmill and ONLY on the treadmill. Once i start running outside, i look like a dying fish. It took me 40 minutes to run a 3.5 mile course which didn't really even make sense to me.

At that time I just attributed it to the summer heat and that running outside is damn much harder since you have to propel yourself forward. I'm actually surprised that you guys think treadmills are valid. I had half the expectation that everyone would bash treadmills and tell me to run outside like a real athlete.

 

[peanut66]

run outside
tread mills are for hippies

come where i live and you can run through 2 feet of snow , that will get your heart rate up

 

[Kiwi Tricker]

Just to put my 2 cents in, fuck running for distance on treadmills. I like sprints on them because it's easy to track how long your intervals are, but for anything longer than 10-15 minutes I need to run outside.

 

[HighestHand]

I'm curious if anyone ever does any private classes too. I'm actually contemplating it.

I ask my instructor if I need anything to work on and he says I'm doing everything really well, just that my cardio isn't as good and I just need more experience, otherwise a bit of fine tuning to my technique would be nice.

I wonder if having a private class would explain the little kinks in how Muay Thai works for me.

 

[nomilkforsanta]

I'm curious if anyone ever does any private classes too. I'm actually contemplating it.

I ask my instructor if I need anything to work on and he says I'm doing everything really well, just that my cardio isn't as good and I just need more experience, otherwise a bit of fine tuning to my technique would be nice.

I wonder if having a private class would explain the little kinks in how Muay Thai works for me.

Privates with a good coach/pad holder are a must.

I hold for my girlfriend during classes (for both halves), and before or after class depending if there are people to spar or not. I already played my hand at this game and lost, so I enjoy helping her, so I have been just holding for a year now. I also hold for whoever asks me before/after class.

 

[HighestHand]

Privates with a good coach/pad holder are a must.

I hold for my girlfriend during classes (for both halves), and before or after class depending if there are people to spar or not. I already played my hand at this game and lost, so I enjoy helping her, so I have been just holding for a year now. I also hold for whoever asks me before/after class.

that's cool of you but the privates here are 110 dollars for a 1 on 1 lesson with my instructor. IF i do a 1 on 2 lesson, that would come out to be 70 dollars per person. Worth it?

 

[nomilkforsanta]

that's cool of you but the privates here are 110 dollars for a 1 on 1 lesson with my instructor. IF i do a 1 on 2 lesson, that would come out to be 70 dollars per person. Worth it?

It depends on your goal, if you want to go pro...yes. Fighting is a big sacrifice in time and money, most up and coming fighters drive beat up hondas and wear track pants and sandals for a reason.

Does your gym have a fight team? If so, get your cardio up and join, you should get free privates.

 

[Kiwi Tricker]

It depends on your goal, if you want to go pro...yes. Fighting is a big sacrifice in time and money, most up and coming fighters drive beat up hondas and wear track pants and sandals for a reason.

Does your gym have a fight team? If so, get your cardio up and join, you should get free privates.

Pretty much. If your coach is worth the money to you, go for it. I used to drive 2 hours on a Saturday, pay $70 for a private one-hour session, and drive 2 hours back again to do PT with my old trainer. I'm fortunate that at my current gym that we are a fight gym, not a business; I get one on one work with my trainer almost every session, which is extremely important preparing me to start fighting with elbows.

If you fight, PT is a great help. If not, and all he wants you to improve for the moment is cardio, then just take his advice. Most coaches will ask you if you'd like to come do one-on-one work with them when they want you to start stepping it up and begin prepping for fights.

 

[HighestHand]

It depends on your goal, if you want to go pro...yes. Fighting is a big sacrifice in time and money, most up and coming fighters drive beat up hondas and wear track pants and sandals for a reason.

Does your gym have a fight team? If so, get your cardio up and join, you should get free privates.

Yes it actually does, and it's one of the more well known schools in NYC. I actually inquired about private classes to some ammy fighters and they said that the head instructor would give us a couple of free lessons just to take care of us! hehe i feel bad for the suckers that have to pay 110 now.

 

[HighestHand]

Pretty much. If your coach is worth the money to you, go for it. I used to drive 2 hours on a Saturday, pay $70 for a private one-hour session, and drive 2 hours back again to do PT with my old trainer. I'm fortunate that at my current gym that we are a fight gym, not a business; I get one on one work with my trainer almost every session, which is extremely important preparing me to start fighting with elbows.

