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AMD Hawaii 390X Has Serious GPU Power!

Its a card that doesn't have a place on the market.

Cards half its price can already max every game at 1080p.
Playing newer games at 4k pretty much requires 6gb of ram.

So what do you use this card for?


Still, no one should buy NVidia just on principle, after the 970 downgrade, and drivers that downgrade their older cards, and deliberately gimping GameWorks on ATI cards.
 
Its a card that doesn't have a place on the market.

Cards half its price can already max every game at 1080p.
Playing newer games at 4k pretty much requires 6gb of ram.

So what do you use this card for?


Still, no one should buy NVidia just on principle, after the 970 downgrade, and drivers that downgrade their older cards, and deliberately gimping GameWorks on ATI cards.

1440p? Ultrawide? That is what I think they will push with the first 4GB card.
 
Its a card that doesn't have a place on the market.

Cards half its price can already max every game at 1080p.
Playing newer games at 4k pretty much requires 6gb of ram.

So what do you use this card for?


Still, no one should buy NVidia just on principle, after the 970 downgrade, and drivers that downgrade their older cards, and deliberately gimping GameWorks on ATI cards.

I think this article touches on why HBM memory may not require the same quantity of RAM as conventional GDDR5 cards under high res gaming.

http://wccftech.com/fiji-xt-limited-4gb-memory/

I admire AMD for trying something new (both with respect to their CPUs and Video Cards). They are truly in a David vs. Goliath situation - Intel's annual dividend pays out more than AMD's entire market cap.
 
I had good experiences with several generations of ati/amd cards and never had driver issues (9800pro, x800 xt, 5750) but my r9 280x while powerful as hell had artifacts right out of the box (as do nearly all of them) with no recourse, comment or possible fix... I will never buy another amd card.
 
I had good experiences with several generations of ati/amd cards and never had driver issues (9800pro, x800 xt, 5750) but my r9 280x while powerful as hell had artifacts right out of the box (as do nearly all of them) with no recourse, comment or possible fix... I will never buy another amd card.

Why no warranty?

Unless you modded it in some way, I thought most card makers had a 3 year (or in XFX's case, life time) replacement policy?

Sucks about the artifacting - I had heard about the 280x line being poorly built with a lot of RMAs. What happened to the days of the 9800pro - I swear, that card lasted me pretty much all through my undergrad.
 
Long rant incoming

This will easily be a skip-able GPU generation (unless your running something super old).

Most of the new game engines haven't kicked in (xboxone port of witcher 3 and a modified gta 2013 engine have been the highlights of this year, WHAT A JOKE), 4K/1440/1600p monitors have not come down in price, and the 28nm die is 3.5 years old (we haven't gotten a die shrink since late 2011). Not only that but the consoles are using midrange CPU's by 2008 standards and a midrange GPU by 2011/2012 standards (not that hard to run modern games well, especially since alot of games are still using old engines).

Most serious buyers will wait for the first die shrink in 4 years (aka the cards coming out in 2016). By that time there will be more monitors on the market, next gen engines will of actually kicked in , and performance of upper midrange single cards will actually be able to run these high resolution flawlessly.

For those who are running ancient cards the 300 series should offer a good value (if you perfer nvidia, the GTX 970 will most likely have to drop to $250-270 to stay competitive and the 980 will most likely rest in the $400-450 bracket in counter to both the 980 Ti and the 300 equivalent )
 
well if i go with this card, ill most likely get x2 if i don't ill just toss another 290x in either a 295x or a 290x 8GB
 
Why no warranty?

Unless you modded it in some way, I thought most card makers had a 3 year (or in XFX's case, life time) replacement policy?

Sucks about the artifacting - I had heard about the 280x line being poorly built with a lot of RMAs. What happened to the days of the 9800pro - I swear, that card lasted me pretty much all through my undergrad.

Well, two reasons. One I bought it new from someone on ebay (no receipt) and two several people online said the artifacts were due to a heat problem of the vram (as the cooler on some 280x models doesn't touch several of the modules) and the solution was to get some super low profile heat sinks, (but voids the warranty) I've done that AND downclocked the card and still get them occasionally... I've literally considered throwing my perfectly fine GTX560TI back in until I have the money to get a new Nvidia card.
 
Two unconfirmed source put the price of the very highest end of the 390x hbm with 4 gigs in the 600 dollar range. This is the top of the line model and also put the performance at around 8.5 teraflops single precision.


