Economy American billionaires got $434 billion richer during the pandemic

Of course they did!! Did you not see my post in the other thread. The choice of response to the pandemic demanded economic relief, and that economic relief was a redistribution of wealth from the wealthy and middle class to the poor. The poor immediately, of their own free will, quite stupidly and gleefully handed this right back to the wealthy.

It amounted to a yo-yo upward redistribution of wealth. That's all the government is good for. Tax more, or God help you, pass catastrophic socialist "progressive" policies like UBI, which is effectively what this has been a test run for, and you'll simply exacerbate this effect in perpetuity.

Many Americans Are Getting More Money From Unemployment Than They Were From Their Jobs
The United States is not known for its generosity to the unemployed. But the coronavirus crisis has transformed our system for compensating jobless workers. As tens of millions of workers suddenly became unemployed, Congress passed an expansive relief package with an unprecedented $600-per-week supplement for jobless workers. The goal was to replace their wages so they could survive the economic lockdown.

As a result, though, many people may now be eligible for substantially more money while unemployed than they made while they were working. A new analysis by Peter Ganong, Pascal Noel and Joseph Vavra, economists at the University of Chicago, uses government data from 2019 to estimate that 68 percent of unemployed workers who can receive benefits are eligible for payments that are greater than their lost earnings. They also found that the estimated median replacement rate — the share of a worker’s original weekly salary that is being replaced by unemployment benefits — is 134 percent, or more than one-third above their original wage. A substantial minority of those workers, particularly in low-wage professions like food service and janitorial work, may end up receiving more than 150 percent of their previous weekly salary.

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The research underscores one of the central — and most politically explosive — tensions of our economic crisis: What’s the best way for our battered unemployment insurance system to keep jobless workers afloat during a historic downturn with no end in sight?

The idea behind a $600 payment was simple: In 2019, the national average unemployment payment was $370 per week and the national average salary for unemployment recipients was $970 per week.3 The additional $600 per week is meant to make up the difference, providing enough money on a weekly basis to fully replace the average unemployment recipient’s salary. Other analyses of estimated average wages and unemployment benefits have already shown, though, that replacement rates likely vary quite a bit by state.

But looking at average wages doesn’t tell the whole story, because the country’s significant income inequality means that more workers fall into lower-wage categories. To address that problem, the new analysis simulates benefits for the median — rather than the mean — unemployment-eligible worker, drawing on Census Bureau labor supply data.

The analysis illustrates how something that seems like a simple proposition — replacing jobless workers’ salaries while a public health threat persists — is not something our unemployment insurance system was built to do quickly or easily. Most of the experts I spoke with agreed that back in March, when the unemployment insurance expansion passed, a flat payment was the most feasible solution. Unemployment benefits are always inconsistent across states, though, since each state sets its own rates. And now, those inequalities are even more pronounced. The median unemployment-eligible worker in Massachusetts is eligible for an estimated 125 percent of her former salary, compared to 166 percent in Mississippi.

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The researchers uncovered other kinds of inequality, too. In some professions, like janitorial work, people who are employed by essential businesses are continuing to show up to their jobs under hazardous conditions. But in doing so, they may be eligible for less money than janitors who have been laid off or furloughed by a nonessential business. In an ideal world, Ganong said, the people who have kept working at hospitals or grocery stores would be receiving some kind of hazard pay. “But that’s generally not the reality, which means there’s a weakness in the current system,” he said. “We’re giving more money to certain workers to stay home than to other workers who are putting themselves at risk by going to work.”

Several economists and unemployment insurance experts reviewed a draft of the analysis at FiveThirtyEight’s request. Many were surprised by the number of workers estimated to be eligible for unemployment benefits that exceeded their original wages...

Americans use their $1,200 stimulus checks to splurge at Walmart, Target and Best Buy — here’s what they’re buying
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Marketwatch said:
While many Americans have used their stimulus checks to cover basic needs such as groceries, mortgage or rent, there’s evidence people are also spending the money on non-essentials including electronics, clothes and toys, according to major retailers.

“Call it relief spending, as it was heavily influenced by stimulus dollars, leading to sales increases in categories such as apparel, televisions, video games, sporting goods and toys,” Walmart WMT, -0.36% CEO Doug McMillon said during the company’s earnings call Tuesday.

Target TGT, -0.79% and Best Buy Co. BBY, -4.36% also saw increased consumer demand for discretionary goods in mid-April as the stimulus payments from the $2.2-trillion CARES Act flowed into Americans’ bank accounts, the companies’ CEOs said this week. Apple AAPL, -0.74% saw an uptick in demand for its products “across the board,” CEO Tim Cook said April 30.