If you fight, PT is a great help. If not, and all he wants you to improve for the moment is cardio, then just take his advice. Most coaches will ask you if you'd like to come do one-on-one work with them when they want you to start stepping it up and begin prepping for fights.

Okay that's good advice, I'm just starting to maintain my current low pace before summer so I can have a good base.

 

[KennisTheMenace**]

Honestly, I go training about 3x a week and every time I go I'm huffing and puffing. I feel as if my cardio isn't enough and I myself want to run. And throwing punches take a lot less energy than throwing kicks. I can spar moderately hard for like 3 rounds and I'm gassed.

I haven't started running yet because school takes up most of my time atm and so I am only allowed to do 15 minutes of jump rope before class. Otherwise I feel too damn tired for anything any other time.

Just be patient with yourself and keep showing up and you'll go more rounds comfortably and have a lot more fun. Try utilizing 30minute power naps to boost energy so that you can get out their for the runs you would like to do.

 

[TheeFaulted]

aerobic training is extremely important. i personally run intervall in a hill and sprint 1-2 times per week if i am in shape.

as far as im concerned oxygen delivery is almost always the problem. all these new age training methods with almost no long distance training and i alway see the atheletes struggling past round one because they havnt hit their aerobic training.

Exactly, some people just have no idea what conditioning actually looks like, and what the desired results actually are.

Aerobic work like LSD/LISS runs are for eccentric cardiac hypertrophy; that is thickening the muscle in the left ventricle so the heart can pump out more blood with each beat and thus it doesn't have to work as hard to transfer oxygen through blood. This training is about being able to keep your heart working at a lower heart rate.

High intensity training is about training your heart to thicken its walls and muscle fibers. This allows your heart to work at a higher heart rate for a longer time.


They are both effective. They are both needed. It is not one vs the other.

Only doing HIIT and without a solid Cardio base is like trying to strap a supercharger on a 250ci engine with stock parts.

 

[KennisTheMenace**]

Only doing HIIT and without a solid Cardio base is like trying to strap a supercharger on a 250ci engine with stock parts.

you lost me.

 

[TheeFaulted]

you lost me.

Perhaps nitrous would have been a better example. Adding a nitrous system to a car with a very small output may make the car slightly faster for a shorter time. Dropping in a bigger engine with more stroke volume would make much more sense. Adding the nitrous would be the icing in the cake.

Likewise, increasing stroke output by LSD training is a great way to become a better athlete. HIIT work after a decent cardio base would be like nitrous. It will help you when the RPMs/BPM are high and you can't squeeze anything more out of your engine/heart. But HIIT without a decent cardio base is pointless, like nitrous on a little engine.

 

[KennisTheMenace**]

Perhaps nitrous would have been a better example. Adding a nitrous system to a car with a very small output may make the car slightly faster for a shorter time. Dropping in a bigger engine with more stroke volume would make much more sense. Adding the nitrous would be the icing in the cake.

Likewise, increasing stroke output by LSD training is a great way to become a better athlete. HIIT work after a decent cardio base would be like nitrous. It will help you when the RPMs/BPM are high and you can't squeeze anything more out of your engine/heart. But HIIT without a decent cardio base is pointless, like nitrous on a little engine.

HIIT = sprinting

and

LSD = long distance running?

 

[TheeFaulted]

HIIT = sprinting

and

LSD = long distance running?

HIIT= high intensity interval training. This can include sprints, circuits, etc

LSD= long slow distance. Sometimes also referred to as LISS or low intensity steady state training. This can be jogging, cycling, etc for an extended period, usually at least 45 minutes, where you are staying at about 65-75% or your max heart rate.

 

[Babba]

listen to theefaulted, he has teh capacity to articulate his thoughts and its easily digestable, very nice. what hes saying is true.

 

[HighestHand]

I'm not very good with the acronyms. In fact I know none for sports.

High intensity interval training is what? Sprinting?

And Low intensity steady state is like running a marathon but not that much I'm assuming?

 

[TheeFaulted]

I explained all that 2 posts up.

 

[TheeFaulted]

Here's an article from Joel Jamison that explains it much better than I can.
http://www.8weeksout.com/2010/11/06/putting-an-end-to-the-lsd-vs-hiit-debate/