"Photo that shows the backplate of the card as well as the power connectors that are along the top edge. It’s tough to make out at first glance, but there appears to be two 8-pin PCIe power connectors.
http://www.legitreviews.com/another...o-card-image-leaks_164300#hLi8oMwAjHgv5q5P.99

Some people say it will use less then 300 watts of power others say it will use upwards of 375 watts of power when overclocked.


Biggest electronic billboard in New York.
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Why no warranty?

Unless you modded it in some way, I thought most card makers had a 3 year (or in XFX's case, life time) replacement policy?

Sucks about the artifacting - I had heard about the 280x line being poorly built with a lot of RMAs. What happened to the days of the 9800pro - I swear, that card lasted me pretty much all through my undergrad.

The 9800 was a great card.
 
Why no warranty?

Unless you modded it in some way, I thought most card makers had a 3 year (or in XFX's case, life time) replacement policy?

Sucks about the artifacting - I had heard about the 280x line being poorly built with a lot of RMAs. What happened to the days of the 9800pro - I swear, that card lasted me pretty much all through my undergrad.


Wasn't the 9800 pro really expensive though? Like $700 when it came out over 10 years ago? I can't really remember what they went for exactly. I just remember not being able to afford one. That would be like buying a Titan X now.


That's a pretty cool looking billboard.
 
Wasn't the 9800 pro really expensive though? Like $700 when it came out over 10 years ago? I can't really remember what they went for exactly. I just remember not being able to afford one. That would be like buying a Titan X now.



That's a pretty cool looking billboard.

I bought my 9800pro for like $300 back in 2003. I was like a kid in christmas so happy i could play games with everything maxed out.
 
I bought my 9800pro for like $300 back in 2003. I was like a kid in christmas so happy i could play games with everything maxed out.

Yeah, I think paid $399 Canadian (so at the time, probably about $300 US). For a broke university student, it was a lot of money, but oh man did I love that card. I remember playing Unreal Tournament 2004 for hours.
 
Wasn't the 9800 pro really expensive though? Like $700 when it came out over 10 years ago? I can't really remember what they went for exactly. I just remember not being able to afford one. That would be like buying a Titan X now.



That's a pretty cool looking billboard.

Yea that billboard is insane over 320 feet long.
 
Well, the 980 ti was unveiled today. NVIDIA bringing the thunder so AMD must deliver this time around.
 
Well, the 980 ti was unveiled today. NVIDIA bringing the thunder so AMD must deliver this time around.

lol no. it looks to be a little less powerful and the 390x was rumored to shit all over the titian x
 
lol no. it looks to be a little less powerful and the 390x was rumored to shit all over the titian x

The overclocks on the 980Ti are INSANE - up to 45% with boost clock.

It is matching/beating the 295x2 in alot of benches.

I will still wait and see what the 390x brings to the table, but for $650, the 980ti is looking tempting.
 
The overclocks on the 980Ti are INSANE - up to 45% with boost clock.

It is matching/beating the 295x2 in alot of benches.

I will still wait and see what the 390x brings to the table, but for $650, the 980ti is looking tempting.

People who bought titans for strictly gaming on suicide watch.
 
Long rant incoming

This will easily be a skip-able GPU generation (unless your running something super old).

Most of the new game engines haven't kicked in (xboxone port of witcher 3 and a modified gta 2013 engine have been the highlights of this year, WHAT A JOKE), 4K/1440/1600p monitors have not come down in price, and the 28nm die is 3.5 years old (we haven't gotten a die shrink since late 2011). Not only that but the consoles are using midrange CPU's by 2008 standards and a midrange GPU by 2011/2012 standards (not that hard to run modern games well, especially since alot of games are still using old engines).

Most serious buyers will wait for the first die shrink in 4 years (aka the cards coming out in 2016). By that time there will be more monitors on the market, next gen engines will of actually kicked in , and performance of upper midrange single cards will actually be able to run these high resolution flawlessly.

For those who are running ancient cards the 300 series should offer a good value (if you perfer nvidia, the GTX 970 will most likely have to drop to $250-270 to stay competitive and the 980 will most likely rest in the $400-450 bracket in counter to both the 980 Ti and the 300 equivalent )

I'm still running a 6770, and it's actually holding up OK, but I've thought about upgrading from time to time. Any advice on when I should bite and what might be the best performance/$? I don't want to spend more than $150 or so.
 
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