At Walmart and Target, shoppers bought more TVs, electronics, gaming equipment and apparel. Walmart also saw more demand for adult-sized bikes.

Before the checks were issued on April 15, there was ‘not as much demand’ for discretionary goods at Walmart, said spokesman Randy Hargrove.

At Best Buy, customers used their stimulus checks to buy computing and gaming equipment, Corie Barry, the company’s CEO, said on it Thursday earnings call....

The different phases of the pandemic have shaped shoppers’ choices. As stay-at-home orders were enacted across the country, “parents became teachers,” McMillon said on Walmart’s earnings call. “Adult bicycles started selling out, as parents started to join the kids. An overlapping trend then started emerging related to DIY and home-related activities.”

Target Corp. also experienced “a rapid increase in traffic and sales” for discretionary goods driven by the distribution of stimulus checks, CEO Brian Cornell said on the company’s Wednesday earnings call. “We certainly saw an uptick as we reported starting on April 15, as those checks arrived across America,” Cornell said on the company’s call.

Customers, he said, are “still seeing the benefits of the stimulus check.” People are shopping across all categories including apparel, which has been especially hard hit by the coronavirus-driven economic downturn.

iPhone maker Apple also saw sales increase after stimulus payments went out, Cook said on the company’s April 30 earnings call. “A part of it is due to just our new products,” Cook said. But another part of it is also “due to the stimulus programs taking effect in April.” (Apple did not respond to MarketWatch’s request for a further comment.)
The poor stay poor, and yet they blame it on taxes & corporations.

SMH.
 
You didnt even read your own article. It's saying the exact same thing as what @SBJJ has been telling you.


"The world’s richest person is getting richer, even in a pandemic, and perhaps because of it.

With consumers stuck at home, they’re relying on Jeff Bezos’s Amazon.com Inc. more than ever. The retailer’s stock climbed 5.3 per cent to a record Tuesday, lifting the founder’s net worth to US$138.5 billion."

Even with it all happening right in front of him he will either A. Not see it......or B. Refuse to see it because he can not admit he is wrong
 
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Not so fast. Another fake study designed to fool the statistically illiterate masses with assistance from CNBC and Forbes, no surprise. They picked Mar 18 when most shutdowns happened and the market was close to its low and not Feb 19, the market peak. So they cherry picked a date to show their wealth increased, when in fact it decreased like everyone else's.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/n...andemic-quite-the-opposite-in-fact-2020-05-22
 
Lol. That is 100% why the 2 men cited are richer. It is almost as if you are unable to see what is right in front of you.

Just wait till Bezos starts his real shopping spree. First up is AMC and JCP....but much more to come.

Just wait till he really starts the buying spree. And this shutdown will give him the perfect opportunity to really start it.

This shutdown is and will cause the greatest redistribution of wealth in the history of mankind.

We(a few of us) warned you from the very beginning but you were already at full media manipulation. Like fucking Zombies
lying again? tsk tsk...
 
Some of us called this from the very beginning and for some reason it really rustled the Not My Granny bros

No you didn’t, stop trying to bend the truth. If I remember correctly, the lockdowns were for the government seize more power.
 
The House dems approved those cuts.

So let's make sure we put the blame on all of them. The bi-partisan cares act sold your grandchildren's future to corporations and they were all responsible.

Oh you mean when the GOP and every right wing poster on this forum blamed the democrats for making people wait for their stimulus checks? The GOP who blamed the democrats for holding out are now just as responsible this passed? The Republicans took forever to put together the CARES act which btw had provisions in it for the super rich and then steamroller it through and tried blaming the democrats for slowing it down.

What about the 2016 tax cut which benefited the wealthy and corporations? The same tax cut that allowed corps to bring home overseas money tax free which then went to share holders and company executives and NOT the tax payers. Who’s responsibility for that? Solely the GOP.
 
No you didn’t, stop trying to bend the truth. If I remember correctly, the lockdowns were for the government seize more power.

Nope, I never said that. Not once

You have me confused with another poster or are just being untruthful
 
The rich will benefit enormously from this shutdown. They will buy up all the dead assets. Thus gaining an even stronger chokehold on the power.

You are about to witness wealth disparity not seen in at least a century.

@Ophydian

This was just 1. Close to 2 months ago
 
The reason they got mo money is because people are using their products / services a whole lot more due to the pandemic.
Not some illuminati conspiracy or whatever bullshit Shertards are expounding atm.
For Chrissakes, Trump hates Bezos more than vegetables for breakfast and he’s got no love lost for Gates either.

Buffet is actually down some 20 billion, for the year. Gates 6 billion. This article is doing some funky maths by its own admission.
Why is the article highlighting this shit instead of the actual amount a majority of billionaires have lost ? Because outrage porn. That’s why.

Every deviation from the norm causes rapid jumps in someone’s wealth. Or rapid falls. Is normal. Sometimes the pigeon, sometimes the statue.
 
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I don’t get the people who can’t differentiate the net worth of someone not actually being their cash flow increase

Amazon is making more money as even more people shop online

Facebook makes more money with ads as people browse social media more

Those company’s values go up so Bezos and Zuck’s net worth go up but it’s not like they actually get richer until they increase their salary and/or hand themselves bigger bonuses. Which undoubtedly they do, but not to the 34/25 billion scale game article implies.
 
I hope this was said somewhere in the first 5 pages (didn’t read lol) but I am SHOCKED a persons net worth would go up in the last two months. Especially a wealthy person who owns a lot of stock. I have no idea how that could happen.

Wait a second! The DOW is up 31% since mid March. Sounds like some well spun fake news to make it seem like the super rich are more well off now than they were pre pandemic.
 
Oh you mean when the GOP and every right wing poster on this forum blamed the democrats for making people wait for their stimulus checks? The GOP who blamed the democrats for holding out are now just as responsible this passed? The Republicans took forever to put together the CARES act which btw had provisions in it for the super rich and then steamroller it through and tried blaming the democrats for slowing it down.

What about the 2016 tax cut which benefited the wealthy and corporations? The same tax cut that allowed corps to bring home overseas money tax free which then went to share holders and company executives and NOT the tax payers. Who’s responsibility for that? Solely the GOP.
Actually Pelosi wanted to means test the stimulus checks. The CARES act was a bi-partisan measure. Pelosi, McConnell and other wrote it.

Those are certainly Trump's tax cuts for the wealthy, but the House Dems voted for it. Speaking of tax cuts, it was Pelosi's idea to cut taxes in the CARES bill. 43,000 millionaires will receive an average of 1.2 million tax break.

Pelosi and Schumer are not your friends. Pelosi doesn't want a UBI or even m4a during a pandemic. She would rather make healthcare "affordable" which is code for giving insurance companies more money.

But the blame everywhere. They all sold you out.



 
Of course they did!! Did you not see my post in the other thread. The choice of response to the pandemic demanded economic relief, and that economic relief was a redistribution of wealth from the wealthy and middle class to the poor. The poor immediately, of their own free will, quite stupidly and gleefully handed this right back to the wealthy.

It amounted to a yo-yo upward redistribution of wealth. That's all the government is good for. Tax more, or God help you, pass catastrophic socialist "progressive" policies like UBI, which is effectively what this has been a test run for, and you'll simply exacerbate this effect in perpetuity.

Many Americans Are Getting More Money From Unemployment Than They Were From Their Jobs


Americans use their $1,200 stimulus checks to splurge at Walmart, Target and Best Buy — here’s what they’re buying
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The poor stay poor, and yet they blame it on taxes & corporations.

SMH.

The marketwatch source states from the first sentence many Americans spent it on essential goods. Then it says some folks spent money on electronics mostly at a few major retailers which follows logic since they were pretty much the only ones open throughout the crisis who had stock on hand and electronics are what people use when stuck at home.

What evidence do you have these customers purchasing electronics at target are poor? I got unemployment for a few weeks before work transitioned to from home. I bought a switch at target and some other electronics to kill time. My girlfriend bought a new laptop with her stimulus because her work is not effected and just qualified. I'd say most of my co-workers bought some electronics from places like this when the shutdown started to kill time while employers set up systems to start working from home and that's when we were receiving those checks. None of them are in poverty. Yet we all qualify in these stats. The only takeaways from your post seem to be many spent their stimulus well and many people purchase electronics when stuck indoors and they tend to buy these during the start of shutdowns from the few stores that are open.
 
Yes, that was a terrible idea. Trump has had 3 years to remedy the problems he says he's on. It's on him, the stockpile being ramshackle as fuck in 2020, period.

You said "Lefties wanted a competent leader that wouldn't shelve key medical professionals and throw away key aspects of our pandemic readiness for years before the virus hit, then spending months sitting on their asses."

Lefties got the leader they wanted in Obama for 8 years. Obama didn't do what you claim a President lefties wanted would do.
 
You said "Lefties wanted a competent leader that wouldn't shelve key medical professionals and throw away key aspects of our pandemic readiness for years before the virus hit, then spending months sitting on their asses."

Lefties got the leader they wanted in Obama for 8 years. Obama didn't do what you claim a President lefties wanted would do.

Yeah, he didn't, and that's for damn sure. But what he did do was a competent response to possible pandemics, and didn't shelve any and all info they got from the Bush admin.

This is about the pandemic, and it's absurd to even argue that another administration could perform this crappily.
 
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